Clarification from your reporter - Page 19

Originally posted by: Ms. Bholi Bhali

I thought I answered u here, but if u still think I accused u, then I am sorry that you think I accused you, coz I didn't!!!

thx for coming.... now i m just giving my opinion on the whole issue... It was perfectly alright to close the thread if u felt it may mislead the members and as u did not have any idea..... but the problem was with the usage of words.... we expect mods to request atleast once if we post something wrong rather than directly using harsh words....

I hope u respect my opinion😃

Shady, I have a question for you and till you answer that, I am requesting Adi not to say anything more on the Mohini issue.

MoHINI was banned. Reasons we have told you.

ONE OF THE MEMBERS/ WITNESSES when informed on pm by me, told me he believed me and then agreed with em that she was wrong.

There are many aspectes to every issue.

But I want to know what is the issue on this thread?? Is it rehashing of old issues..... if so, after the survey, we said we are working on it, so give time to see the change.

If Mohini, we will take it on PMs, becuase we do not want to keep rehashing the same issue again and again.

If not the above, please clarify.

Others to please wait for the author of the thread to clarify the issue and then the discussion to proceed.

Originally posted by: Iron

Adi if you were so clean, why was the thread trashed..that is enough to prove that you did do something wrong with Bhasker and pl after reading those comments..any one could have ot warning. Talk about interity my dear when you show it.

The things you wrote and blaming a pujari was ridiculous

Iron bhai,

What gives to you right to jump to conclusion or deciding oin the judgement beofre the verdict was passed?before the case was thouroughly assesed? Are we resorting to bias here or trying to believe what we want to believe.

In that case even if God comes and tell you you wont buy it.One can take a horse to water cannot force it to drink it.

As regards to the Pujari..again how can u decide that? Did the pujari talk to you or are you insinuating something?

I have just one question to all..

Earlier this year the same issue was raised in this forum by a member against certain MOD/s.

The people who are constantly debating on the merit of the replies provided by the present MODS had given the EXACT SAME REPLY on behalf of that MOD/S..and yes..they spoke on behalf of the MODS!!!

If they believed these replies to be correct just 7-8 months back why are they questioning those replies now? what has changed in these months..the MODs?

so can I also assume something here..the unwritten hints between the words?

here is the link to that thread :

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Originally posted by: kabhi_21

thx for coming.... now i m just giving my opinion on the whole issue... It was perfectly alright to close the thread if u felt it may mislead the members and as u did not have any idea..... but the problem was with the usage of words.... we expect mods to request atleast once if we post something wrong rather than directly using harsh words....

I hope u respect my opinion😃

And as a Dev Team member we expect the same from all the Members. So the onus rests on all of us together.

I hope you respect my opinion too!

Originally posted by: Iron

Think harder Adi..your answer is in your question😊

Shall i read it as bias from certain members side?😊

Originally posted by: adi_0112

SHADY,

sorry do not buy your explanations,

you are mere playing with words here..and dodging the issue.

There were more than 3 SRGMP witnesses over there that day..and u also know who they were.

have you taken their statement also in this matter ? Why were they not approached for their view?

There were some other members present there, why was they not asked for their statement on the issue

How did you arrive at your conclusion that Bhaskar was not honest? How did you arrive at your conclusion that Mohini was telling the truth?

Why were you selective in choosing your witnesses?

Again repeat..when the section Viewbie and MOD was present..why was their opinion not taken.

HOw can you then call it a thouroughly investigates case?

Adi - it is not for me to investigate the case. I would invetigate if I had the authority. I just got as much info as possible, and passed it on to Vijay and Minnie so they could investigate. But they haven't.

