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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: qwertyasdfgh



Its there in the song "Hamari yaad aayegi"..... 😊

But CB without Asha I wonder what would happen to the wonderful OPN songs... Lata surely wouldnt be able do any justice to those...!!

thx!!! will google it. but if cant find it will have to request someone for it...

btw, does someone else also find those old songs sounding very different. if so, is it the singer or is it the technology tat's creating that effect? i wld run away from that sound as a kid but find tremendous appeal in it now... also, i might get hammered for this, but isnt some of it actually nasal sounding, tho' it sounds great? seriously!

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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: Iron

me , qwerty & Rahul..all agree on one aspect must be a miracle 😆 😆 😉

how remote is that possibility?😆

btw, anyone know whether the other song is from aah or awaara? have very fond memory of that song- my first puppy crush on a female crooner who sang it on my 10th bday. she lasted maybe all of 3 hrs, but left a distinct impression. so now i have to know, whether it's awaara or aah. anyone?

gnite iron.

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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: qwertyasdfgh



since u mentioned it listen to

1. suraiyya's dhakte dil ki tamanna from shama.. The echo effect is amazing.
2. Dilraj kaurs .. tum agar bhul bhi jao toh yeh hak hai tumko..
3. Jeet hi lenge baazi hum tum....from shola auar shabnam..

all belong to same group.... there are still many...

thanks a ton! hope to find them on the net...

that awaara song, if it is lata, surely doesnt sound like her...

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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: Swar_Raj

Punjini ji

it is a good MD that establishes a singer. Once singer gets an identity then becomes a star and has to maintain his/her standards....this is what happened with Asha.

She got break with OP and SD followed him when pissed off at Lata like him. If singers made MD then lata had doen it by refusing to sing for a new MD. But a good md is succesful. And yes they both have produced jems with Asha. But still OP stand first to given more quality work with Asha then any one else. SD went back to lata but he did not.

His aatitude and comments do not make him less talented. If Asha was ever insulted..today she has reached to a point where what she says becomes a fact...but has never said any thing. Why her any on has never opposed him or said he was harrrassing them sexually. He was open. If as a women they want to please him..he was ok and if as a talent you want to please him, he was ok. His comment s do not said he forced them to work with him or to be with him just to please him ..........i am sure you know what i mean. So why is to blame..just because he admits it in public.


Hi Swar Raj, so you are saying that OPN offered women singers two options - one to please him with their voices and the other to please him with other things. Mutually exclusive choices, is it? Of course, he wouldn't force himself on any woman directly or indirectly.

When he says he led a fast life; women and wine had to be a part of his evenings, it means that he was a decent man who offered two choices to his women. If penniless women singers chose the option of pleasing him with other services, they are bad women, but he is a gentleman composer, isn't he?
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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: Iron

Querty ..totaly agree with you. As per me composition of music is the major factor. OP and SD music speaks for itself. Any one singing to that music could be hit. 👏



By your logic, Joyeeta or Banjyotsna can sing OP Nayyar songs, and they would still be hits, isn't it?

Mahendra Kapoor singing OP Nayyar songs sounds as good as Mohd Rafi?
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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: chatbuster



After the applause dies down, can someone try to think why Asha does not recognise OPN? Could it be because something happened between them which was very hurtful? How many of you will go about giving credit to someone who has been hurtful to you? Everyone knows the bitter parting they had. It is silly to keep harping that Asha did not recognise OPN when there could be personal reasons.

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Posted: 19 years ago
Dear Punjini-ji:

I guess the question is does OP Nayyars fondness for women and wine make
him a bad musician in any way?

Perhaps some would disapprove of his weaknesses-of-the-flesh, but is it
valid to criticize his music on *that* basis?
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Posted: 19 years ago
Hi Sangeeta, if you read all my postings you will not ask this question. Can you quote me where I have said his music was bad?
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Posted: 19 years ago
His music is great no question on that and all his great creation of music.
Nayyar-Asha

Woh Haseen Dard De Do — Humsaaya
Aao Huzoor Tumko — Kismet
Yeh Hai Reshmi Zulfon — Mere Sanam
Yehi Woh Jagah Hai — Yeh Raat Phir Na Aayegi
Zara Haule Haule Chalo — Sawan Ki Ghata

