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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Luv4games

Kools I totally agree with you in regards to Vidya that Gopi is compeletey wrong. I dont care what happens but you dont hide a child from their parent espcially if that parent had already lost a child.

HOWEVER...

I dont blame her for leaving and cutting all contacts with them and her so called useless husband. I never really liked this serial or the relationship that ahem or gopi had because he is such a mama's boy. His mom controls him and he has no say. He abandoned anita without a second glance because his mommy didnt want a modern bahu. His mom said that gopi is responsible for death of meera so that is what ahem believes too. It is one thing if rashi had dropped meera because she is careless but this is gopi we are all talking about. Gopi will give up her life before she deliberatelycauses harm to someone else. So how could anyone accuse this mother of being the cause of her child's death. Who the hell is Kokila to point fingers? This is the same woman that never treated her kids equally. Ahem was her golden egg and Kinjal the left overs. Even now this whole vidya issue is between husband and wife. Who the hell is she to interfere? Let ahem speak for himself, he is longer a kid.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Ahem chose his own fate. I do not accuse him for being angry or for grieving, but I accuse him of inaction and for being a silent enabler.

I think it is wishful of you to think that the court case would easily be on Modis favor. For one, except for Vidya nor being known to the Modis Gopi has done no wrong with
the child.


I am not at all saying that court case will be in Modi's favour . I am saying it will be shared custody . The deliberate hiding will definetely go against Gopi . No court in the world will accept her explanations .

And what action is Ahem supposed to take when child is dead and wife chose to leave of her own accord . Yes he would have taken action if she had informed him she was pregnant and then gone missing . Did she reveal ?



It was Ahem's choice that Gopi means nothing as a wife even if she was not pregnant. He had the choice to go look for her. We do not know if he did.

Yes. Ahem would have taken action if Gopi had revealed to be pregnant like he took action today. Gopi would have been the surrogate of her own child. More abuse and more taunts when she gives birth.

Ahem had 8 years to come to terms with his grief and see it from another's side.. The loss, the urge to go away. He chose to stay angry instead.

He chose to give in to his mother's demand for another marriage even when he was so obviously angry and against the decision.

He chooses now to separate his child from the only parent she has known for 8 years. Can he guarantee that he would not have done this 8 years ago too?



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Posted: 11 years ago
#33
yes Gopi was wrong in hiding the pregnancy n child when you look at her circumstances she just lost her child instead of being asked how it happened kokila went on a rampage about how gopi vahu was to be blamed for this, shes pregnant emotionally not stable, she is yearning for her child to be back in her arms if she had stayed just like today he would have said this 8 years ago you killed my first child i dont want you killing my second, how would you feel. All these things they are saying now both mother n son would have done long back the end result would have been Gopi taking her own life or dying. Vidya is her reason for living kokila as a mother has her son she has no right in telling any mother that you cannot have your child.

Truth be told modis would lose this case and then kokila and Ahem could even be jailed for the mental physical abuse they have give to Gopi


This is what i wrote earlier on a thread What happened to Meera it was a accident, Meera was playing with Radha after that i didnt see radha or meera i went looking for them i saw meera she was by herself by the dangerous part of the park i went after her, within seconds i lost my child i slipped it was an accident. I did not do this deliberately , i gave birth to Meera in the desert i loved and worshiped her, she was my shining star how dare both of you tell me i was irresponsible.. a shocking look from Ahem and Kokila , Kokila is about to speak n Gopi says BIKUL CHUP . you are a mother when your child gets hurt or is not in front of you how do you feel ? I have a question for you if it was Ahemji who had done this would you have got me married? Ahemji i have a question for you if that the mandir you saw me getting married to someone else how would you feel?
Now i am going to tell you and you better listen very carefully Take me to court i will fight back not just for my daughter but for all the wrong doings you did to me looking me in the store room because you thought i had broken my fast, slapping me because i was unpar not fit for being your wife, sending me back home and then bringing me back so that you would not have to tell your nani the truth, and many more truths because all this is the truth i will fight for my daughter by telling the truth.. All family shocked n ahem n kokila left gobsmacked Modi parivar ka truth Good bye vidya we are leaving.

Ahem will see his child gopi wants that but what ahem is doing is completely wrong by saying that he will drive out gopi out of vidyas mind




Edited by suk19 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34
It is unfair to blame Gopi.
Gopi was in shock and grieving for meera when she left' She was not in her senses to know what is right or wrong. She would have forgotten about her pregnancy at the time.

She left not knowing where she was going and no one stopped her. They were glad to see the back of her'
If Gopi had died then there would have been no Vidya but maybe Gopi's reason for living is the thought of the unborn child. That gave her a reason to live.
If the Modis cared about her they would have stopped her. Gopi was the one who had suffered the greatest loss. She gave birth to Meera and Meera was her life.

No one was aware of the circumstances surrounding Meera's death and they still are not aware. If Gopi had stayed there then Vidya might have been murdered by Radha. Radha's targets are the defenceless little people. If that had happened then Gopi would have been blamed.

A mother has first rights to a child providing that the mother is a caring person and the child wishes to be with the mother.
Vidya will choose Gopi and maybe the Modis will also lose Vidya.
Edited by pamela01 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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JLT agree to disagree with everything about it being Ahem's choice and the ifs and buts .

