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Posted: 14 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: cute2stay


Good point! Ishaan toh didn't even come up with the IDEA of taking Suhana out...:S 😆 Seriously WHAT is his role exactly?? And o mann that 'bragging' or whatever he was doing...uhh I'd rather not comment on that....:S

He's such a spectator these days, that's SO totally the right word! He's kind of just fading out into the background amongst all the family members. :S Which is weird because he's kind of the most important person in Suhana's life!

Seriously, how are we supposed to be convinced that these two are a 'couple' and Suhana will fall in love when they can't even TALK about something like this to each other?? I just feel like, if they keep putting Ishaan in the backseat like this, then whenever Suhana DOES fall in love, it just won't be convincing. And since the show is heading that way, I feel like we need to see even MORE such moments between IS you know? It seems like earlier on they've had moments where Suhana is closer to falling in love than now. Seems like they're heading farther away from falling in love instead of the other way round...:S I don't know...it's weird.

And I so know what you mean about Suhana and the rest of the family members too. I have no complaints about that. The way they've shown her relationship with everyone else has been awesome! But why not the same treatment with Ishaan?? :S Is he not a part of her life for God's sakes?!?!

And it just bugs me completely ki how significant this was!! Suhana was FINALLY admitting that she's always living in her world and all!! How can you not build up on that!! Ishaan DEF. needed to be a part of this!! It just seems way too significant to waste! I don't think I can accept that at all!

About Jai's acting- agreed! I seriously feel like punching him in the face or something when he makes those RIDICULOUS se expressions sometimes! And sometimes the way he's looking at Suhana and making those "cute" type expressions...ughh *shudders*...really puts me off!! Makes me CONVINCED that he's such a champu!

Earlier on, Ishaan used to hold his own amongst all the characters. Remember when he used to be all, "main aissa hi hoon", "don't try to change me" and all? Where did that confidence go?

More than anything, I just miss the way he used to GET Suhana! He could make her cry and make her laugh at once! We could see how these two would work out! Right now I'm just not convinced!

I just don't get HOW Suhana can possibly fall in love with this guy you know?? :S 😆


@ Bold Maroon

I don't see that scene this way... Its true that Badima told Ishaan to take her out for dinner, but they never showed what Ishaan@ thought. I think that Ishaan also must have thought something to cheer up Suhana, may be same "dinner" thing. The talk between Badima and Ishaan was just for us to know that Ishaan is gonna take her out. But if they must have shown that scene in such a way where Ishaan says Badima about dinner plan, then it should have given more impact. So i really don't think that shows some character shade of Ishaan there.

@ Bold Blue

This we all know...and its true that he should be given more importance in her life... but that is the difference between Suhana and other ideal Bahus... She still couldn't recognize Ishaan's value or need in her life... She is staying there just because she loves the whole Kashyap, not because she has some special love for Ishaan. She don't wanna miss her mothers there, her bhabhis, bhayyas, meethi... so it is that family which is bonding Suhana and Ishaan now as per Suhana's view. So for her, now important is that "family" , not "Ishaan". So i think we have to wait a bit more to bring Ishaan's importance over "Kashyap family".

@Bold Pink

I don't think you fall in love with a person , only if you talk yaar... from my POV, a person can make you fall in love with his character, caring attitude, open mentality , his body language, so many things.... so i feel hiding a bitter truth which won't bring any happiness for the family, won't make her or him falling in love for each other. even though Ishaan is sitting in back seat, i must say he is a good instructor for Suhana for her "life" driving test....😉

@Bold Red

Today there was a statement made by Suhana. When Ishaan asked about hotel selection, She said these all are worthless. This simple statement says Suhana's realization about real life and realities. I feel that statement said what she feels about life now. She always think about others. She is so caring about her family and Ishaan. She brought his scooter back because she knows how much Ishaan was attached to that scooter ... So yes, Suhana used to stay in her world, but not now... Its my POV ...