And others

Mera Naam Chin Chin Choo (Howrah Bridge) — Geeta Dutt
Babuji Dheere Chalna (Aar Paar) — Geeta Dutt
Yeh Hai Bambai Meri Jaan (CID)— Mohd Rafi and Geeta Dutt
Yun Toh Humne (Tumsa Nahi Dekha) — Mohd Rafi

It he who started to discredit Asha ji and this got started in early 70 Looks like his point is ASHA ji is nobody with out his music. My thought that he lost his success because of RDB so that is why his Hate-ration is still there. One think is fact that you need two too tango as much you need a good MD at the same token you also need a good singer undoubtedly it was Asha ji.
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Posted: 19 years ago

Rhythm King O P Nayyar turns 80

Arnab Banerjee

New Delhi, January 16, 2006

Indian film music lovers need not be formally educated to appreciate the haunting evergreen pieces of music of some of the great masters. Some composers with their unique distinguishing features in their styles have left an indelible impression on our minds. While melody rules for some composers, some other music directors' dependence on instruments is clearly evident.

But then music can never be the same-sounding notations of various combinations and permutations, though technically, aren't we all

structuring the seven notes - Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Dha Ni (or Do Re Mi Fa So La Ti in western music ) together? It's merely seven notes making all the difference. But nevertheless, despite the best of efforts, some musical pieces enchant while others turn pedestrian. Or less inspiring.

Since music has always been an integral part of Indian cinema, particularly Hindi films, composers of the past to the present give it their all as they compose songs to cater to the demands of innumerable listeners across the country or make tailor-made numbers to suit the situational settings in films. The 50s and the 60s saw many stalwarts sway the popularity charts in their favour with SD Burman, Naushad, Shankar Jaikishen, Roshan, Salil Choudhury, Hemant Kumar, Madan Mohan and others ruling the film music scene in Mumbai.

One composer, who stood out for his distinctive style and instinctive melody, was OP Nayyar. The clip-clop sound created by the hooves of horses galloping is typical of his characteristic music used to great advantage in films. He also brought the folk and the lilt of modernity in perfect sync with each other and created what could perhaps be called the foremost to have a distinct and identifiable individuality. His mode and technique to this date, have not been replicated. He earned himself the epithet 'Rhythm King' for his inimitable and exclusive brand of music. And remains unparalleled.

Born Onkar Prasad Nayyar in Lahore in 1926, he moved to Patiala soon and started his journey as an assistant with the All India Radio in Jalandhar. His love for music was so ardently passionate that he dropped out of college to compose music. His family shifted from Lahore to Amritsar after partition and in the year 1949, he came to Mumbai and met the producer-director Krishan Kewal, who was impressed with his talent and offered him his first break. Thus his career started with scoring the background music for Kaneez. The same year the music company, HMV, also released his compositions Pritam aan milo and Kaun nagar tera door thikana.

In Delhi Nayyar was introduced to director Dalsukh M. Pancholi by a close friend, who gave him his break as an independent composer in the film Aasmaan. It was followed by films like Chham Chhama Chham and Guru Dutt's Baaz. Lady Luck smiled on him when Santoshi dropped the then most sought-after music director Naushad and signed him instead. Around the same time, Guru Dutt too opted for him. But the films flopped badly and he was ready to pack his bags and leave for Amritsar where his parents lived. Fortunately for him, Guru Dutt's Aar Paar was a major hit and later on they worked together in Mr and Mrs.55.

Thereafter there was no looking back.

In the late 50s, his songs from films include Tumsa Nahin Dekha, Miss Coca Cola, Baap Re Baap, C.I.D, Aarpaar, Sone Ki Chidiya, Phagun, Howrah Bridge etc. created sensation with their strong western influence and yet original melodies. Any music aficionado would recall Mera naam Chin Chin Choo in Geet Dutt's velvety, sexy voice as the ultimate siren tone from Howrah Bridge. Or Piya piya na lage mora jiya and Ek pardesi mera dil le gaya from Phagun. He also scored the music for Shammi Kapoor's hit film, Kashmir Ki Kali, the songs of which are still a rage. Deewana hua badal or Isharon isharon mein or Balma khuli hawa are evergreen numbers.

Nayyar's music for many 1950's films like Baaz, Aar Paar, Mr and Mrs 55 and P.L.Santoshi 's Cham Chama Cham and Kardar's Baap Re Baap have earned him the status of a legend in the industry. Another of his bar songs Aaiye meherbaan… from Howrah Bridge is an all-time favorite among all generations and is played at discotheques as numerous remixes are circulating in the market.