I will put my pov in a nutshell

Gopi WAS wrong in not informing Ahem of pregnancy period . Courts WILL reprimand her for her deliberate silence , any other court shown in SNS will be unreal and dramatic both . Something that i will not agree in my mind as a viewer and switch to some other track .

Both Ahem and Gopi will get a reality check ...they keep saying Meri beti . No . Its Hamaari Beti and the court will give one parent visitation rights and access to the child's life . So even if Kokila says we don't want Gopi , court will make Gopi a part of Vidya's life whether Ahem Koki like it or not . Similiarly Gopi will get a solid reality check too , she cannot live with child alone in Somgadh , she HAS to send her to father occasionally . And each time she will NOT be needed to escort Vidya , Vidya's relation with Ahem is independent of her .

I never refuted about the bad way she was at times treated in Modi house . Neither do i cancel it out by stating her ill treatment of Urmila . All i am saying is blame games r not new to her and countering them with these steps is simply not done .

I am NOT talking of those times but only THIS track . This track shows Gopi being happily married , losing her child accidentally , being blamed for it and not informing sasural of second pregnancy and raising child on her own . Taking decision to leave on her own .

Anger on Ahem for being a mama's boy does not excuse this wrong

Anger on Koki for being unfair too has nothing to do with what is wrong .

Emotional drivel like i am Maa ETC does not cancel out a serious wrong doing . If ur Maa think of what u deprived child of for 8 yrs .

If u have himmat to stand outside gates and do satyagraha for child , u have guts to fight legally too if inl aws threaten to oust u out from child's life . Which she should have done 8 yrs back .

I never say that it would have been wrong to take this extreme step against in laws coz they were taking extreme steps too if they were taking baby away from u

Now i do not fault Koki to get Ahem re settled , bahu left , grandchild dead , son turned into woraholic zombie , mother who brushes aside her zombie like state and stirs to do a final settlement of son's life before she dies is not wrong in my eyes

i do fault Koki Ahem for remarraige without a divorce

I feel that Ahem , for one unfair blame has got 8 years of missing out on his baby growing into a girl and thats terrible punishment .












Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36
Kools this is what I go with.

Gopi was wrong to hide Vidya from Ahem for 8 years. Absolutely correct. She should have made it known. 8 Years is a long time and there is no excuse for that. I do not think Gopi is asking to be excused either.

I do not agree that the step Gopi is taking today for Vidya could have been taken 8 years ago. Gopi was vulnerable, tired, guilty and broken. She had nothing to stand upon and she ran. I do not fault her for being an emotional person. I do not fault her for not trusting her MIL and husband. They pushed her there. Koki and Ahem are as much to blame as Gopi is for her disappearance.

I cannot absolve Ahem for for his part in making Gopi go away just because he was angry and grieving for 8 years. I am the first to admit that he has the right to be angry with Gopi for hiding Vidya but it is he who has the first right, not Koki. He needs to know the difference.

I am not angry with him for remarrying. I am not angry with Koki for thinking about marrying Ahem off. (Yes. I am angry with her for making another girl a scapegoat to her unhappy son but that is a different topic)

Bottom line...

Gopi was at fault when she hid Vidya but she was not entirely wrong running away.

Gopi's disappearance does not absolve Ahem and Koki of their abuse.

It does not absolve them of their treatment of Gopi now and before 8 years.

Ahem and Koki cannot take a high ground because Gopi takes all the blame herself. they are as much at mistake as Gopi is.

Gopi's mistake was not letting Ahem know about Vidya in these 8 years. I offer no excuse for that. She has none. She was just a coward.

But I also consider Ahem to be at fault. He neither had empathy then and he does not have empathy now.

Koki is a different issue. Her loud voice just buries all her mistakes or so she thinks.

So my take is that none of these three were absolutely in the clear then.. So it is wrong to pin everything on Gopi and assume that Koki and Ahem can be absolved just because they drove her away but did not actually say those words
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Posted: 11 years ago
#37
I get that ahem and koki are angry over vidya but she is not a toy that they fight with gopi with she has feelings. What ahem and koki are doing is being childish you didn't tell us so we are keeping her now. Vidya has made it quite clear what she want is a family with her mother and father not a family with just her father hence why she got them married again.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38
Gopi has taken wrong steps in the eight years since Meera's disappearance but I have to ask, where was the support network in those dark days. From the looks of it they held her responsible. If there was anyone to stop her and know what she was feeling it would be ahem. He of all people would know and should have shared her grief. Had he have supported her then maybe she would not have left.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Xarina

Gopi has taken wrong steps in the eight years since Meera's disappearance but I have to ask, where was the support network in those dark days. From the looks of it they held her responsible. If there was anyone to stop her and know what she was feeling it would be ahem. He of all people would know and should have shared her grief. Had he have supported her then maybe she would not have left.


There was no support system they just blamed her, their grief was important not the one who carried meera and gave birth and then lost a grip of meera.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: angelic8219


There was no support system they just blamed her, their grief was important not the one who carried meera and gave birth and then lost a grip of meera.

👏 it was not about grief it was about blame

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