DOTW - SRGMP Contests: Who should judge? - Page 5

if people want both... famegurukul way is best...thejudges decide who performed the worst and put them in the bottom 2or 3

only these contestants' fate lies with the janta ,as a sort of punishment
Of the 2 or 3, the one who gets least votes is eliminated,after all that contestant didnt appeal either to the judges or janta.
...the talented performing ones are thus protected...

please no contestant voting..that was the most wretched part of fg 🤢 🤢

However Fame Gurukul produced the worst singer but nice performer.....

I believe in one theory to get optimum result

For non punjabi participants: Get Daler Mehndi, consider only his marks
and Panjabi participants: get any bengali, consider only his marks

Originally posted by: kabhi_21

However Fame Gurukul produced the worst singer but nice performer.....

I believe in one theory to get optimum result

For non punjabi participants: Get Daler Mehndi, consider only his marks
and Panjabi participants: get any bengali, consider only his marks

agreed..but in public voting when does the best singer win?😕..every body agrees that nihira,arijit singh,karunya,or rahul shd have won in the respective competitions

so JUDGES are a better bet...

I too have said that it shouldbe the judges who pick, thru out, as they are more musically inclined, than the general public.

However once we have the top 2 than i think public involvement shouldbe allowed. since these are the people to listen to these singers/buy their albums.
what u think ?

Originally posted by: ankita31

agreed..but in public voting when does the best singer win?😕..every body agrees that nihira,arijit singh,karunya,or rahul shd have won in the respective competitions

so JUDGES are a better bet...

Agreed to your point on the most deserving singer losing out on all the occassions.

But a judges decision will also not be perfect all the time. Give the veto power to judges and they use it for SI! Why? Musical reasons? No!

Ankita - your point was perfectly valid if all these competitions claimed that their aim was to get the best singer only.

Whether I or you like it or not, these competitions aim at getting the best packaged singer! Whether we like it or not, showbiz is the name of the game! Hrishikesh was arguably the best singer in EMAET, but was not fit for the format of the show!

If we go back to the old format of the show, the SRGM days, yes may be leaving it the judges was the best... We got Parthiv Gohil and Md. Vakil from the show. But competitive that today's world is - there is a FG in Sony and probably a similar thing in Star.. If they offer the glam and the buzz, may be the singers will get attracted to that more... And that will be unfortunate for SRGMP!

So, I guess mixed mode of judgement is best... I will not agree to the FG format too... we all know how Qazi was saved week after week by the people inspite of him being the weakest.. Had we left some judgement to the judges, atleast Qazi would not have been the winner of the show! And as you said, contestant voting, that was 🤢

Originally posted by: charades

I am with you in this Soumya.

No Public Voting for sure...Just Judges it is their responsibility to bring out the best of the lot.

"Too many cooks spoil the broth" Folks.....and we have seen this in each and every Talent Show....Some goes on looks, Some goes on popularity, Some goes on regional basis and we have seen all kinds of drama when Public are involved.....Tomorrow you will only see them on concerts performing infront or stage but most of the time Singer is behind the screen so just concentrate on their Singing aspect and nothing else...

Fyi:

Last week's discussion on IF SRGMP can be taken as a best example.

Verdict belongs to Judges as they have earned their right. 👍🏼

VJ - to get the best singer (and singer alone) - yes learned people from musical field are the best judges...

But lets face it, today there are tooo many singers in the industry and too many talent hunt shows.. For sure all of them cannot make it to playback singing... The best they will do is playback for a few movies, churn out a couple of albums and then fade out! Concerts is where they will earn their living.. I know its a reality I do not like, but its a fact! If that be so, audience connecticvity to an extent is necessary.

Thatw why I would say - let both have an equal say. Where the audience is totally going wrong on music and voting for all extraneous factors - let the power of judges be the balancing factor

Originally posted by: ankita31

we want the most deserving child to be the winner without any bias.i would like a tougher format too,with semiclassical,pure vocal withoutaccompanying instruments etc....

A very good point raised Ankita - for sure we need the rounds to be tougher.

Till last week I was suprised that a lil champs competition did not even feature a kids theme based round! Thank God, atleast they did that in the parents special episode..

As for classsical/semi-classical episodes, its been ages I have seen that in SRGMP 😭 That would have probably just distinguished the best out of the rest...

And that is why it makes you think all the more probably - these competitions do not just want to select the best singer afterall 😕

IMO, the 50-50 weightage should be used from the beginning till the end of the show. 50% Expert Opinion and 50% Layperson Opinion. It should not be lopsided ...eg. 60% Judges and 40% Public, with 100% Public at the end.

Bias arises when people use ONLY public voting or ONLY expert opinion. Thats the problem with most of these shows - they dont have a fair mix of both aspects.

Originally posted by: Jaadoogar

Actually we are confused here, first of all we need to know what is the purpose of SRGMP competition. Ofcourse earlier version were inclined towards perfection in music, and classical music singers won so many times. But none of them are known to public that much now. As we saw there are only two name which Zee or SRGMP mention every time are Kunal Ganjwala and Shreya Ghoshaal, who are not classical singer. I did not see SRGMP called any of past winner who were classical singers as guest judge. To me purpose of SRGMP has been shifted but still it is trying to balance in between. I am giving one example of popularity of voting system. How many of you were coming to this SRGMP section when there was no voting? There were very few, Some might be coming to read but did not participate in discussion. There was PMahesh to give update, very less movement on the forum and once voting started there was like flood of people here. It is unfortunate, quality of music has gone down but sticking with old style will take us nowhere. How many of you watching Hockey instead of Cricket. I remeber my father did not watch cricket but always watched Hockey and Football but I do not watch hockey but cricket. Time is changing very fast and we need to change ourselves to remain competitive in this era.

I agree that not many participants were there.........I also agree public voting made the shows very popular........

Here is the catch........when we say that we are saying that the program has become entertainment program and does not care about the talent hunt at all........

Is that the purpose

no......The purpose is talent hunt...... Hence to keep it popular we need to have 50 % weightage to public and 50% to judges to keep the purpose alive

Originally posted by: jayc1234

'SRGMP contests - should judges and viewers have an equal say on the results?'

Yes. - The viewers might bring out a mojor point in judging that the Judges may have missed