Crisp Bytes SC - 31st May - Page 5

Originally posted by: shana0127

Kumud today may not see it

But she has wronged Saras

She gave herself to him in love

Of her own free will

Yet now she has shut him out

And has demeaned their love

He may have already forgiven her

But she will always carry this bojh on her aatma

the aforesaid words of urs r my thoughts too...frankly i feel kumud is suddenly demeaning all that has been so pure and bondless love from saras ...she is actually demeaning the love they have for each other

Today my heart went out to you Saras dikra

Tumhain uski sazaa mil rahi hai, Jo gunah tha hi nahi

Kumud needs to belive in her love and saras

Originally posted by: Samsangeetha

Beautiful poem. So bojh, bojh, bojh, everywhere is bojh. Hum sab ko mann mein toh bojh hain. When it will be cleared? G(CV)OK.

Originally posted by: hunnybunch

Beautiful post!

Saras felt euphoric and wanted to shout to the world that he had found his paradise, but Kumud pushed him away so hard, out of guilt, declaring it was but a SIN! Awww, poor Saras! He is hurt badly, he is going to walk all alone... Until she comes to him... Hoping she would come soon

Originally posted by: happychappy

Arshi, thank you for being there always

To express what we Feel

But cannot Say

Nearly as well as You do...

I have been struggling with the sudden changes in Kumud, and how she was hurting the same person she was so eager to love. Hope there's a resolution soon that doesnt cause more heartbreak. (first-aid box, where are you hiding?)

You make it all part of a bigger theme, so we can carry on watching... I have been reduced to (metaphorically) watching from between my fingers when Saras is on screen because it's so difficult to watch him deal with the pain.

Originally posted by: kaadal

Arshi, lovely post dear. It is indeed an episode where hearts are burdened and healing needed in every way.

Dughbaa finally has confirmation that Kumari is upto something. Not sure questioning her was a good thing but as a straight forward mother she did it. When a daughter answers back and starts a blame game, a mother needs to understand that things are not right. I think Dughbaa understood it and wants to talk to VC.

LN finally found penance for his past and asked Dughbaa to forgive him as well. The father - son conversation was good. LN trusts Saras in everything and wants him not to repeat any of his mistakes. I felt sad seeing Saras. The pressure on him is more now, he needs to fulfill his duties to a father, he needs to fulfill his duties to his in-laws and stand by Kumud as well, but is hurt now that Kumud is not with him. He had asked her yesterday whether she would stand by him always and today he is alone. There was that sadness in his face when his dad said he would leave only after fixing the marriage dates. The same would have made him so happy yesterday but today things were different.

Guniyal-Kumud scene was wonderful. A mother knows everything is not right by seeing her daugher's face. She feels like the earth has moved under her feet hearing the truth but seeing her daughter like this how can she blame her. Guniyal indeed is a strong mother who understood when her daughter said she didn't know how it happened. She has again become the mother for Kumud rather than the wife for VC. Again mother and daughter are going to hide something from VC which they think no one knows but sadly as usual Guman knows, Will VC be able to forgive both of them this time ? I don't think so. Will Saras be able to do something to unite them this time ? Again I don't think so, this is not a letter they have hidden, it is much much more than that.

I am not getting positive vibes seeing the precap as well. @hotdogg and Samarth, hope both your predictions come true as currently I don't feel any happiness seeing today's episode.

Originally posted by: vaishali-AR

@ bold- great point that ! and more impressive is the fact that its coming from a guy.. To be able to understand the female's perspective so well.. all I can say is .. *respect* I wasn't able to figure out what could possibly bring Kumud out of this depression and guilt.. I wasn't sure if she'l allow Saras to heal her.. but you are right.. he has to be as persistent as she was.. Instead of blaming himself for wronging her, he has to look at it from her point of view... do whatever it takes to calm her and reassure her.. he has to be by her side..no definitely relapse and self - exile is not the solution.. and going by the spoilers, I think he will not disappoint us.. maybe this is what they wanted to achieve through this track.. balancing out .. first it was Kumud helping Saras and now it will be role reversal.. aaah thanks smrth.. I am all smiles now..😊

@vaishali @smrth..
thanks...yes...that's the only way out ...hope they follow this track...
👏

I did say I would not discuss Thursday's episode anymore😳. This came to mind while watching today's episode. The other day, out of the blue, Kumud remembers his moms words (which makes it even worse IMHO) – 'Men have the curse of lust and women have the boon of dignity', read the subtitles. She then says she should have stayed in her maryada. Wouldn't it cross Saras' mind that Kumud might be thinking of him as or blaming him indirectly of being lustful as a male, in his frame of mind? We are aware that she did not blame him, she blames herself. But her reaction and pushing him away might further reinforce that feeling in Saras?

