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Posted: 12 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: IdiotViewer

Don't you love it when issues get resolved out of the blue? I know I do, means mera kaam khatam 😆


Lemme go watch the epi, then read CB by the level of discussions seems like it was a good one 😳

Wed Epi: A few thoughts...

Saras as Mr. Fixit-It... Is just digging himself in deeper and deeper. It was okay to give Kumud ideas and support, but the BD family... A big No. All his instances of 'helping hand' that the Dhan's are taking so gratefully now is going to stand in the witness box one day and testify to his 'deceit and duplicity' of them. You can see that not only Mr. BD, but Mrs and Alak too, have started to imagine golden halo's upon Saras' head which is wrong. The man is an angel, but a fallen one, and he is not on the path to redemption, the path he is in, is going to earn him damnation and condemnation. The way they 'impose' status of 'son' on him, and the way he 'invokes' the same to 'manipulate' them... You can see BD and SD visibly melt. That is wrong

Saras may mean 'good' but very soon we are going to witness the destruction of his 'good intentions'. I realise that Mr. SC is on a countdown, but he cannot afford to act in haste and be transparent, when his very 'standing' in that house embodies opaqueness...





Your write up has ability to break weak 'resolves'.😡 ...A brief react- was aghast at orange foolery on him. Did he pack up such stuff from Dubai? or a 'rent a dress'?🤢 But apart from this, who would 'think up' a 'Dawaat' to 'show' solidarity in a family?😲😕 And when by all 'logic' (other than Cv's convoluted insistence to thrust it 'working'), it would be a straight disaster in current frame of the Mr. P's rampaging rebellions. In fact, despite Cv's threadbare script, it did manage giving up undercurrents to the target 'inspector'! Exactly opposite of Cv's (mr. meddler's) stated mission! Ridiculous.🤢
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Posted: 12 years ago
#62
Hi guys! 😳

just dropping by to say that I updated on page 8 😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: smrth


Your write up has ability to break weak 'resolves'.😡 ...A brief react- was aghast at orange foolery on him. Did he pack up such stuff from Dubai? or a 'rent a dress'?🤢 But apart from this, who would 'think up' a 'Dawaat' to 'show' solidarity in a family?😲😕 And when by all 'logic' (other than Cv's convoluted insistence to thrust it 'working'), it would be a straight disaster in current frame of the Mr. P's rampaging rebellions. In fact, despite Cv's threadbare script, it did manage giving up undercurrents to the target 'inspector'! Exactly opposite of Cv's (mr. meddler's) stated mission! Ridiculous.🤢


Back-handed compliment eh, smrth Bhai? 😭 😛

'orange foolery'... Reminded me of HDDCS and for 'other reasons' ended up boiling my blood too 🤢 Was expecting 'Dholi Taro' to justify such, but got cheated 😉

Edit: I think 'P' was not even considered. Kusum and 'image' seemed bigger priority there and then. Witness, entire family shined and standing at attention. Saras - choir master. Logic wise, not applicable 😕
Edited by IdiotViewer - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#64
Today's Epi... Fantastic CB once again, Arshi ji... Beautiful and poignant. Loved the associations you made 👏

Starts off with a 'distracted' Kusum being reminded of her mission by Dukh baa... But the inability to 'connect' thereafter suggests that Kusum may very well be left to her own devices mostly, to investigate. If she continues taking Kumud's assurances to heart, then right there is a salsa salad of all hope and faith for the Desai's. If Kumud gets successfully 'distracted', the 'agency' she carries will ensure that they get somewhat placated too.

Kumud... How very soon Pramad has become a pet project for you? 😛 You stumble and he 'rights' you... His 'support' is conditional. Therein lies the difference. Only because if something happened to you who will tell him about Saraswatichandra? P is more interested in your lover, than in you. Galat faimi mein matt rehna, Sundari ji 😎 Also, Pramad's aside, recalls the life-attempts he has tried to make on K, and perhaps highlights his awareness that he may get exposed if he continues such, esp with K's bodyguard in attendance, so he is trying less 'crude' ways now. It also gives K a false sense of superiority over the very one she should be extremely wary of (Kalika) and satisfaction that she still has it ('fixing men with mommy/daddy issues). This aspect of her character is going to majorly aid in Kumud's downfall.

