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Posted: 15 years ago
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Here the deal with Ranvir- poor dialogue. I think Ranvir loves Ragini so much and he's so open minded, he'd let her do anything.

Alekh- poor dialogue + his history. Alekh knows that Sadhna took care of him for 2 years +. He did nothing for her basically (although she'd beg to differ) except cause her pain. He never gave her anything, he never took care of HER, he never acted responsible...of course he had no choice in this, and we know that whole story. After he got well...it was even worst. He started working..and couldn't give a penny of his earnings to his wife because he didn't grow a pair in time to defend her as she got kicked out of the house...then he had to watch as she worked near him and got treated like cow dung sometimes by Mallika...anyway, Alekh wants to give Sadhna some R&R...he wants to earn for her, provide for her, care for her and give her everything she needs...that's it basically.

However in a rush like always, the writers fudged this up big time. Oh and that embroidery thing they were doing in the promo...no offense, but they're better than that...so we can plane Anand for finding them that job I guess?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Yanks,I agree.Why that job?They could have been dance teachers or anything.The place didn't look better either!

Nice topic!Agree with almost everyone!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: chocolover89

@ pricey

I understand your point about Alekh and you're probably right about why he reacted the way he did, but I was still disappointed with his reaction. I think the scene was very poorly executed and the dialogues were just terrible. But don't you think it should be Sagini's choice how much they work and what they do? And not Alevir's. Seemed like Ranvir said you do a part-time job, and Alekh said make sure it's not hard. Personally, I found that to be very insulting. Alekh's reaction was more disappointing because he seemed more upset about teh idea of both working and Ranvir seemed ok with it. I think education might also explain the slight difference in reactions between Alevir also.
Sagini were disappointing to with their asking for permission to work also. This should be more of a discussion with your spouse rather than a permission issue. And it definately looked like had Alevir said no, they wouldn't have worked--which is just NOT right.



ABSOLUTELY!!! i too, DO NOT believe ranlekh should have ANY control over how much sagini can work, and/or IF they can work. discussing about it is fine, but ultimately, its SAGINI'S decision, NOT their's. yes, totally agree on that part. BUT you have to understand, its not like that with ranlekh, at least, that's what it seems. they're not the type of husbands who believe: men have the ultimate say over their women, they're their rulers, they're the bread-winners, and the women are just their for house work. its not like that with ranlekh. the reason why they reacted such way, once again, was out of LOVE and LOVE only IMO. in that case, its fine. HOWEVER, its not fine if they try to stop them out love, and i'm glad they didn't. they ultimately did let sagini do what they want, didn't they...? and as for it being a part-time job, well, sagini didn't seem to mind it, so why should ranlekh...?
its like what i said about my mom. i just don't want her to work, cause i can't bare to see my mom working, as i LOVEEEEEE her soooo much, so i understand where ranlekh are coming from. its not like i don't want my mom to work cause she's a woman. its cause i don't wanna see her in pain, physically, and i think that's what the case was with ranlekh.
but like i said, my problem lies with the girls asking for their permission, and them letting their husbands choose how much they can work. my mom is a housewife, and trust me when i say, my dad earns MORE THAN ENOUGH money for all of us. yet, my mom wanted to and still wants to work so she can relieve herself from her boredom. she just soesn't wanna stay around in the house all day, doing nothing, hence she wants to work. so during her first job, my dad too didn't want to see her work; cause a) she doesn't need to work and b) more importantly, cause he doesn't wanna see her go through all the incredible amount of physical and mental pressure that comes with working. those were his ONLY reasons for it, and it was NOT out of some stupid macho-pride. but in the end, my mom DISCUSSED with him, it wasn't like she ASKED for his permission like with sagini, and she got what she wanted (though she's not working anymore. she left that job as we left the country and she stayed in a vacation for 3 whole months, and her job wasn't unfortunately gonna wait for her)...
this is where my problem lies...why do any woman have to ASK for their husband's or ANYONE'S permission for that matter??? why would it be anyone else decision, but their own???
as for the dialogues and how it was portrayed...i thought that was done perfectly, JUST LIKE IN REAL LIFE. you have to remember, just cause the CTs were showing such things, it automatically doesn't mean they think its right. they show naveen as this evil, evil character, willing to kill his own cousins in the name of money, but that doesn't mean the CTs automatically think its RIGHT to kill your cousins for property. so its kind of the same concept here. just cause they showed sagini asking for ranlekh's permission, doesn't automatically mean that's what they believe all women should do, or even, they THEMSELVES do in their own lives. you have to remember that. and on top of that, what they showed today, its VERY REALISTIC, and this is how it plays out in reality as well. so i wasn't at all disappointed at what or how they portrayed it, at all...
Edited by pricey28 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: yanks28

Here the deal with Ranvir- poor dialogue. I think Ranvir loves Ragini so much and he's so open minded, he'd let her do anything.

