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koolsadhu1000 thumbnail
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Posted: 11 years ago
#21
I do think courts will excuse her for being temporarily out of her mind. Her 8 years of silence is hard to explain but she has done well by her daughter. She did not let the child bear the consequences of her sorrow.


I call that wishful thinking .😆 She destroyed Ahem ...leaving him without marraige , without kid . Even Kokila became a zombie , she would not if she had a grandchild to look forward to .

When a kid dies in the way Meera fell , there r blame games in EACH house JLT . Forget sasural , even maika takes sides in blaming . Reactions r bound to be there , grief is bound to be there . Expecting it not to be there is unnatural . And to counter the blame games with another wrong is super wrong .

She said she ACCEPTED responsibility of Meera 's mishap

may i know WHY

She was wrong there , it was not any one's fault

and to top it , after accepting something that was not her fault she actually DID a fault , hid Vidya from Ahem 😆😆 and is justifying this with bullpucky unbelievable explanations and making out Ahem to be an angry monster.



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Posted: 11 years ago
#22
Just like how Gopi dont want Vidya to go away from her that its the same in case of Ahem,Gopi gave punishment to Ahem and so the family by keeping Vidya away from them. A child who has parents has a right to get love from both and mother & father and it was a blunder by Gopi that Vidya didnot get fatherly love for 8years.. No doubt here putting Meera blame is wrong by KoHem but in-return Gopi gave a punishment of Meera's loss to Vidya too by keeping her away from her Ahem That biggest crime done by gopi... Gopi took daughter away from his own father and family tab toh kuch nahi every one say she was right but if when Ahem doing something so people start bashing and make him bad...Clap was not do with one hand that needs both the hand,if Ahem is wrong same will apply with gopi too...Every one is tell ahem was not done anything for gopi, after starts of education track he try try to become good husband and he succed,if u remember the koki jail track, blindfold rubbish to punishment koki given to gopi Ahem did stand up for gopi! He went against koki,after meera acciedent Ahem angry with her,He always support in every thingto gopi,but u all using some rubbish word for Ahem that was shame,some r so called we r also Fan of Ahem but first think about Ahem feeling too then so called call her self Ahem fan... Sorry if i hurt some that i dont want to be ,but plz think about Ahem feeling Gopi took daughter away from his own father, too...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#23
Gopi was blamed for Meera's death. The Modi's are all responsible for Meera's death.
They knew the picnic area was not safe so they should have gone to another park.
They should have been looking after Meera.
Gopi should not have been the only one responsible for Meera's safety
No one except Gopi noticed that Meera had wandered away from the safe area.
No one noticed Radha's abscence during the search for Meera except Rashi.

I believe or vaguely remember that Radha told Baa that she will look after meera, I might be wrong.
baa was not playing games so why did she not keep observing meera.
Gopi was supposed to serve food for the family and look after meera.
the lazy Modi women just like unpaid servants.

Heta and Kokila does no domestic work, they are just lazy people. maybe Kokila ambition is to be an expert in ruining the life of good people.

Ahem is certainly Kokila's puppet. Ahem's father and Jigar's father has no say in what goes on in the house. kokila is the queen of the Modis castle.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#24
Kools I totally agree with you in regards to Vidya that Gopi is compeletey wrong. I dont care what happens but you dont hide a child from their parent espcially if that parent had already lost a child.
HOWEVER...

I dont blame her for leaving and cutting all contacts with them and her so called useless husband. I never really liked this serial or the relationship that ahem or gopi had because he is such a mama's boy. His mom controls him and he has no say. He abandoned anita without a second glance because his mommy didnt want a modern bahu. His mom said that gopi is responsible for death of meera so that is what ahem believes too. It is one thing if rashi had dropped meera because she is careless but this is gopi we are all talking about. Gopi will give up her life before she deliberatelycauses harm to someone else. So how could anyone accuse this mother of being the cause of her child's death. Who the hell is Kokila to point fingers? This is the same woman that never treated her kids equally. Ahem was her golden egg and Kinjal the left overs. Even now this whole vidya issue is between husband and wife. Who the hell is she to interfere? Let ahem speak for himself, he is longer a kid.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#25
This is what i see

Ahem and Koki's angry blames r held equivalent to driving her out of the house .

Sorry , but i disagree there , coz if that was the case , every house in Indian joint family system would be bereft of bahus , aged or young . There r terrific blame games in every joint family , this was maamla of an accidental death of child . Does not mean u acquire the right to withold crucial fact of a forthcoming child from ur husband and decide i will tell him when the child becomes big , oh boy no .

