My heart goes out to Debojit: Article - Page 21

Originally posted by: adwarakanath

Sarahji, age limit = minimum age required to enter...not top limit 😉 😉 😉 .

No vinit fan has made a coheret contribution here, sarahji.

😆thanks please no sarahJI.. else i will call u adwarkanathJI too😉

Originally posted by: amarendu

assamindia and ComeOn123, let's agree to disagree. I doubt your intellectual and emotional growth, so let me arrange my priorities!!!

I can't agree more Amarenduji.Thank u very much for posting the aricle here 👏 .
If Vinit wins which is not possible unless his accursed mentor tries his best to manipulate and make him win,I request him to do something for the country.His loyal supporters need some'grey cell transplant' immediately.
Hope he does the needful 😉 .

Originally posted by: adwarakanath

How come we never noticed it?

No one said anything when Paresh (who actually is quite besura) was still in the competition. He's a UK citizen. So is Swananda (who, by the way, is a fantastic singer).

Here are my views -

1) Apologise to the public
2) Get judges...and good judges. Not jokers like Daler Mahendi and Sameer
3) Set an age limit of 23 for boys and 20 for girls.
4) Classical training of atleast 7 years should be a criterion
5) Mentor system is a MUST. But throw out rascals like AS and HR. IMHO, the mentors should be -
ARR, ID, Deobajyoti Mishra, J-L.
6) No public voting please
7) Instruct Shaan not to use region-based nicknames
8) Don't get mentors who're allergic to old songs...like HR. And do give the contestants freedom of choice. Don't say you cant select old songs. Old songs are the soul of Hindi music and they test your skill.
9) Rigourous eliminations - semiclassical, raga based (yes, there's a difference), rock based, jazz based, hip-hop, pop, beat oriented, mand-madhyam-taar saptak oriented songs, slow, fast songs...etc.

am against the idea of "rigorous eliminations" for following reason: you could end up eliminating singers who excel in say 3 out of 4 aspects, while giving the green to singers who are above average in all 4. in hindsight, this is the kind of arbitrariness that has happened in earlier rounds with C2005 where some very good singers got eliminated.

in life, it is often your ability to scale the peaks that counts, whether its a JEE entrance exam or a presidential election. you sort of have to be the best at whatever you do, in this case with whatever genre you take up. who's interested in listening to an above average performer in a certain genre when you can "buy" different performers, each of whom is best in their respective area.

i also think that "best" in music is a very subjective thing. somewhat like answering who is the most beautiful woman in the world. its not math. there are emotions and various other factors that together make up the total package.

having judges is ultimately reverting to a thinking which says you should hand over power to a dictator or a coterie of them. i agree that democracy and public voting are riddled with problems, but the alternatives are worse. the potential for mischief on the part of judges is there, and one judge can mistakenly tip the (musical) scales in favor of an unworthy contestant.

ultimately, you have to first define what the objective is. do you want a good all-round singer, or someone who is the best in his/ her best category. also whether you are looking for an all-round performer or a performer that you will not watch live...

For me at least, a lot of the entertainment that saregama that has provided over the years is actually seeing the folks perform. but as soon as you do that, you have to know that even judges can get swayed by the non-audio factors. for me, the power of TV is you can both see and hear and like it or not, we are interested in the visual impact as well. if and when i want to just hear, there is the stereo system....

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Originally posted by: PIPC

I can't agree more Amarenduji.Thank u very much for posting the aricle here 👏 .
If Vinit wins which is not possible unless his accursed mentor tries his best to manipulate and make him win,I request him to do something for the country.His loyal supporters need some'grey cell transplant' immediately.
Hope he does the needful 😉 .

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Well said, PIPC. And by the way, he himself will need a nose transplant too...too much of nasal undertone in his singing off late....so irritating to hear that over and above his unoriginal sytle.

Originally posted by: amarendu

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Well said, PIPC. And by the way, he himself will need a nose transplant too...too much of nasal undertone in his singing off late....so irritating to hear that over and above his unoriginal sytle.

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I agree with you Adwarkanathji that we have to try to groom the future talents. As mentioned, versatility is the keyword.

Sure there can be no Kishore., Lata, Rafi or Asha but we still have to try an give a platform to the budding singers who will serve our music industry for a long time to come.

Our country is full of talents...and we have to keep on encouraging such hidden talents through such kind of programmes irrespective of whether he is from East, West, North or South.

At the same time we should be careful about such disturbing forces as HR and AS who are allergic to an Assamese voice being crowned as India ki voice.

We have to defeat such forces.

Abhilash (aka Adwarkanath), I did not realise that you are such a young lad (just browsed through your profile). You are 10 years younger to me...but I really would like to salute your passion for music and your knowledge about the nuances of music at such a tender age.

You are a hope to us that there are still people in our younger generation under whom our music, our culture, our sense are in safe hands.