Here is why I feel Bhaskar was not honest. This is what I wrote to Minnie:

Coming to Mohini - Bhaskar told me about that comment she made. I was shocked, and I felt if Mohini made that comment, she deserves to be banned. Here is an excerpt of a PM between me and Bhaskar about this issue, where I brought up a viewbie, Trups:

Sent by : Bhaskar.T
Sent : September 10 2006 at 1:10am

Now comming to trups comment. Well I will trash that post. But she reacted that way as just then Mohini had posted something that is even beyond me to tell. She had attacked my parents and hit me hard by calling names to my family. If you want to I can show you the message too. Just to let you know she had posted something like.... Like you have lost so many in your life you will loose rest with you too now. Does she know how this will hit me. I was too shocked then to even react. But still kept quiet. Trups and me have family connection so it was quite natural she reacted that way. Have you seen any others being shown such attitude by any of us.

-- Previous Private Message --
Sent by : shadyhtown
Sent : 08 September 2006 at 6:56pm

Another issue, and one I feel a little more strongly about, that I wanted to bring to your attention. In the same thread, a viewbie, Trups, passed a remark that went like this, "KTH forum is ours and u r not welcome here .......So Get out...... ......Get lost".

Remarks like 'KTH forum is ours', and deciding who is welcome or not, and asking them to leave 'our' forum. That took me aback, to be honest. I understand that it may have been a remark made in the heat of the moment, but a Viewbie should have been more careful about her words. There's a difference between saying 'Leave this thread' and saying 'Get lost from this forum'.

Now you see - Bhaskar tells me here that Mohini posted that comment on the forum, which was why Trups reacted. I trusted him. I had no reason not to believe him. But I later found out from Manjujain, who was present on the thread at the time, that Mohini said no such thing on the forum - maybe on PM, but definitely nothing of the sort on the forum. Just to be sure, I checked with Jaadoogar, and uknaik99, both of who were present there too, and both of them confirmed Mohini said nothing of the sort on the forum. So that was 3 different people who confirmed it for me.

Manju di is a very religious and God-fearing person - probably the most honest one on the forum (in my opinion). Jaadoogar is a very neutral and honest person too (he handled our SRGMP survey), and Kavita (uknaik99) is also neutral. None of these people had anything against Mods or affinity for Mohini. They just said what they saw, and I believe them. They also have copied the messages from Mohini before they were deleted, to show she said nothing abusive. You can contact each of them and get their inputs.

So if they are saying the truth, then Bhaskar is lying that Mohini said that on the forum. Maybe to protect Trups - I don't know. But the point is, if he can lie about Mohini saying this on forum, what's to say he cannot lie about Mohini saying that on PM. After knowing this, I honestly lost my trust. We all know how easy it is to make up a copy-pasted PM, and when that PM is said to have been deleted - that makes it even fishier.

So does that clarify why I felt Bhaskar was not honest? And does that also clarify why I did not ask the Viewbie for her input?

Originally posted by: Iron

WHy is it so hard to admit mistake

Iron Bhai can you all admit to mistakes too. Can you all admit to all the personal attacks made on the Dev Team and some particular members last few days??? No you can't....... because thats again same attitude........

Originally posted by: uknaik99

Since Mohini issue is raised and I was a witness.. I want to ask MODS this question

when A member can get banned on the basis of PM Under which rules of IF can, a member can make fun of God, If we say about someone attacking , about singer or member , mods gave warning, but Why not the warning given to those members Who made fun and insult HIndu Gods in front of forum..

Is this under rules and regulations that we can badly make the fun of God by saying "wiping nose with bed sheets and brushing with broom"...Those members didn;t get any warning and if a member just give the example that can u ask same thing about parents, and oppose Gods fun and insult, Why they get warning??...Is this not double standards..Under which rule , members can make fun of god badly and no warning..

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Atelast can I get an answer today.....

Originally posted by: vijay

And as a Dev Team member we expect the same from all the Members. So the onus rests on all of us together.

I hope you respect my opinion too!

Vijay u r perfectly nice person using good words.... but if someone directly tells u that u have done a crime how will u react just think once.... I have seen how a mod reacted..... and I did say sorry on open forum for that.... so cant we expect the same is a mods ego and position everything for them and they can do anything😕