One does not leave sasural when

they don't want a divorce

when theres no domestic violence

when one is pregnant

when sasural is throbbing with the grief of their dead youth

The anger towards Ahem is that he is a mama's boy

The anger towards him is he blamed her unfairly in grief

with same mama's boy Gopi was happily doing sansaar

and for one unfair blame she took 8 years of the growing up of second kid away from him ...may i know what justice is that , and today she is standing outside the gate saying she is a Maa

Which Maa deprives a kid of a wonderful father for her own private assumptions


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Just think about the scenario...if she stayed back in MM after the birth of the baby they wouldn't have let Gopi touch the baby saying all sorts of things and making her more guilty so it's better she went away in my POV
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Posted: 11 years ago
#27
I have no problems with her going away . I have problems with not informing the father . She should have informed and left , let them contest in court . Today she is showing guts to stand outside the gate , she should have shown legal guts too . Buts whats this .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

I do think courts will excuse her for being temporarily out of her mind. Her 8 years of silence is hard to explain but she has done well by her daughter. She did not let the child bear the consequences of her sorrow.



I call that wishful thinking .😆 She destroyed Ahem ...leaving him without marraige , without kid . Even Kokila became a zombie , she would not if she had a grandchild to look forward to .

When a kid dies in the way Meera fell , there r blame games in EACH house JLT . Forget sasural , even maika takes sides in blaming . Reactions r bound to be there , grief is bound to be there . Expecting it not to be there is unnatural . And to counter the blame games with another wrong is super wrong .

She said she ACCEPTED responsibility of Meera 's mishap

may i know WHY

She was wrong there , it was not any one's fault

and to top it , after accepting something that was not her fault she actually DID a fault , hid Vidya from Ahem 😆😆 and is justifying this with bullpucky unbelievable explanations and making out Ahem to be an angry monster.





Gopi accepted she was at fault because she truly believes it was her fault. I do not see it otherwise. If a child drops out of your hand into the water and then disappears, I am sure you will not be thinking that it was not your fault.

Gopi considers herself to blame and she does not blame Ahem or Koki for their accusations. That is exactly why she does not tell them that she walked out because of what they said. She takes even that on her head and has given something for Koki and Ahem to stand on..

Blame game is alright but cruelty with words never just goes away. While I agree that Ahem and Koki have the right to grieve and be angry, they had no right to abuse Gopi..

There is no actual explanation except hearsay here...

If Gopi was completely at fault, why are not the other Modis angry at her?

Today was also he says, she says. Gopi was being Gopi when she took all the blame onto herself. She did not even accuse Ahem and Koki for making her go away. She made it easier by saying that she felt that she had to go away because Vidya would become a compensation..

I agree to disagree..

Ahem chose his own fate. I do not accuse him for being angry or for grieving, but I accuse him of inaction and for being a silent enabler.

I think it is wishful of you to think that the court case would easily be on Modis favor. For one, except for Vidya nor being known to the Modis Gopi has done no wrong with the child.

I think she has more ground to stand than you think. And if her abuse at her inlaws comes out ,she has a better ground to stand on.. No court will allow a child to grow up in an environment that believes in punishments like tying the eyes up, shutting grown women in storeroom etc.,

So yes.. I believe that Gopi was partly but not entirely at fault. Ahem is also at fault and he does not get sympathy because he has none himself. He does not have to defend Gopi but he can make his mother toe a certain line of decency. His silence just enables her further.

Koki, there is no excuse.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ahem chose his own fate. I do not accuse him for being angry or for grieving, but I accuse him of inaction and for being a silent enabler.

I think it is wishful of you to think that the court case would easily be on Modis favor. For one, except for Vidya nor being known to the Modis Gopi has done no wrong with
the child.

I am not at all saying that court case will be in Modi's favour . I am saying it will be shared custody . The deliberate hiding will definetely go against Gopi . No court in the world will accept her explanations .

And what action is Ahem supposed to take when child is dead and wife chose to leave of her own accord . Yes he would have taken action if she had informed him she was pregnant and then gone missing . Did she reveal ?
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Justlikethat1 thumbnail
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Posted: 11 years ago
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What constitutes Domestic violence and abuse?

noun: domestic violence
  1. 1.
    violent or aggressive behavior within the home, typically involving the violent abuse of a spouse or partner.


Blame game is one thing.. Being accusatory and abusing is another.. We know what Koki does and also what Ahem does when he is angry. Both Koki and Ahem are abusive. there is no two opinions on that.

Again, I reiterate, Gopi was wrong not to have given a chance to Ahem to know about Vidya in these 8 years. She cannot defend herself at that.

And she does not.. She does not say she is right in hiding the fact. That is why she gets my sympathy.

Ahem and Koki are abusers who have never known when they cross the line between abuse and being actually angry.

Ahem can atleast hide behind the fact that he was wronged for 8 years. He can either use that as an excuse or retrospect and see what made the woman who loved him dearly to leave him.

Gopi can either leave Vidya and get accused again for being a callous mother or fight for her now.

I think Gopi is doing what she considers right. She has stayed away from blaming others for her choice and mistakes.

Ahem has made his choice. So it is for him to go along with it.

Both made mistakes now and in the past. But I think blaming only Gopi is completely wrong.

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