Kalika... Strikes. In the throes of jealousy. She uses the jigsaw piece just made available to her. Intercut with the "Dholna song sequence"... Interesting use of lyrics... Made much sense in the larger fabric of episode. Firstly, the four people concerned it kept flashing to... Saras and Kumud are set on binding and fortifying 'threads'... Kalika needs but a 'thread' to unravel all...and Pramad, recall the wedding night cliff sequence... "Pramad hai naam mera, mujhe koi bhi bandh nahi sakta"... He will not be binded and Kalika will be there every step of the way, to cut and throw, burn even, all attempts at 'bind"... Significant mention: Kalika, finds Kamarbandh, and wears it. Something 'pure' instantly, descecrated. It stood for Kumud and what her eventual fate will be at Kalika's hands. She will be defamed. As an unscrupulous woman. If not now, than later. What will happen to her 'mission' then?

Saras - Kusum confrontation:

Just as the song ends, the two are face-to-face. Looked up entire song, read lyrics too. In its entirety there is a bit that talks of 'naya janam'... I read the song as having to do with Saras. His new identity. The four shown constantly were four integral corners/catalysts of action, but the burning topic of the day was Navin, who is he, he will look good with you etc etc... The lyrics, in my opinion, suit S to the T. He is there as healer, to pacify wounds, and the other stanza with the naya janam bit, ironic as it hghlights the 'shock' Kusum will feel to see Navin's true face. A face that will only have to register itself in her gaze, to be entirely revealed. I did not see anything romantic in the way the song was used, instead it was employed to usher impending confrontation, but maybe that's just me 😳

Alak again comes at the opportune time, to register both reactions. Still innocent matchmaking? 😕 Introduced as 'Navinchandra', Saras' naya janam is complete. Btw, the way the whole sequence got prolonged, even a tubelight would have gone off in the most thickest of heads 😆 Loved Kusum's barbs to Saras. Better than Dukh baa's aarti utaaring of P, in my opinion. Loved the way Kusum sized up Kalika in two seconds flat... But watch out Kusum, you have just entered Kalika's hit-list too, what if she now finds you surrepitiously coming out of 'Navin ji's" room 😈 Special note: Kalika has become very observant these last couple of epi's... She misses nothing and does not fail to make associations being scorned will do that to you, I guess. Remember the 'extents' Kumud went to? Well, Kalika's will go to extremes, destructive ones at that, to keep what/is was hers, as hers. And teach 'usurpers' a thorough lesson too in the process.

And again Saras gets put on a pedestal by BD... Honestly, this "son" aspect is no longer a marker but has become an integral pushing point of each epi. Thereby highlighting how pervasive the deception is and how 'magnificient' the fall will be, for all involved. You could also see Pramad as being positioned in the middle of BD and Saras, but not as part of the 'clan'... Saras has already 'usurped' but then P 'inserts' himself again. That, and how Kalika 'inserts' herself and takes the opportune time to 'out' the kamarbandh in front of all. So what if the ownership was claimed by Kusum, she did so once before too, without success. And this time, the pure marker has been 'sullied'. Also, even though Kalika's intent got thwarted... Seeds have been sowed, for the 'reveal' in the future. Two got revealed, the third intervened and saved. All three have been binded in blood now. Collusion complete. To 'decieve' Loved GR's expression and control when Pramad confronts. Brilliant 👏 BD even refuses to look at P. Kumud is left 'crestfallen'... Mission started stellar, has disintegrated. How long before, in her reforming zeal, that she realises Navin ji is detrimental to her 'cause' and banishes him? That as long as you function as 'son' Pramad will remain lesser. Because it is the bitter truth, if rift between BD & P has to heal, Pramad has to 'accept' Navin, or else BD will continue to shun.