Alekh- poor dialogue + his history. Alekh knows that Sadhna took care of him for 2 years +. He did nothing for her basically (although she'd beg to differ) except cause her pain. He never gave her anything, he never took care of HER, he never acted responsible...of course he had no choice in this, and we know that whole story. After he got well...it was even worst. He started working..and couldn't give a penny of his earnings to his wife because he didn't grow a pair in time to defend her as she got kicked out of the house...then he had to watch as she worked near him and got treated like cow dung sometimes by Mallika...anyway, Alekh wants to give Sadhna some R&R...he wants to earn for her, provide for her, care for her and give her everything she needs...that's it basically.

However in a rush like always, the writers fudged this up big time. Oh and that embroidery thing they were doing in the promo...no offense, but they're better than that...so we can plane Anand for finding them that job I guess?

It was just a bad scene with some very poor dialogues by all 4.
@ bold Anand has some ulterior motive with getting a job for Sagini--it was done to advance the track. But wouldn't Sagini have told him their qualifications?
And again, why do they need Anand to find a job for them? And I just can't get over the embroidery--why that specifically? Ragini should be a well-known name in the dance industry in the show. She can easily get a job teaching dance, whether it's in a school or just her own classes. Sadhna can teach-like she used to teach Gunni and Pratham. And she has work experience in a big company.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: pricey28



ABSOLUTELY!!! i too, DO NOT believe ranlekh should have ANY control over how much sagini can work, and/or IF they can work. discussing about it is fine, but ultimately, its SAGINI'S decision, NOT their's. yes, totally agree on that part. BUT you have to understand, its not like that with ranlekh, at least, that's what it seems. they're not the type of husbands who believe: men have the ultimate say over their women, they're their rulers, they're the bread-winners, and the women are just their for house work. its not like that with ranlekh. the reason why they reacted such way, once again, was out of LOVE and LOVE only IMO. in that case, its fine. HOWEVER, its not fine if they try to stop them out love, and i'm glad they didn't. they ultimately did let sagini do what they want, didn't they...? and as for it being a part-time job, well, sagini didn't seem to mind it, so why should ranlekh...?
its like what i said about my mom. i just don't want her to work, cause i can't bare to see my mom working, as i LOVEEEEEE her soooo much, so i understand where ranlekh are coming from. its not like i don't want my mom to work cause she's a woman. its cause i don't wanna see her in pain, physically, and i think that's what the case was with ranlekh.
but like i said, my problem lies with the girls asking for their permission, and them letting their husbands choose how much they can work. my mom is a housewife, and trust me when i say, my dad earns MORE THAN ENOUGH money for all of us. yet, my mom wanted to and still wants to work so she can relieve herself from her boredom. she just soesn't wanna stay around in the house all day, doing nothing, hence she wants to work. so during her first job, my dad too didn't want to see her work; cause a) she doesn't need to work and b) more importantly, cause he doesn't wanna see her go through all the incredible amount of physical and mental pressure that comes with working. those were his ONLY reasons for it, and it was NOT out of some stupid macho-pride. but in the end, my mom DISCUSSED with him, it wasn't like she ASKED for his permission like with sagini, and she got what she wanted (though she's not working anymore. she left that job as we left the country and she stayed in a vacation for 3 whole months, and her job wasn't unfortunately gonna wait for her)...
this is where my problem lies...why do any woman have to ASK for their husband's or ANYONE'S permission for that matter??? why would it be anyone else decision, but their own???
as for the dialogues and how it was portrayed...i thought that was done perfectly, JUST LIKE IN REAL LIFE. you have to remember, just cause the CTs were showing such things, it automatically doesn't mean they think its right. they show naveen as this evil, evil character, willing to kill his own cousins in the name of money, but that doesn't mean the CTs automatically think its RIGHT to kill your cousins for property. so its kind of the same concept here. just cause they showed sagini asking for ranlekh's permission, doesn't automatically mean that's what they believe all women should do, or even, they THEMSELVES do in their own lives. you have to remember that. and on top of that, what they showed today, its VERY REALISTIC, and this is how it plays out in reality as well. so i wasn't at all disappointed at what or how they portrayed it, at all...

