Crisp Bytes SC - 15th May 13 - Page 5

Originally posted by: smrth

I wonder, which guest would have manner to throw such a rude 'defiance' to twice his age host? (And to that host who had decency to keep him honoured as his guest, despite a 'reasonless' rejection to his daughter- after an unsolicited proposal)?

I wonder, which superior 'rejector now suitor' has the 'right' to shout out at a girl, in front of her own parents, in presence of her entire family and on the grounds of her own home?!

Cvs may well have already written heart wrenching, sincere apologies, powerfully enacted for future...just that 'disrespect' story gets overwritten at every turn.

On the other side? VC?! Is he for real?! There was remotely no such character in original. Had never liked this OTT adaption from the beginning. Not a patch on educated, deft and suave Viday Chatur- just as his name- of the original who was running kingdom of Ratnanagari as an able prime minister. Better they would have retained some essence of both parents, VC and Guniyal. So much for the original.

Samarth, Kaadal, Nandy

That's why it was not like Saras and the fight was forcibly written into the episode

a fight between LN and VC was needed

a fight between Samud was needed

for some secret reasons CVs just decided to jump into it today itself

The whole reaction of VC was so hyper and exaggerated, that yelling, pushing LN, accusing him of showing his superiority - that fight had a flimsy basis,

the shove was then used to pull saras into the fight

that was used to make saras and kumud fight

Lets not analyse characters here, because CVs just took a shortcut to fight

and did not think it thru

acc to me

VC- emotionally driven man .. In his life, he seems to have taken upon himself to sort everyone's problems, bear all the responsibility, be it his immediate family, relatives friends.. he is the one who will take care of everyone..selflessly .. If someone does it for him, he takes it personally..as some personal failure to fulfill his responsibility.. we saw how he flipped when Gun and Kumud hid the truth from him.. Today was no different ..the more hurt he is , the more angry he gets... Kumud knows that.. which is why she said '' Ye unki takleef bol rahi hai'' His actions may look OTT but I can understand where he comes from... I have seen self respected people like him..who despite of very humble resources , go out of the way to help people..and actually take offense when people try to repay them back.. he is loud, dramatic, completely over reacted today.. but his heart is at the right place.. LN knows that which is why he will be the one to make it up to him... *my prediction*

LN- calculated, intelligent businessman.. I wish he stuck to his instincts about VC instead of listening to that Nagin.. But Jayanti lal's case probably encouraged him to return the money to VC..

Saras- shouldn't have stepped in.. But his new found connection with his father was the reason now he can not hear a word against him from anyone.. Shouting at Kumud made it look more like a husband wife banter LOL

Kumud- Was more horrified than angry or hurt before Saras interfered.. From that point onwards it was a one on one battle of the two ego centric people.. Logic and the whole reason for the fight flew out of the window.. her anger was directed only and only at Saras..

Originally posted by: arshicritic

Samarth, Kaadal, Nandy

That's why it was not like Saras and the fight was forcibly written into the episode

a fight between LN and VC was needed

a fight between Samud was needed

for some secret reasons CVs just decided to jump into it today itself

The whole reaction of VC was so hyper and exaggerated, that yelling, pushing LN, accusing him of showing his superiority - that fight had a flimsy basis,

the shove was then used to pull saras into the fight

that was used to make saras and kumud fight

Lets not analyse characters here, because CVs just took a shortcut to fight

and did not think it thru

acc to me

^Vaish said it.

@ Kaadal,

Let me try to look at the haveli girvi thing

1. VC mortgages his home to help LN - OK

2. LN uses this money to start his business - OK

3. He makes a lot of money - 10, 000 crore acc to Guman - OK

4. VC will not take back the money as it was not a loan acc to him - OK

5. LN buys the haveli but does not tell VC - maybe OK - at this point VC should have been told

6. VC continues to pay mortgage, which goes back to LN -

Not OK - at this point VC should have been told

7. VC does not know he is again paying LN for his own house - Not Ok

8. LN uses this money to invest in a business in Kumud's name - Ok

9. LN feels bad that the business is not doing well - OK

10. LN is concerned that if this business sinks, VCs money is lost - Logic ki vaat No 1

11. Guman decides to run the business and turn it around and LN agrees - OK

12. Guman mortgages the haveli - it was in LNs name, how could she without his knowledge -

Logic ki vaat 2

13. the business shines and makes money overnight - Logic ki vaat but ok

14 the haveli of its own returns now - logic ki vaat 3 but chaolo - OK

15 more money also from the business in dubai is express delivered in rupees in ratnanagri

while they are walking in the village- logic ki vaat 4

16 So the haveli is back with LN, business of Kumud is doing well and LN decides to what?

17 Instead of handing the haveli papers back, hands over a bundle of cash - common sense ki

vaat

Thats why i feel CVs just wrote the fight in and did not think it thru, else why would the haveli papers and cash be express delivered to Guman and LN in the middle of the village while walking ? all the way from Dubai?

