DOTW - SRGMP Contests: Who should judge? - Page 21

Originally posted by: juggyE

I think its high time this debate is closed and a new one started.
- Some purists want the show to be judged by respected eminent musicians so that the best singer can be selected.
- Others want public voting so that the top 5 singers can get recognition and a better platform.

Neither side is willing to give ground to the other. Lets start afresh (with a new topic) rather than posting the same thing over and over again...

kyaa yaar tum u kyoun dookhi ho rahein hoo 😉 😆 😆

let them enjoy 😛

Originally posted by: gauri_2

very well said vijay.....and that's why gaayaki should be most important.

Jaya, this is food for thought for you dear:....and it's not just two singers in past 10 years.....you have sunidhi chauhan as well. Anuradha Paudwal and Alka Yagnik, Abhijeet (srgmp judge) suresh waadeyker...they all were discovered thru Aarohi and were successful for a long time. They did not get hyped because 10-20 yrs ago, it was a different zamana....internet, media etc. not as commonly used as now.....that's why the earlier participants were not hyped. I bet if Gajji starte SRGMP in old style, the contestants will get lot more popularity than what shreya and kunal got in their times.

The format changed when indian channels started copying American Idol show...they copied not only the format, but also the downside of a system churning out unjustified winners. The new format is still very new. How can you say right now that these platform will make the contestants survive 10 years down the road as well. I think the debate topic was about the judgement approach......yeh platform approach beech mein kahan sey aa gaya😕 aur kyon best singers haareyn pehli baar mein when they truly deserve to win

welll said, agreed gauri ji 😊

Originally posted by: gauri_2

very well said vijay.....and that's why gaayaki should be most important.

Jaya, this is food for thought for you dear:....and it's not just two singers in past 10 years.....you have sunidhi chauhan as well. Anuradha Paudwal and Alka Yagnik, Abhijeet (srgmp judge) suresh waadeyker...they all were discovered thru Aarohi and were successful for a long time. They did not get hyped because 10-20 yrs ago, it was a different zamana....internet, media etc. not as commonly used as now.....that's why the earlier participants were not hyped. I bet if Gajji starte SRGMP in old style, the contestants will get lot more popularity than what shreya and kunal got in their times.

The format changed when indian channels started copying American Idol show...they copied not only the format, but also the downside of a system churning out unjustified winners. The new format is still very new. How can you say right now that these platform will make the contestants survive 10 years down the road as well. I think the debate topic was about the judgement approach......yeh platform approach beech mein kahan sey aa gaya😕 aur kyon best singers haareyn pehli baar mein when they truly deserve to win

bilkul sahi kaha tum nae gauri ..yae hi ti hum loge itni daer sae bole rahein hein ...akhir kyoun 😕??? 😆😆 movie ka title leg raha hein yaar 😉

Originally posted by: gauri_2

yaar very busy with work that's why. Abhi bhi there's so much to finish before going home but this topic will be closed in a day or two so this was the last chance to express what I have been thinking all along😆😆

It's a lesson for us all in future also...if we see debate deviating from topic, then some one needs to bring it back on patri. I hope I'll get more time in future to visit DOTW.

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agree with you...i think this was started in a rush but the response is really good. iam glad to see this debate ..coming back on forum ..after such a long time...feel good to be part of this debate..

nice to meet you..i donot think we have met before.😊

😆😆😆 So the debate is still ON ? 😕 😆

Gauri, Dolly, Vijay and all others - The initiator of any topic is always clear on what he or she thinks and means by the topic... and in any topic, just beyond the heading, the 'why' part of it becomes very very important.. atleast that is what I have learnt in all the dabates I have participated so far - We definitely need to look at the bigger picture... the debate topic is just a thought invoker on the same..... I have also learnt in debating ethics that we need not agree to each other's view points but we need to respect the other side and not ridicule them! I also know for sure that any case cannot be closed when your counterpart is not even present to present his/her points!

So, just to clarify - any debate is always about the bigger picture - to answer the Whys behind the same... As long as we dont even agree to that and just take a literal meaning of a sentence, we will never go anywhere... Gauri - yeh to wahi muhavre ke literal meaning waali baat ho gayi...

Since some of us seem to be confused about what the debate tried to address even after 30 pages... As a topic initiator, I would request the mods to close the topic and open a fresh one...

With this post, I rest my case here!

Originally posted by: Jaadoogar

Dolly ji, if you look into all posts, you will know how the topic has been deviated from the main purpose but I think those deviation were in line of the topic. It is not Jaya who deviated it. She has been very clear about the topic from the beginning till now. If you say it is deviated then everybody is responsible for deviating it including you and me and it may be none of us is clear about it. If the purpose of this topic was to get public opinion in Yes or No in favor of Judgement or Voting then there was no need of this topic, polling was better for that purpose.

jadoo ji..i have never said jaya did....i only said the heading was not clear thats all....it was about the judgement and should talk about judgement...by public or judges and not the objective of the show...and if you me and others were not clear then it means that the topic heading was not clear after all not every one can be suddenly confused. it has nothing to do with being taken personally.....we are all mature here and should take that critisim ina healthy way...

I hope everybody is enjoying this discussion and taking it in good spirit. Like I saw from Srianne post, she followed this thread silently from the beginning and I think many more have followed it too and main purpose of this topic was to bring all members interest back on something which is of common interest for everybody. Patience is the most important part of debate.

VJ Bhai: Using words like "rediculous" is not a big deal, but any intillectual discussion needs patience to listen other even if it does not favor me. I can easily say 80% of the thing you or anybody else discussed were not directly related with the topic but indirectly it was related with topic.

We are really doing nice discussion here and I personally appreciate Jaya's effort for coming up with this topic and format, Jaya mentioned my name also for bringing this DOTW but it is Jaya who did everything. I hope this series will continue.

yes we had a great discussion .....and very valid and justified points came to light 😛

Dolly - please read through all the posts before making any comments.

Time and again in the topic I have made clear that we are talking of the bigger picture and that we need to address the Whys.. This has been clarified more than once to the point that it was getting repeatative at times... But yes, you were not listening to what me or some others were trying to say...

A key thing to debate is patience and listening - without that no discussion can go ahead.. and debate also does not mean what I am saying is right and what others are saying is wrong..

A debate also does not mean that you go and say the 'topic initiator is not clear' - and yes you said that - I can quote if you want..

A debate also does not mean that you close the case when the other side is not even present to respond. and then laugh your way out on this achievement...

A debate also does not mean that you ridicule a person and her thoughts and then ask her to take criticism positively...

Atleast not after you dont even take the debate points positively and keep going round circles!

Thanks!!!