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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ilike_tv

I have slight disagreement here!!! I will not say Ahem good and Kinjal bad.. In my eyes both were bad... When he had values?!!! before marriage what was he?!! The so called familiy values and respect for others, where was it? He was a jerk... complete mamma's boy... ( sorry sherry!!😛 ) he had no respect for his dad..coz his mom never gave a damn about him.. he let down the girl he loved just coz his mom said no!!!😲 did ask her permission before falling in love with Anitha?!!!😡

I know all of you would say anita is very bad and Koki's decision is good... But I have totally no respect for such guys, who leave their love for money or mummy!!!

Then why Koki selected Gopi over Rashi for her lakhon mein ek Harvard educated son?!!! She did it coz, she knew that a gawar will always stay under her feet!!!! ( I still remember those first episodes!!!) But she changed.. Yet again I would say its Gopi's effect ...



Sorry Ponny... If was really that bad as u ppl said so he never ever got married with gopi not coz hes mama's boys coz he respect his mom decision.. Coz he loves her to the core n today whtever Ahem is coz of Kokilai ab tum isko koi bhi naam doon.. Mamas boy ya respectable son... He leave his love coz of his mom.. In this world so many guyz are doing the same as ahem did... Coz sometime parent's or their decision are more important than anything of our lifes... So i dont think any thing ahem did worng...
As for parag or his relationship so since childhood he observes how his mom all lone upbring ahem n kinjal or parag is equal resposible for Ahem behaviour towards him... Parag isnt the idol dad for his son.. Till that today wht parag do for him nothing... Being a kid if u saw ur dad are so careless or irresposible so u should be excatually like ahem... 😳

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Posted: 13 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: -GiNa-



Sorry Ponny... If was really that bad as u ppl said so he never ever got married with gopi not coz hes mama's boys coz he respect his mom decision.. Coz he loves her to the core n today whtever Ahem is coz of Kokilai ab tum isko koi bhi naam doon.. Mamas boy ya respectable son... He leave his love coz of his mom.. In this world so many gum are doing the same as ahem did... Coz sometime parent's are more important than anything of our lifes... So i dont think any thing ahem did worng...
As for parag or his relationship so since childhood he observes how his mom all lone upbring ahem n kinjal or parag is equal pesposible for Ahem behaviou towards him... Parag isnt the idol dad for his son.. Till that today wht parag do for him nothing... Being a kid if u saw ur dad are so caress or irresposible so u must be excatually like ahem... 😳

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completely agree with you sherry!! 😃 Parag never set any example and koki never bothered! So its not the kiddos fault here!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -GiNa-



Sorry Ponny... If was really that bad as u ppl said so he never ever got married with gopi not coz hes mama's boys coz he respect his mom decision.. Coz he loves her to the core n today whtever Ahem is coz of Kokilai ab tum isko koi bhi naam doon.. Mamas boy ya respectable son... He leave his love coz of his mom.. In this world so many guyz are doing the same as ahem did... Coz sometime parent's or their decision are more important than anything of our lifes... So i dont think any thing ahem did worng...
As for parag or his relationship so since childhood he observes how his mom all lone upbring ahem n kinjal or parag is equal pesposible for Ahem behaviour towards him... Parag isnt the idol dad for his son.. Till that today wht parag do for him nothing... Being a kid if u saw ur dad are so careless or irresposible so u should be excatually like ahem... 😳

sorry sherry to disagree with watever u said abt Parag... Parag s nt careless or irresponsible... yeah he s nt into business like Chirag dat doesnt give a reason to ignore one's own father its wrong... Parag dnt take active role n his kids upbringing coz koki never allowed... dere r many instances we hv seen koki telling Parag nt to interfer n Ahem's nd kinjal's matters...
if Ahem had so much respect nd love for his mom y didnt he tuk permission frm his mom before falling in love with Anita????? y did he treat gopi so badly even aftr knowing his mom choose her???
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Leki

sorry sherry to disagree with watever u said abt Parag... Parag s nt careless or irresponsible... yeah he s nt into business like Chirag dat doesnt give a reason to ignore one's own father its wrong... Parag dnt take active role n his kids upbringing coz koki never allowed... dere r many instances we hv seen koki telling Parag nt to interfer n Ahem's nd kinjal's matters...

if Ahem had so much respect nd love for his mom y didnt he tuk permission frm his mom before falling in love with Anita????? y did he treat gopi so badly even aftr knowing his mom choose her???


Beautiful PoVs guys..👏

All I can say is none is faultless here. If someone is faultless then they cannot be human. Basically all of these people are human. They have their faults but what makes them good humans is the fact that they corrected it when they saw their faults.

Koki is too proud and too strict.
Ahem was egoistic and self centered
Gopi was naive that bordered on being stupid.
Parag was just backboneless. He could have and should have put his foot down to heck with Koki's pride. Just like he did during Jigna's track
Kinjal was/is spoilt and unreasonable.

This family of humans were linked somehow and slowly they changed. Every one mentioned above has changed slowly. Kinjal being the slowest, her change is not yet apparent to us. The fact is that the upbringing by Koki and Parag contributed to an extent to Ahem and Kinjal's life. But

Ahem at one point realized that his mom did not mean to bring him up a certain way. It all depends on how to interpret it. You see we say that Ahem and Kinjal disrespect their spouses because that is what Koki does to Parag.

I would say, Ahem and Kinjal are at an age where they should have realized that they should not disrespect their spouse, whatever the reason be because that brings imbalance to the family. It is the way we take in the environment that matters.
Everyone has a choice and they go with that in their life. While the options may be presented due to others, parents and your society, the choice purely lies with you and only you.