Logic ko to permanent vacaysun pe bhej diye SLB ji

@ Vaishali, Reemz, Kaadal, Nandy,

OK, when we sit down and rationlise it to ourselves

it makes sense

That VC is emotional

That LN was only doing what he thought was right

That Guman was playing them

That Saras is also impulsive and emotional and always acts first thinks later

That Kumud also reacts emotionally esp if its to do with her dad and Saras


My problems :

Not Like VC to turn all accusing and near abusive - he is a conflict resolver,

he has been carrying a family, friendships, his friendship with LN survived ditching Dugba

Refusing to take money firmly - VC like

flying off the handle and pushing - not VC like



LN - offer to return Haveli - common sense

Hand over a bundle of cash - stupid, not LN like


The start of the fight and the way it was brought into the script was flawed

That's why I have been saying not characters, its the script that was bad

and VC was made to over react without building a foundation for it

So CVs Cvs and Cvs to be blamed for today

@all,

Originally posted by: arshicritic

@ Kaadal,

Let me try to look at the haveli girvi thing

1. VC mortgages his home to help LN - OK

2. LN uses this money to start his business - OK

3. He makes a lot of money - 10, 000 crore acc to Guman - OK

4. VC will not take back the money as it was not a loan acc to him - OK

5. LN buys the haveli but does not tell VC - maybe OK - at this point VC should have been told

6. VC continues to pay mortgage, which goes back to LN -

Not OK - at this point VC should have been told

7. VC does not know he is again paying LN for his own house - Not Ok

8. LN uses this money to invest in a business in Kumud's name - Ok

9. LN feels bad that the business is not doing well - OK

10. LN is concerned that if this business sinks, VCs money is lost - Logic ki vaat No 1

11. Guman decides to run the business and turn it around and LN agrees - OK

12. Guman mortgages the haveli - it was in LNs name, how could she without his knowledge -

Logic ki vaat 2

13. the business shines and makes money overnight - Logic ki vaat but ok

14 the haveli of its own returns now - logic ki vaat 3 but chaolo - OK

15 more money also from the business in dubai is express delivered in rupees in ratnanagri

while they are walking in the village- logic ki vaat 4

16 So the haveli is back with LN, business of Kumud is doing well and LN decides to what?

17 Instead of handing the haveli papers back, hands over a bundle of cash - common sense ki

vaat

Thats why i feel CVs just wrote the fight in and did not think it thru, else why would the haveli papers and cash be express delivered to Guman and LN in the middle of the village while walking ? all the way from Dubai?

Logic ko to permanent vacaysun pe bhej diye SLB ji

Originally posted by: arshicritic

@ Vaishali, Reemz, Kaadal, Nandy,

OK, when we sit down and rationlise it to ourselves

it makes sense

That VC is emotional

That LN was only doing what he thought was right

That Guman was playing them

That Saras is also impulsive and emotional and always acts first thinks later

That Kumud also reacts emotionally esp if its to do with her dad and Saras


My problems :

Not Like VC to turn all accusing and near abusive - he is a conflict resolver,

he has been carrying a family, friendships, his friendship with LN survived ditching Dugba

Refusing to take money firmly - VC like

flying off the handle and pushing - not VC like



LN - offer to return Haveli - common sense

Hand over a bundle of cash - stupid, not LN like


The start of the fight and the way it was brought into the script was flawed

That's why I have been saying not characters, its the script that was bad

and VC was made to over react without building a foundation for it

So CVs Cvs and Cvs to be blamed for today

I wrote something about the fight sequence..

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3587849

I dont want to go into the logics of the mortgage ... not my forte LOL I am just talking about the sentiments behind the reactions..VC over reacted I agree. The kind of flamboyant character he is..I don' t expect him to be prim and proper in his actions like LN.. The flying off the handle reaction was from a seedha sadha village guy... Dost ne pese dikhaye.. Dil pe le liya usne ! its more on those lines.. LN was constantly rejecting Guman's suggestion of helping VC with money till the point he saw VC offer help to Jayanti Lal. Business man thinks more from head than heart.. Village guy thinks more from heart than head LOL He thought if Jayanti can accept help from a friend then why not Vidya.. he thought he will use that as an arguement if VC turns down his offer.. But he forgot VC is not Jayanti Lal.. that man was ready to host his daughter's marriage in his in-laws place.. VC will never do that..