Saras - Kusum convo... Deja-vu as she throws identifier at him with same contempt that Kumud once did. She condemns, spells out dire consequences, and speaks sense. "Leave". But is it too late? It is. There has been first instance of 'collusion'... Even Kusum has been mired into the deceit now. An equal party... Pramad - Kumud convo... Birth and Death. Intercut got highlighted. What was up with Kumud's expressions, and where was Jennifer Winget's stellar voice modulations? Her lines sounded so flat. No wonder Pramad looked bored out of his mind, as she went on and on about Saraswati. Guess she will get to the 'Chandra' in the next episode 😆 Till then, Adios! 😉

Edited by IdiotViewer - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#65
Ivy.
Lovely dissertation...late aye doroost aye!!...
Your post got my hopes up...
And Yet...
...methinks its all ulta now...I have stopped looking for subtlety from a narrative perspective...just subtlety from a TRP perspective...
1) Feel Prammy is going to be rehabilitated big time...the dholna and naya janam was all about him and her...
2) He may get rehabilitated and die (how sick we all are ...with murder on our minds! 😃) or he may get rehabilitated and live...and maybe go all Ajay Devgan on Kumud...
Why?
3) The kusum marker ...in the story she comes in at the end when there's no Prammy and Samud wants to come together but social taboos rear their head...
4) The kumud marker...she is in no mood to marry saras even on the rebound!... at this stage she will only blame him more...so will kusum...
5) At this stage...if Prammy had to blow his top now...how will kusum's presence now help except to deflect blame on saras by agreeing to marry him?...there are no other social tabboos...then we are at the end...so why was the extension for the show needed?
Also with kumud's paced disclosure ...not the insinuation - laded disclosure coming from the maid to pramad...will he blow his top to the same extent at kumud? ...maybe at saras...
6) Both of their vows!! The Lady Sarasawati will not allow a vow on her name go unfulfilled.
Methinks it will follow 1 in the short-term...that's a sure TRP booster...then 2 (Ajay Devgan) than 2 (die)...
I just hope against hope I have misjudged this...
Fingers crossed!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hgg bhai, I don't have much knowledge of Indian TRP's (baby in diapers, remember 😳 ) so my perspective is definitely narrative based & episode to episode. But between both these approaches lies the larger picture, and somehow it might get illuminated as well =)

However, your points are "very massy" full of drama, sacrifice etc that general segment may lap up. You also think far... I commend you for that. I only have tbe courage to face one epi at a time...

Regarding Kumud's disclosure, do you mean you think she will reveal all? Even 'out' Navin as Saras? I got a bit confused as to your intent here?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: IdiotViewer

Hgg bhai, I don't have much knowledge of Indian TRP's (baby in diapers, remember 😳 ) so my perspective is definitely narrative based & episode to episode. But between both these approaches lies the larger picture, and somehow it might get illuminated as well =)

However, your points are "very massy" full of drama, sacrifice etc that general segment may lap up. You also think far... I commend you for that. I only have tbe courage to face one epi at a time...

Regarding Kumud's disclosure, do you mean you think she will reveal all? Even 'out' Navin as Saras? I got a bit confused as to your intent here?

Ivy-
Maybe not the full disclosure that Naveen is here...but I guess everything else (except the PMS maybe)...
Saras = Naveen will be by kalika I think...she will connect the dots...
What I meant was that if by the 98% disclosure if Prammy is going hmmm...and on the way to listening to her...when kalika discloses she will do so not knowing kumud has had the convo with him.
..At that stage will Prammy be angrier on kumud or saras?...The relation between 'a' saras somewhere & kumud is now known to him...
...So will all his latent hatred on saras usurping his son relationship explode all the more exclusively on saras?
I guess today's epi will show us a marker..
..If he's all ok types ...some verbal taunts...some tears ...then expect a reformed Prammy path...maybe with a HDDCS hangover...
..If he explodes we have the novel track alignment...and then we wait for the kalika detonator..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: happychappy



I hope so too, Kat. I think they just like to shock and shake us up... Like most of the pre-caps look shocking but fizzle out tamely...****keeping fingers crossed****

If they are after TRP's, unconventional twist is not going to work, and esp not "morally wrong" unconventional twist... after the PMS happened, I believe the ending has to be ***k---f--c---*** Samud.

