DOTW - SRGMP Contests: Who should judge?

Hello Friends,

This week onwards - we are starting a new series in our section😊

Discussion of the Week aka DOTW

(We prefer to call it Discussion and not Debate - so that emotions do not run very high 😉 and its easy for our Mods to Control the discussion environment)

Here, we will take one interesting musical topic every week and discuss on the same with our views for and against the topic. I am sure this will encourage a lot of member interaction and healthy discussions, and return our section to the olden days of active and interesting participation.

Priya has already circulated the idea with some of us and has got a favorable response, so we are looking forward to some fun here.😃

However there are some ground rules to this:

a) No digressing from the topic and uncontextual chatting
b) No bashing anyone (artist or co-member).
c) No using bad words
d) No references to personal preferences or habits of any artist
e) Remember it is just a discussion and if someones view does not match yours, he is not evil, he just has a different POV, which you can respect.

To keep the discussion balanced and focussed, the interested members should state at the outset whether they support the topic or oppose it and should speak accordingly.

Ready for the same? So lets begin...

The topic for this week is:

'SRGMP contests - should judges and viewers have an equal say on the results?'

So lets start - as stated, we would need to state whether we are going to speak for or against the above topic.

Looking fwd to an interesting week ahead 😃

Originally posted by: Jaadoogar

I prefer public, to resident judges, who also become biased towards/against some contestants after couple of episodes or sometimes even since audition. We know public are biased but statistically if sample size is bigger then probabilty of error is less. In case of public sample size is much much bigger than few judges. These Gruvi guru or trio are not a good concept.

So your stand on the discussion will be go for a purely public voting based judgement, right?

My stand on the topic will be:

The SRGMP results should be judged by a mix of judges and public opinion - 60% for the judges and 40% for the public. And yes, they should same set of judges for the duration of the contest.

Originally posted by: kabhi_21

First we have to determine what outcome we want out of the contest. There are many questions unanswered

Whether the new vision of SRGMP is restricted to singing only?

What attributes of the contestants have to be judged while considering the results?

Whether it is fair to allow one winner when we know that much support of public goes to boys, which shall not happen?

What's the purpose of the show to bring the best singer and average performer or best performer and average singer?

The judgement system can be decided only after this questions are answered

Very good points Abhi - I think lot of these will be answered as we carry on our discussions this week.

I would suggest - to start off with, based on what you have seen so far - think of an objective of the contest (as in what it is trying to address and what talent is it trying to project) and accordingly decide how it should be judged.

I am sure we will have interesting points coming out as we go along!

Originally posted by: jayc1234

i too would say the same. but there needs to b some rules regarding this too. maybe one vote per phone or somethng of that sort. because finally one vote per person may not be physically possible.

yes some system can b made where by eminent people voting may get some rights for grace votes. that way maybe if the public voting becomes biased it can get balanced.

Originally posted by: jayc1234

Very good points Abhi - I think lot of these will be answered as we carry on our discussions this week.

I would suggest - to start off with, based on what you have seen so far - think of an objective of the contest (as in what it is trying to address and what talent is it trying to project) and accordingly decide how it should be judged.

I am sure we will have interesting points coming out as we go along!

It is still vague because

In C 2005, though there was lots of drama.... The contest was focussed on purely singing and just to carry the feel of song

In EMET, the focus was diverted to chemistry and performance

And in Little champs, the focus is again on singing and carrying the feel of song.........

Originally posted by: Jaadoogar

How can you define 60-40 percent judgement in reality? Gajji said it for EMAET but still I could not understand how did he applied that 60-40% theory.

Well Gajji never applied any %age votes in EMAET for sure. It was truely based on public voting.

If you would have followed a program called 'Nach Baliye' in Star One - they had this concept of 50% judges decision, 50% viewers decision. So based on judges marks, they would rank the contestants. Again based on the public vote, they would again rank the contestants. The final rank of the contestant is an average of both the ranks. That balances out very well.

In this case, I am just saying that have a little more weightage to the judges ranking rather than the public ranking. Sounds possible? Yes?