Oh man... if i write more, you will kill me...🤣 so am stopping... 😊 Jai Hind ...
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Posted: 14 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: nureat01


Eggjactly, Eggjactly....*nods vehmently*....I mean if we go back and watch earlier IS scenes now, we can see the difference....at this point their relationship is supposed to be moving FURTHER ahead....instead they seem to have stepped back or basically Suhana's brain has gone into stagnant mode and Ishaan is also stuck in the rut of doing his standard 2-4 "cute" expressions.
Tooooo true yaar! I know, and FINALLY Suhana's brain showed some progression...but what happened? Ishaan was still doing his "cute" expressions! O God, the VISUAL of those "cute" expressions of his!! *shudders* 😆😆

Aaj when Suhana needed to pour her heart and soul out to someone, toh apne Ishaanjee kya kar rahe the? You guessed it...wahi do teen "cute" expressions of his! Heyyy bhagwaan! 😆

LMAOOOOOOOOOO🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I TOTALLY understand your feelings on this matter....those expressions are QUITE cringe-inducing especially when they are out of place like they were today.
OMG read Minu's description above of those "cute" expressions!! I DIED reading that! 🤣 🤣 It was SOOO perfect!! 🤣 Yeah PLEASE no more of those! 😆

That confidence comes and goes yaar😆.....see it was a bit there in the jail scene we all last liked....since then the dude's back in major champu mode with his scooter scenes and all....uske baad kuch dhang ka kiya toh hai nahin usne....other than today's 'cheering up attempt'😆😆 O ya true. I got carried away there with my ranting. 😆 Bahut khundak aa rahi thi us time pe Ishaan ke upar mujhe! 😆 But yeah true, he does have show that confidence on and off at times.

But yeah I agree he just needs to be more consistent! Kabhi he's bhondu, kabhi he let's us HOPE for a minute that he's the Ishaan we know as a character, kabhi he just acts plain RETARDED like kissing and hugging his scooter and what not ..."cute" expressions toh hain he...and most of the time toh he's just in the background being useless. 😆 Toh seriously, what are we supposed to make out of this? His character needs some major consistency now! Esp. if they're focusing on the IS love shove now!

That's it in a nutshell....I'm starting to get more and more skeptical about the credibility of these two as a couple....and no, a random third chick showing up to make Suhana all jealous is not going to magically convince me overnight either.....Ishaan is being reduced to a joker champu and his relationship with Suhana is NOT being given the required depth it NEEDS to at this point.....
Exactly. Word to this. Amen. 😆

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Posted: 14 years ago
#33
ok iam chipping in one point and then iam saying the last sentence as that of febs...😉

we all know ishaan loves suhana...bt suhana has made it very clear that ishaan is not the kind of person that she wanted in her life...all that handsome,rich wala dialogue....

so i dont want ishaan to prove himself he is a good man or ideal husband....suhana should see it herself..ishaan should be what he is...he should not try to impress suhana...

and i also add that ishaan should think abt their married life too...but when suhana is not interested in it..i do not want ishaan to try hard and make it one sided or something...

he does act bhondu types...bt for their relationship to grow..suhana has to see it herself and not ishaan to prove his worth...

thats it..and jai hind😉(nice one febs...sry iam copying...😉)


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Posted: 14 years ago
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True that Ishaan took her out on BM's word...but he did make the effort to find out her favorite restaurant and take her out to cheer her up...he even tried complimenting her about the smile, I found Ishaan okay yesterday, it was alteast far better than the jumpy weird Ishaan who hugs and kisses his scooter 🤢....yes I agree he could have gotten to the depth of the issue, but it wasn't all that bad, I found the restaurant scene enjoyable 😛

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Posted: 14 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: cute2stay


I'm sorry but I don't agree.

First of all, your whole point in red is flawed in my opinion. I think the main thing about this show that I love the most is the fact that the family solves their problems TOGETHER!

And a great example of this we have just seen with the RB and Deepak track. Have we not just witnessed how SHARING truths, letting people INTO your lives can make you closer? Doesn't it make your love GROW for that person? That's what I believe in and my belief has only been strengthened by this show all along.

So why can't the same thing be applied to IS? I so don't agree that Kashyap family will be 'dead' if the truth is revealed to everyone. They will actually be able to UNDERSTAND RB better! They will be able to SHARE her pain! And the more you share you sorrows in my opinion, the lesser they get. What's the point of a FAMILY if you're going to keep secrets like that to yourself?

And same goes for IS too. The more Suhana will let Ishaan IN, the closer they will get. Ishaan should've in my opinion atleast ATTEMPTED to figure out what exactly was bugging Suhana so much. How can you just cheer up someone pointlessly without even KNOWING what the problem is :S What kind of a 'solution' to a problem is that? :S

@ blue: How exactly was Ishaan "directing [Suhana] to the right path" in this scene? How was he supporting her? It's like he didn't even CARE what her ACTUAL problem was! It was like ok bhai, chalo let's just cheer her up kaam khatam? :S I mean jeez, what if I don't WANT to be cheered up dude? What if I want to TALK about what I've just gone through with someone? What if I need to pour out my heart and soul to someone?? Shouldn't my HUSBAND be there for me in that case?