Lets wait and watch One Day at a time...😊



Aah hope so but u know how these cvs always conveniently forget things. But it's too hard
To digest that someone whom u treated as a brother now u have to marry! I know no khoon ka rishta so technically it's not even wrong but yaar jazbaat bhi kuch jeez hai!

True abt precaps always being Phika. I hope kusum and sunny team up to bring the two together when maharani kusum realises that Pramad isn't the one for kumud.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#69
@Ivyji, thussi great ho tofa Kabul karo 😊 Loved your write up. Been feeling the same, BD's love for Navin is a tight noose hanger. Everytime he shows his love and calls Navin beta, my heart sinks. Saras has his blinders on seeing only Kumud but when the time comes he would never be able to justify what he is doing in BD's house. The trust which BD family are having on Saras is the biggest death hole for him from which he can never out untarnished.
And you are so right, the way Kumud stood beside Pramad opposite Kalika was the same way she had stood opposite Guman. History is repeating again. Guman's wrath towards Desai's was cornered on Kumud as she was the ladli in that house and Kalika's wrath is again on the ladli of this house too. One trumpet card and everything changed in Kumud's life and the same is bound to happen again and this time there would be nothing left to move forward unless a visit to the past is done.

@hotdogg, we know about your excellent long term visionaries but I really hope you are not right this time. I wouldn't have minded seeing any end to any show but not to SC. After all our discussions and the visions to the original I really hope we get to see only something which is related to the original, otherwise what was the use of naming it Saraswathichandra.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: IdiotViewer

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Kumud... How very soon Pramad has become a pet project for you? 😛 You stumble and he 'rights' you... His 'support' is conditional. Therein lies the difference. Only because if something happened to you who will tell him about Saraswatichandra? ...Also, Pramad's aside, recalls the life-attempts he has tried to make on K, and perhaps highlights his awareness that he may get exposed if he continues such, esp with K's bodyguard in attendance, so he is trying less 'crude' ways now...

... It also gives K a false sense of superiority over the very one she should be extremely wary of (Kalika) and satisfaction that she still has it ('fixing men with mommy/daddy issues). This aspect of her character is going to majorly aid in Kumud's downfall.

... ... Significant mention: Kalika, finds Kamarbandh, and wears it. Something 'pure' instantly, desecrated. It stood for Kumud and what her eventual fate will be at Kalika's hands. She will be defamed. As an unscrupulous woman. ...
...
... Kumud is left 'crestfallen'... Mission started stellar, has disintegrated. How long before, in her reforming zeal, that she realises Navin ji is detrimental to her 'cause' and banishes him? That as long as you function as 'son' Pramad will remain lesser. ...

... The lyrics, in my opinion, suit S to the T. He is there as healer, to pacify wounds, and the other stanza with the naya janam bit, ironic as it hghlights the 'shock' Kusum will feel to see Navin's true face. A face that will only have to register itself in her gaze, to be entirely revealed... I did not see anything romantic in the way the song was used, instead it was employed to usher impending confrontation, but maybe that's just me 😳


As usual, Ivy, your "dissertation" was very illuminating... Thanks...😊

@ Pink, Especially loved the inferences you extract about what awaits Kumud. The parallel nature of Kalika and Gumaan's roles is striking, (now that you mention it...😉) even their appearance (variations on a theme, though more s**tty for Kalika and more classy for Gumaan) Considering that the Gumaan role was an elaboration made especially for this TV version of SC, that is surely interesting. The same features of Kumud's character will lead to her betrayal (engineered by Kalika/Gumaan) at the hands of Saras twice over!

@Blue, You are real saviour Ivy, I was getting quite worried about Hgg's romantic interpretation of the Dholna song... Now that I've seen your take, I know which one to pack for my happy bubble...😆




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