If Nayyar is immortal, so are his personal favorites - Mohammad Rafi and Asha Bhosle. As playback singers they delivered whatever was expected of them – particularly Asha Bhosle. His glory would perhaps have been incomplete without her lilting rendition of his compositions, though he did compose some of his best works with two of the most naturally gifted singers - Shamshad Begum and Geeta Dutt, who were not trained the way Bhosle is but remained his favorite for long till he diverted all his focus on Bhosle. Since she was emotionally involved with him she did become his muse. Their personal close relationship resulted in a strong professional bonding as well. Some of her sensuous numbers composed by him are Aaiye meherbaan and Yeh hai reshmi zulfon ka andhera from Mere Sanam.

Rafi too poured his heart out and walked away with his pulsating energy in the songs with rare aplomb and charisma.

Nayyar is also spoken of as 'the man' who never worked with the 'nightingale – Lata Mangeshkar. By his own admission, he thought Mangeshkar's voice didn't suit his style although rumors were rife about Lataji's infamous grouse against her sibling's love interest those days. Whatever be the reason, fans of both lost an opportunity forever of listening their musical union.

In Asha's repertoire there are many songs that have been marked in history as everlasting. And more than 50 of her career best have been Nayyar's compositions. Maang ke saath tumhara, Aao huzoor tumko, Aaj koi pyar se, Woh haseen dard de do, Aaja mere pyar ke sahare, Zara haule haule chalo mere saajna,, Jaiye aap kahan jayenge, Chain se humko kabhi are some of the rare gems that have become immortal over the years and even after repeated listening, one doesn't tire of playing them again. He scaled an unprecedented high whenever he teamed with her. The last of the Asha - Nayyar combinations were Sambandh, Ek Baar Muskura Do and Pran Jaye Par Vachan Na Jaye.

Just like the way he became Asha's mentor, who can ever forget Rafi's Banda parvar, Aap ke haseen rukh pe, Tariff karoon kya uski, Lakhon hai nigahon nein, to name a few that have the stamp of Nayyar's brilliance and Rafi's incomparable range?

He once fell out with Rafi but managed to conjure memorable songs even with Mukesh who sang Chal akela in Sambandh, Mahendra Kapoor who sang one of his best, Lakhon hai yahan dilwale and Kishore Kumar in Ek Baar Muskura Do - Tu auron ki kyon ho gayee.

Surprisingly, Nayyar was not formally trained in classical music but his sense of rhythm and special ability to blend melody with the regularity of beat and tempo was more than incidental. It was perhaps innate too. He did study music for a while but most of it was imbibed as a natural talent. He combined Punjabi folk tunes with peppy popular tunes in the classical meter to create a comprehensible feel among music lovers. And music buffs reveled in his compositions. He also created some of the most remembered classical tunes and made good use of classical talents - Jogiya Mere Ghar Aaye from the film Raagini in Ustad Aamir Khan's voice. Ustad Raeez Khan enchants us with his sitar in Jayiye Aap Kahaan Jaayenge in the film Mere Sanam, Manohari Singh played the saxophone in Hai Duniya Usiki from the film Kashmir Ki Kali, Sardar Hazaara Singh played the electric guitar in Lakhon Hai Yaha Dilwale from the film Kismat.. And in another classic moment, an enjoyable sarangi interlude by Pandit Ram Narain graces the songs Aana Hai To Aa from the film Naya Daur and Bekasi Had Se Jab Guzar Jaye from the film Kalpana.

After his break up with Asha, he was shattered, it is believed, and he could not recreate the same magic with other singers. He did make a comeback with Krishna Kalle in a few films, and later with Runa Laila in a private album but the results were not the same. In fact they were disastrous. He also used Kavita Krishnamurthy and Anuradha Paudwal's voices in a few films Nishchay and Zid which he did at the fag end of his career, but they too earned a lukewarm response.

Evidently it was the master without his muse in a creative vacuum.

Nayyar is still active though not as a musician anymore. His rare appearances on television shows as a judge or a special invitee is something viewers cherish.

We pray to God to grant him many more years of health and wish him all the best for a peaceful and happy life.


Edited by Qwest - 19 years ago

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