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Posted: 19 years ago
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I agree Sinhaji. It takes so much effort and talent to come up with original music and especially in those days they did not have computerized mixing, digital technology, so they had to rehearse over andover and come up with the perfect tune with a bare minimum harmonium, and then somebody else just comes and adds a few digital syncs and make it a song, and with extremely bad and in some cases vulgar interpretation of songs is really an insult to the original MD and the singers. I think Lataji and Ashaji have expressed their dissatisfaction about this matter several times.

But those who do it, give this take that at least the younger generation that way will remember these old tunes and appreciate it. I dont necessarily agree with that, ofcourse I am old school.
Even SonuNigam I think came up with a remix with that song with Diya MIrza (unable to remember, sudden loss of memory) and so badly picturised.
But I guess we live in an era of remixes because everyone wants instant gratification, money and fame.
In an interview Shankar Mahadevan says that the remixes is a phase and prettysoon public will get bored of it. But I live in US and the youngsters here love it. Makes me annoyed, but then what can you do? that is the closest theyget to Indian film music.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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A very well written post, Niraj ji and musicpulse ji...
👏

I totally agree with your views on the subject.

Another thing...
Very rarely is the composer credited for the original composition. Usually (as I've seen), its DJ xxx/DJ yyy...
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Idhar UK me bhi bura haal hai , remix and rap rule the roast, I'm aghast to see the 2nd gen NRI kids they are nither here nor there.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: autmother

I agree Sinhaji. It takes so much effort and talent to come up with original music and especially in those days they did not have computerized mixing, digital technology, so they had to rehearse over andover and come up with the perfect tune with a bare minimum harmonium, and then somebody else just comes and adds a few digital syncs and make it a song, and with extremely bad and in some cases vulgar interpretation of songs is really an insult to the original MD and the singers. I think Lataji and Ashaji have expressed their dissatisfaction about this matter several times.

But those who do it, give this take that at least the younger generation that way will remember these old tunes and appreciate it. I dont necessarily agree with that, ofcourse I am old school.
Even SonuNigam I think came up with a remix with that song with Diya MIrza (unable to remember, sudden loss of memory) and so badly picturised.
But I guess we live in an era of remixes because everyone wants instant gratification, money and fame.
In an interview Shankar Mahadevan says that the remixes is a phase and prettysoon public will get bored of it. But I live in US and the youngsters here love it. Makes me annoyed, but then what can you do? that is the closest theyget to Indian film music.

The Sonu Nigam and Diya Mirza song is "kajara mohabbatwala", thats the one I have mentioned too.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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heheheheheheheeee..........

chalo over & out pls respond to mails mp .
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Posted: 19 years ago
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yup sb bye.... 😉 appointment hai Madonna ke saath.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: ab_srgmp

If the remixes are tastefully done, they can be enjoyed, but most of the remixes these days kills the melody, feeling and innocence of the original songs.

They just make them into dance-beats, and the original song is takes more of a background role. Don't even get me started on the videos...very cheap!

One song comes to mind that the remix was good :
Dil kya kare jab kissi ko (From Julie: Re done by /Shaan)

I guess this wouldn't really qualify as a remix (more of a case of being sung by a different artist)



exactly i agree with you. but sometimes i just hate remixes because there is a really good song and they change it into some crap!!! oh and then videos..... to much!!! all girls standing almost naked and everything.....its too much for everyone they are ruining the reputation of the original song.... i mean there is no good for it and believe me i am no adult but a teenager born and brought up in the US by indian standards.....
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Absolutely on dot Niraji. Well written…. 👏
I am one of the remix hater too
Who ever said that they are reviving yester year songs…..they need to really look back at their work and question themselves …
Its pathetic to listen to them and suicidal to watch the video ( one example: 'Kanta laga")
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Niraj:

Great topic. Have been wanting this topic since that silly remix episode.

Well Shamshad Begum has had a resurgence in this remix era (Kajra
Mohobatwalla; Leke Pehla Pehla Pyar; Kabhi Aar Kabhi Par; Saiyan Dil
Mein)

In the US, there are covers and remixes all the time and people love it
because when their song is covered they get a royalty on the sales of the
remix. I would not mind remixes if the owners of the songs would be
compensated for use of the song. In rap music, there is often sampling
of other tunes for a rift. Again, the owner of the song being sampled
must give consent and is usually compensated.

So the question is who owns the song? Of late, it seems like the producer
does - -example is the dhoom machale song which was used on
ringtones ad nauseum. Pritam (the MD) complained that he was not at all
compensated while Yash Raj made a ton of money.

If the owner of the song is being compensated and has consented then
there are no moral or legal issues in my mind. The question is who owns
these songs?

Legal issues aside (see http://www.indianembassy.org/policy/ipr/
ipr_2000.htm), rarely do I see an improvement to the songs. But there
are exceptions. I thought that the Noorie redo was interesting. Is Aaja
Nachle a remix? I thought that ABA and Woh Lamhe remixes were good.

I generally hate the covers of songs like Kajra because they are never
better. I love the original with Asha and Shamshad. Raghav does some
sampling of old Shamshad songs and I know a lot of people like him but I
find his songs inspid.


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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: MusicIsDivine

Thank you Sinhaji and MusicPulse for this excellent write-up. Good topic - just like everything foreign was made a bon fire of in the pre-independence days, everyone should make a bon fire of the re-mix CDs/tapes on Holi day. Wouldn't that be nice? Pardon the strong feelings. I couldn't help it.

Infact let the kids listen to the remixes, so that they will value the originals more😉.BTW, a bonfire is a very tempting idea😆

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