From now on I would lovingly call you Abhi.

Assam's unrelenting ULFA displays its hypocrite face

By Sanjay Kumar, Guwahati : The banned United Liberation Front of Asom or the ULFA unleashed violence through a series of grenade and bomb blasts across the state just before the Republic Day.

The attacks reflect the ULFA's hypocritic face as the peace talks between it and the Central Government are moving in the right direction. Their attacks provoked a strong sense of outrage among the Assamese.

The attacks were targeted in those places, which are important to the country's economy, as the state's refineries are located here.

In Guwahati, several blasts took place in a span of a week. Common people were the worst affected by these nefarious acts of the ULFA, which keeps targeting these installations. For almost two decades now it is these Assamese, who have been bleeding and receiving injuries at the hands of the ULFA, an outfit that claims to represent the interest of the Assamese society.

"What is happening is not right...and it shouldn't happen," said one of the injured.

The blasts come at a time when the center-initiated talks with the ULFA are still going on. The next rounds of talks are to be held just two weeks later with People's Consultative Group or the PCG, which consists of representatives from the civil society appointed by the ULFA. The ULFA has shown its complete outrage with the people of the state by attacking and blowing up gas pipelines and other economic installations.

Assam Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi said: "Civil society today is fed up, nobody wants the state or the country to be disturbed. The disturbances lead to the backwardness of Assam, it creates an unemployment problem, so there is a realization that peace should come as early as possible."

The Assamese artistes who were in Delhi to take part in the Republic Day celebrations were horrified when they heard about the blasts. Such blasts are a cruel reminder of the Dhemaji blasts of 2004 during the Independence Day celebrations that claimed the lives of several school children.

"We have terrorist party ULFA. They have been disturbing us but in our country we don't like all these things. There must be unity in diversity. We don't like violence," said Nayandevi, one of the artists from Assam, who was in the capital to participate in Republic Day celebrations.

Another artist Debojit feels: "This is the business of terrorism.

They think that Assam should separate from India. But we are one. We all are Indian. We should all live together. We want to show to the world that we are not far behind the developed countries, that we do not lack anywhere. Through our Satriya dance and Bihu dance we want to take our culture forward."

It is this image of the state as a centre of a rich culture and tradition that is being aggressively promoted in the recent months. The holding of the Assamese Film Festival in Delhi recently was an attempt in this direction. Assam wants to portray a different image of the state but the ULFA through its violent acts negates these efforts.

"Everybody has come to realize this. We haven't gone forward for the last twenty years now and we are staying where we have been then only because of extremism," said Santwana Bordoloi, Assamese Film Director.

"It has affected our complete growth-economically and study wise also. We have been pushed back almost twenty and thirty years. Out here in Delhi we can see development. But just because of insurgency people are afraid of going there," says Pushkal, an Assamese professional in Delhi.

There is strong resentment among different class against the ULFA, which has hindered the state's development.

Rishi, an Assamese Student in AIIMS Delhi feels: "Of course an extremist group like the ULFA is already marginalized."

It was pressure from the Assamese society for normalcy and overwhelming sentiment against violence that forced the ULFA to send an eleven member People's Consultative Group (PCG) for talks with the Prime Minister last October. But through these blasts the ULFA is sending out mixed signals, which raise the question, whether it is serious about the talks as it claims.

ULFA is bent upon causing serious damage to the economy of the state. Recently it asked for a five hundred crore ransom from the Oil and Natural Gas Limited of the state.


Here's a news article that features Debo's comment on ULFA. The more I read, hear this guy the more soft corner I develop for him.

He is such a nice, sensitive guy - and what all he has to face from his co-participants, other judges 😡 - and after all the storm he still smiles, still performs with true grit, and from his heart.

Debo, God bless you. We all love you.

If this is a genuine quote, my respect for Debojit has increased tremendously. It takes some gonads to put your head out like that. Good job, Debo.

Yet, in the context of SRGMP, the best singer was the one who was just eliminated.

Originally posted by: amarendu

Assam's unrelenting ULFA displays its hypocrite face

Another artist Debojit feels: "This is the business of terrorism.

They think that Assam should separate from India. But we are one. We all are Indian. We should all live together. We want to show to the world that we are not far behind the developed countries, that we do not lack anywhere. Through our Satriya dance and Bihu dance we want to take our culture forward."

Originally posted by: amarendu

assamindia, I agree that this is just a contest. But I guess the questions raised by the whole regionalism issue is not an insignificant one (and Debo being its victim). This is a programme that is not only watched nationally but internationally as well.

If we do not speak up against what is wrong, if we do not speak up against those who perpetuate hatred against a particular part of India, then we are only strengthening their voices.

amarendu, agree with u 100%. debo is the victim and he is a victim of Himesh & vinit & Adeshs' dirty politics.