More kewshuns –

- were they at the factory all night?

- Didn't anybody notice they were gone?

- When did they return home?

- Did they have any conversation after the deed, on their way home perhaps?

- At what point did her guilt trip start?

- Why am I still talking about this? 😕

Originally posted by: Infofan

I did say I would not discuss Thursday's episode anymore😳. This came to mind while watching today's episode. The other day, out of the blue, Kumud remembers his moms words (which makes it even worse IMHO) ' 'Men have the curse of lust and women have the boon of dignity', read the subtitles. She then says she should have stayed in her maryada. Wouldn't it cross Saras' mind that Kumud might be thinking of him as or blaming him indirectly of being lustful as a male, in his frame of mind? We are aware that she did not blame him, she blames herself. But her reaction and pushing him away might further reinforce that feeling in Saras?

More kewshuns '

- were they at the factory all night?

- Didn't anybody notice they were gone?

- When did they return home?

- Did they have any conversation after the deed, on their way home perhaps?

- At what point did her guilt trip start?

- Why am I still talking about this? 😕

agree...

the problem I see is in the show screenplay where SLB has creative control...

...SLB is used to making movies in which a lot of ideas need to be compressed and expressed in 3 hours...this results in not having to deal with exploring depth or drawing out the length for extended screen time...fit smaller story elements together (add 4 songs, 1 comedy track, 1 villain, 1 vamp, old parents, 2 lovers, one formula)...and a huge dependency on using the visual medium to deliver messages... phir...3 hours mein show khatam paisa hajam...

when applied to a complex story ...this inexperience is showing...add to this the trp revisions... and this mashup.. ..

I am now wondering whether the subtelty we fans like is intentional or plain inexperience / lack of understanding of the medium?

really disappointed with the totally fractured presentation from the proposal to the PMS scene itself and its aftermath...

why are they are trying to scrunch up too many ideas / concepts / emotions into 5 minute timeslots without working on the characterisations?...

For e.g.
1) saras and kumud's understanding of love --> so hurried (radha / dandiya).
- If this was explored more deeply, with more scenes with dialogues / exchanges between kumud and saras we would have been better able to appreciate kumud's consent for PMS and divergent reaction after PMS --> did not happen.
Though in the the novel the plot hinges on letter exchanges through which both fall in love without seeing each other --> why could not some elements of the letter contents have been used to create scenes which clarified both's different perspective on love?

2) saras public declaration --> so hurried (kumud gets taunted, saras decides to announce)
- This proposal had to declare saras love for kumud, the journey he has travelled, how important kumud is to him. At least one epi / half epi with better dialogues would have gone far in clearing where saras was coming from and why he drove the move towardsPMS --> Not even a half episode on the declaration, its all over in 5-8 minutes.

3) Add all the noise of the wedding, Saras rai, kumari, guman antics --> Why mix it with the story pivot? Could it not have been pushed later?

4) PMS & aftermath --> half baked ...entirely dependent on visuals for pre / act itself...no post act.
- why did they have to jump straight to the aftermath hysterics--> we dont even get to know what really happened till kumud is shown straight - away hysterical and full of grief / remorse...where is the step (could be a simple scene of kumud thinking by herself) which shows her coming to realise the enormity of the step she has taken and how it goes against her morality...which gets converted into grief and remorse
- without this critical step & missing #1, most viewers and even fans of the forum cannot relate to the total reversing of her character...this creates so much confusion and character inconsistency among viewers / fans who have built up an image of the leads in their minds..

5) add the frantic desire / attempt to move the story to the next act...and you will see getting added more 5 minute story elements...its like a sand pile...just adding more and more sand to the pile...sooner rather than later... without a proper foundation its going to collapse on itself.

...its already resulted in a plain butchering of the characters the leads (specially jennifer since she's in the dock now for totally portraying a 'different' version) have tried so hard to build and portray...

...request to CVs would be to please give adequate screen time and dialogues / scenes to build the characters perspective and story...

😳

^^^

But despite all these brouhaha, I want to reiterate once again; PMS works a charm...Team Nandy is winning. The PMS solves one nagging dread over.😊...remember Nandy, you have posted once, " looking at Saras- Kusum in one frame is 'nauseating' ( because of our foreknowledge) . I had joined your team that very day- exact my thought...well, today we didn't mind first ever actual verbal scene between the two! In fact I watched without any annoyance and enjoyed last quip from Saras, " Excuse me." ( 'no Kusum', SLB's way of reinforcing?!)😃😃