Cheering up toh bahut door ki baat hai bhai...pehle PROBLEM toh sun lo!


No need to be sorry yaar...its all different way of looking at life...only POVs na.... 😊

I didn't talk about today's scene dear...i just talked about as total where Ishaan's supporting nature. I have a bad habit,if am worried about something and if somebody ask me what happened i won't say them at that very moment, may be later...but not that moment. I will get angry on them. So what my friends used to do, they will cheer up me first and later they will ask me what was the reason behind my worry. Since I have this nature, may be i could digest what Ishaan did today. We should behave knowing the nature of your friend na. What I thought was as Ishaan know that Suhana is upset and / or may be angry on what happened, let it cool down and then will ask. So that looked ok for me. Ishaan asked her too, but she didn't reply.

Regarding sharing with family, yes it is right that your burden will get lower if you share your problems to your family. But I believe that there should be a limit or level of secrecy. Nobody knew RB's secret till now. But Suhana came to know this because she was in hospital. I really don't think sharing RB's secret with a person like Ishika will be appreciated. Anyway it was a secret, and Badima want that to be a secret. I am thinking this way. So I really don't mind if Suhana keeps that secret as secret. Because for me, letting everyone know that RB was raped and Deepak is that guy's son and all looks really sad, because at end Deepak has to stay in between all of them carrying this burden na. So I think its better to keep as a secret.

OMG! These people are shouting at me ...got to go... it was nice to talk with you dear... Please dont take anything at heart ok... It was just my POV.... sorry if something hurt you...😊 Take care...
Edited by crysind - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#36
Pallavi, he did try asking her once, but she wasn't responding.....it wouldn't have been a good idea to have pushed her into telling him, yes it did seeme like she wanted to tell him something in the terrace scene, where she goes "how can anyone do this?" but she never expanded on the statement anymore, and Ishaan didn't probe furthur but went straight to getting her forget the issue. From what I see, he has failed to see through her sorrow and assumed that she was merely upset with Deepak attempting suicide, I find it a fair enough justification for Ishaan to have overlooked the issue. Although, I don't deny it would have added to the groW*H in their relationship had she shared it with him.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Oh, very intense debate going on, I missed it, everybody has exprressed there opinion which reflects what I am thinking as well, my point is that Ishaan can be very sensinble in one scene but then the next time he is completely like a dumbo, how come? he missed the bus again yesterday, he should have talk to Suhana on the terrace or in the room, should have wiped her tears and even without knowing the truth should have siad that, this is life and you have to come out of it even stronger and learn to respect life and thank God about your own good fortune. But then what do we know, we are not the writter or director may be they have got something better in there PITARA!!! but I agree strongly that Jay is very good on times but other times he over dose it, and his dialect is not 100% as well , not like a Dhelites, Inder, Dada, Dadi , Saadia Alok are really good,Elish and Ishaan completely miss that bit. Thats the basic rule of acting, you have to do the accent of the role you are playing.
Edited by venture - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#38
hmmm maybe i just looked at it as a scene where ishaan was trying to cheer up suhana.. that's why I liked it! nothing great or something..but yeah i liked it... somehow it worked for me...

but i do agree...jay needs to bring in some variations in his acting ...its getting repetitive...
and the dynamic between IS needs to change soon!
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Posted: 14 years ago
#39
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I think the fault is with the adaptation from the original series ...cause they havent built up their relationship like they shud have and as was in the original ...so now anything between them will be sudden and not gradual ....and also i think suhaana's char here is a little too OTT so much so that how Ishaan 's char was suppose to unfold hasnt been able to take place or has been eclipsed by her char ...I loved Ishaan's char in the original ...he was such a naughty fun yet sensible chap ....he mid way had started to have an upper hand when it came to his relationship with Lolita...but they just forgot this aspect which was the beauty of the show .......however soon i think Suhaana will realise that maybe she isnt being fair to Ishaan .....especially that he too has expectations from his married life .........dont know if it has been showed already ...dont think so ......The beauty of the couple that came across in the original had been lost here


Sorry Aman for the comparison ...cudnt do without it ...Apologies

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Posted: 14 years ago
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@rdfan, I was waiting for your comments, bang on, not going to say anything else. Probably because we love Suhana so so much that the CV changed her role slightly to get her more in the picture, and Ishaan ,s character has some what being compromised, may be I am not sure though.

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