I completely understand your point about their unhappiness being more out of love than ego. It's just that scene was portrayed very badly and I thought the dialogues of all 4 were terrible with Sagini asking for permission and then Ranvir/Alekh saying what they did, even if it was out of love. They could have explained that in a much better way rather than saying "part-time job" and "easy job" because at the end of the day it is solely Sagini's decision how much they want to work and what work they want to do. The CT needs to invest more time in dialogues--sometimes the dialogues are just terrible and can send out wrong messages. The scene needed to have been executed better as well--that's a direction problem. It wasn't a case of bad acting, but more bad script and direction.
I know that this might not be what the CT themselves believe, but being women, shouldn't they take care and portray Sadhna/Ragini in a better light, and in a more real way? They should have made this a discussion and not a permission issue like it was. What would Sagini have done had Alevir said no? And Why should they have to ask Alevir for permission? Sometimes its like women are progressing so much everywhere, and then you watch soaps.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: chocolover89

I completely understand your point about their unhappiness being more out of love than ego. It's just that scene was portrayed very badly and I thought the dialogues of all 4 were terrible with Sagini asking for permission and then Ranvir/Alekh saying what they did, even if it was out of love. They could have explained that in a much better way rather than saying "part-time job" and "easy job" because at the end of the day it is solely Sagini's decision how much they want to work and what work they want to do. The CT needs to invest more time in dialogues--sometimes the dialogues are just terrible and can send out wrong messages. The scene needed to have been executed better as well--that's a direction problem. It wasn't a case of bad acting, but more bad script and direction.

I know that this might not be what the CT themselves believe, but being women, shouldn't they take care and portray Sadhna/Ragini in a better light, and in a more real way? They should have made this a discussion and not a permission issue like it was. What would Sagini have done had Alevir said no? And Why should they have to ask Alevir for permission? Sometimes its like women are progressing so much everywhere, and then you watch soaps.



yeah yaar...its like, in the world of hillary clinton, angela merkel, indra nooyi, etc. etc. ETC. women like sagini STILL exist!!! sighs... its not just the soaps yaar, people like them do really exist, and there are MANYYYYYY of them, unfortunately...oh well, what you gonna do...???
at the end of the day though, you have to remeber, that's not the only thing about sagini that exist; they are very, VERY good people at both heart and mind, so that counts a LOTTTTT too.
as for the portrayal of it all, i guess just let it go yaar, let it go...😊 no point in being so frustrated with it, its only gonna make your mood worse...seriously, who cares...lol. 😉
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Priiiiiiceyyyy!🤗 Missed you yaar!

Yar yeh Vasu hamare jodis ke peecha kab chode giiiiii???? When will she leave our Salekh alone!?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Omshanti1111

Also, I wonder, why Ragini had to go with Anand to that place to look for a job...are Sadhna and Ragini so uneducated...did Sadhna not find a job in the office or will Ragini will not find a job..CTs should be aware that part-time jobs are rather readily available than full time jobs...

actually sagini never did job before so they were not much aware abt hu d job is searched & all tht becoz sagini always remein depended on somebody either before marrige (mamaji) or after marrige (husband )so they were not aware frm d outside world so anand supported them by making them help in searching d job.
as far as reactions of alevir concerened , it is not a big issue . they were not stopping them frm doing work , they were just concerened abt them as they didn't wanted them 2 suffer becoz they had 2 do household work also.
anand went wid ragini becoz ranvir would hav gone 2 office as it was morning & office time.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: yanks28

Priiiiiiceyyyy!🤗 Missed you yaar!

Yar yeh Vasu hamare jodis ke peecha kab chode giiiiii???? When will she leave our Salekh alone!?



missed you too yaar...😒 but i have been talking to you for awhile now, so its all good 😊 i was actually updating my salekh fansite, salekh-online.co.nr and that is why i hadn't come to the forum all day...but i'm done updating my site now, so please be sure to check it out if you get a chance 😊
as for vasu...yaar, mein tujhe kya kahoon...??? wok kab, KAB hamari salekh ko chodegi, usse shanti se jiney degi...mujhe toh nahin pata...but i hope it happens soon, or at least, HAPPENS!!!! lol
Edited by pricey28 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: sushmitadutta

actually sagini never did job before so they were not much aware abt hu d job is searched & all tht becoz sagini always remein depended on somebody either before marrige (mamaji) or after marrige (husband )so they were not aware frm d outside world so anand supported them by making them help in searching d job.
as far as reactions of alevir concerened , it is not a big issue . they were not stopping them frm doing work , they were just concerened abt them as they didn't wanted them 2 suffer becoz they had 2 do household work also.
anand went wid ragini becoz ranvir would hav gone 2 office as it was morning & office time.



i know ragi has zero experience getting a paid job (didn't she teach dancing, that too temporarily, for free?) and sadi has little experience (worked wiith maalika), but at the same time, i thought they were well-educated...??? i thought they both had college bachelor degrees??? a lot of people at sagini's age JUST start working for the first time.
but anyways. that's not the point here though. point is, educated or not, no one should have to decide if sagini can work, or how much they can work, other than sagini themselves. point is, they shouldn't have to ask for someone's approval. getting others' input, discussing about it, is fine, but asking for some else permission, that should not be the case here, with ANYTHING they decide to do in life, not just their jobs, because they're women. i mean, what if ranlekh had said no...??? i think sagini would've quietly listened then 😲
that's the point yaar...😊
Edited by pricey28 - 15 years ago

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