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Posted: 19 years ago
I had posted my views as well on the whole issue after it was first brought by that lady and animatedly supported by the hypocrites - HR and AS.

Personally, I do feel that Gajji has to blame himself for all that has happened in the show. Given his experience, he should have better known these people who perpetuate divisive thoughts in people's mind. He should have thrown them out long ago and exposed their true colour!

I will be reproducing my views soon.

Please contribute your relevant views too.
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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: amarendu

Me too. Already send him a mail congratulating him on this wonderful article.

Guys, do you think we should jointly write a letter on this whole issue and send it to Zee TV/Subash Chandra? All our views should go across to Gajji, Subash Chandra, and sponsors of this show. I am sure they will give respect to viewers opinions and sentiments.

I Have Already Mailed this thread to Zee SRGMP.

Anyway no harm in sending that again as more number of mails to them can make it stronger.

thx,

Delhi_Guy

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Posted: 19 years ago
Friends, here are excepts from what I had posted before. This might be relevant. Your comments and contributions are welcome to enrich this debate.

Originally posted by: amarendu



Personally I regarded SRGMP in very high esteem than other programmes like FG because I believed they create unnecessary sensationalism to boost up TRP. But the same can be said of this programme now! You have given long footage to topi, pyar drama of a particular contestant (and his mentor) to create sensationalism and yet accuse others of copying this programme!!! Bringing star judges (even ones who are not connected to music or the industry), and making them enact a scripted drama (everyone seemed interested to know more about Vinit's pyar), who is blaming who?

You have allowed contestants to ask for votes in their regional language, brought in judges from a particular region, who can speak good things about their own sect/region's candidate, have published division of votes according to region, now why are you perturbed that someone is sabotaging the show? You have allowed it over time. You have given good footage to the antics of HR...now why are you having sleepless nights? You are equally responsible if the whole regionalism issue has cropped up.

Given your contribution to upholding India's cultural heritage by introducing programmes like SRGM or Antakshari, that are viewed internationally, you deserved to go down as a legend in India's television history. Sadly enough, with all that has happened in SRGMP 2005, your entire reputation and credibility to us is lost. By backing the wrong people, you have only confirmed what others have been saying (that for you 'sabse bada rupaiya'). Your sense of good music, good artiste is lost. The way Himesh has conducted himself, episode after episode, you should have thrown him out of the programme long ago.

The only way out is to respect our emotions...and render an apology for whatever wrong-doing you have done, and heed our demand to expose the mentor(s) who is (are) behind all this. You have said that you will
do so once the final ends. We demand that you expose him/them now (not only on the programme but also across news channels), and give much greater footage and publicity to his/their manipulative ways.


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Posted: 19 years ago
Just a few suggestions:

1. The guru-shisya format is commendable. But do not allow the gurus to vote or comment on their students. Instead, make a panel of eminent judges comprising of eminent musicians (who have atleast 10 years of experience in the film industry; and throw out BS people like Himesh and Aadesh), classical and playback singers, eminent lyricists (not the ones who writes cheap lyrics like Sameer), and directors who are also known for their great musical sense (like Sanjay Leela Bansali).

2. Make it a singing contest (and not a soap opera) that tests all aspects of a singer's capabilities, and cut out all dramabazi. Earlier format of SRGM tested that by putting the contestants through taal round, judge's choice round, regional songs round, etc. Bring those back to the contest in the preliminary and semi-final rounds.

3. For the top 4 finalists (2 male, 2 female), create a panel of 10 judges comprising of legends like Lataji, Ashaji, Manna Dey, Jagjit Singhji, Gulzar Saab, Javed Akhtar saab and two respected current day music directors (like A.R.Rehman), and two topmost current generation of singers (like udit Narayan, kavita, or Alka) and put them to test through more rigorous and innovative rounds.

4. Cut all the crap about performance. The motive should be find a good male and female voice (not a dancer who can also sing) that will serve the industry for a long time to come.

5. Only for top 4 contestants fighting in the final, introduce public voting besides being judged by the eminent panel. In that way, the public also feels involved and attached with your programme.

6. So we can have two prizes - one judges choice and the other popular choice.

Sincerely hope that GS takes some lesson out of his experience in Challenge 2005, and gift us a better show next time.

To salvage whatever reputation/credibility is left on the current show, expose the culprits asap. We demand truth, and only the truth!
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Posted: 19 years ago
I support what Dwarka bhai has told just now.

SaReGaMaPa is in a complete mess just because of these two people. AS and HR. There has to be a end to this. Otherwise we shall have to pay our last tributes to of the greatest musical programmes of all times.
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Posted: 19 years ago

6. So we can have two prizes - one judges choice and the other popular choice.

Great one dude...
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Posted: 19 years ago
This thread is becoming awesome Man!!!!!!!!!

Thanks ADWARK jiii for such a valuable suggestion..!! 👏 👏
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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: adwarakanath

How come we never noticed it?

No one said anything when Paresh (who actually is quite besura) was still in the competition. He's a UK citizen. So is Swananda (who, by the way, is a fantastic singer).

Here are my views -

1) Apologise to the public
2) Get judges...and good judges. Not jokers like Daler Mahendi and Sameer
3) Set an age limit of 23 for boys and 20 for girls.
4) Classical training of atleast 7 years should be a criterion
5) Mentor system is a MUST. But throw out rascals like AS and HR. IMHO, the mentors should be -
ARR, ID, Deobajyoti Mishra, J-L.
6) No public voting please
7) Instruct Shaan not to use region-based nicknames
8) Don't get mentors who're allergic to old songs...like HR. And do give the contestants freedom of choice. Don't say you cant select old songs. Old songs are the soul of Hindi music and they test your skill.
9) Rigourous eliminations - semiclassical, raga based (yes, there's a difference), rock based, jazz based, hip-hop, pop, beat oriented, mand-madhyam-taar saptak oriented songs, slow, fast songs...etc.

Nice rules for SRGMP Challenge 2006. maybe shankar-ehsan-loy could also be judges. they rock too!

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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: adwarakanath

How come we never noticed it?

No one said anything when Paresh (who actually is quite besura) was still in the competition. He's a UK citizen. So is Swananda (who, by the way, is a fantastic singer).

Here are my views -

1) Apologise to the public
2) Get judges...and good judges. Not jokers like Daler Mahendi and Sameer
3) Set an age limit of 23 for boys and 20 for girls.
4) Classical training of atleast 7 years should be a criterion
5) Mentor system is a MUST. But throw out rascals like AS and HR. IMHO, the mentors should be -
ARR, ID, Deobajyoti Mishra, J-L.
6) No public voting please
7) Instruct Shaan not to use region-based nicknames
8) Don't get mentors who're allergic to old songs...like HR. And do give the contestants freedom of choice. Don't say you cant select old songs. Old songs are the soul of Hindi music and they test your skill.
9) Rigourous eliminations - semiclassical, raga based (yes, there's a difference), rock based, jazz based, hip-hop, pop, beat oriented, mand-madhyam-taar saptak oriented songs, slow, fast songs...etc.

agreed to most.. but y boys get to enter till 23 and girls only 20?? y gender bias??😉

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Posted: 19 years ago
abhilash looks like u ve been in this thread for long.. can u tell me whether any of the 'i luv vinit'fans ve commented on this thread as yet??if not they definitely ve selective vision!!!

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