While I agree on the faults of Koki-Parag and the Modi elders, I do not agree that Kinjal and Ahem were brats only due to this fact. 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -GiNa-



Sorry Ponny... If was really that bad as u ppl said so he never ever got married with gopi not coz hes mama's boys coz he respect his mom decision.. Coz he loves her to the core n today whtever Ahem is coz of Kokilai ab tum isko koi bhi naam doon.. Mamas boy ya respectable son... He leave his love coz of his mom.. In this world so many guyz are doing the same as ahem did... Coz sometime parent's or their decision are more important than anything of our lifes... So i dont think any thing ahem did worng...
As for parag or his relationship so since childhood he observes how his mom all lone upbring ahem n kinjal or parag is equal resposible for Ahem behaviour towards him... Parag isnt the idol dad for his son.. Till that today wht parag do for him nothing... Being a kid if u saw ur dad are so careless or irresposible so u should be excatually like ahem... 😳



I dont know why many guys do so, sherry?!!! They fall in love with a girl and suddenly for their parents they say bye to them.. and happily marry another one for their parents!!! He had the same parents when he fall in love with the girl... he did not ask anyoneone's permission before falling in love with her... then on a fine morning he remembered he had parents a family etc etc and They did not approve the relationship so love turned into no love!!!! If he could not convince his parents , he should not have fallen in love in the first place!!!

About parag, Koki did not like him from the first day.. Not coz he is valueless or characterless .. she did not like him coz he is a poet... he is not a businessman like his brother.. Not earning big money.. It's coz of his cultured behavior, the house was not a war zone!!! Ahem had no respect for his father coz of the picture Koki given to him... she portrayed him as a nikamma!!! I strongly believe that he goes to all the kavi sammelan , just to escape from Koki and her shrp eyes!!!

It is natural that kids are more attached to mom.. afterall, she is the one carried them inside her body as a part of it!!! Father is the reality that kids know from mom... The way she show that will stick to their mind.. Koki showed parag in a bad light ... Until recent days he was in the shades for Ahem...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Leki

sorry sherry to disagree with watever u said abt Parag... Parag s nt careless or irresponsible... yeah he s nt into business like Chirag dat doesnt give a reason to ignore one's own father its wrong... Parag dnt take active role n his kids upbringing coz koki never allowed... dere r many instances we hv seen koki telling Parag nt to interfer n Ahem's nd kinjal's matters...

if Ahem had so much respect nd love for his mom y didnt he tuk permission frm his mom before falling in love with Anita????? y did he treat gopi so badly even aftr knowing his mom choose her???



Here we go in the same stream!!! are you also from kottayam?!!!😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ Leki... Im so sorry ... But any mother or wife would never stop has husband n has kids father to take a part in upbringing in their own kids.. U take it worng koki here... Koki also want that parag as father showing his interest n love towards his kids or taking part in their upbringing. parag itself isnt interested as i feel coz he's so much busy in his life he have no worry abt his kids n wife.. So in my heart have no soft coner for parag as husband or as father...

I agree Ahem didnt took permission from his mom before falling in love with Anita... How many of us took permission from our mom n dad before falling in love... No one?? When u falling in love so ur heart n ur emotions wont wait for any permision.. Love is just happend... So u wont say why he not took permission.. Come on... !! He is human or like any human he falling love... So wht permission n all yaar
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -GiNa-

@ Leki... Im so sorry ... But any mother or wife would never stop has husband n has kids father to take a part in upbringing in thi own kids.. U take it worng koki here... Koki also want that parag as father showing his interest n love towards his kids or taking part in thi upbringing not parag itself isnt interested as i feel coz so much busy in his life he have no worry abt his kids n wife.. So in my heart have no soft cone for parag as husband or as father...

I agree Ahem didnt took permission from his mom before falling in love with Anita... How many of us took permission from our mom n dad before falling in love... No one?? When u falling in love so ur heart n ur emotions wont wait for any permision.. Love is just happend... So u wont say why he not took permission.. Come on... !! He is human or like any human he falling love... So wht permission n all yaar



Yes, love happens... but when mom interferes Love goes outta window!!! That's so unfair!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Ponny, Leki and Sherry - The fact that Ahem never stood up for Anitha or his love shows that he just did not value that relationship as he should have. Anitha was his dream. He thought he wanted just that particular dream and as any person whose dream was snatched away he poured his disappointment into the person he could put it on which was Gopi unfortunately.
That was Ahem's mistake. He just was not clear about his priority to Anitha. He was clear about it in his heart. To him his mom's word was the bible. If that was the case the guy should have made that clear Anitha on day 1. He did not and he put himself, Anitha and Gopi through the mess because of his botched job.

@Ponny - I will not be so quick to absolve Mr. Parag of being at no fault here. Wanting peace in the family is all good and wise. I understand that he felt dominated by Koki and her desire to see her husband earn his living.
But I think that although Koki does sound the extreme, the simple fact that she needed her husband to earn itself is not incorrect. A joint family where she has to look for her BIL to provide for her and her family can be humiliating. It is hard because you know that you are dependent on someone other than your husband for the good upbringing of your kids and your family.
If the Modi's had not been so conservative, Koki could not gained her financial independence that reducing her bitterness. Unfortunately she could not. We do not know the reason why. But I do not think it was being a poet that made Koki go against Parag but the fact that he could not provide for the family when he was needed most.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ilike_tv



Yes, love happens... but when mom interferes Love goes outta window!!! That's so unfair!!!


That means it was not love, just an attraction that went phut when the first whif of interference sounded😉

BTW just wanted to say.. I love this thread.. A super duper one for all the views and discussions😃
Edited by Justlikethat1 - 13 years ago

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