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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think doing some thing first time has to be respected. You can always copy a painting but that does not mean you are better than the original artist. Even though singers get help from composers to compose a song but it is definitely different than singing the same song again.
Lata ji also said singing an original is very different from copying a song. That is why she wanted the contestants themselves singing original songs.That is the reason she do not like these Muscial competitions.
These MD's will do that act of "touching the ears" when they are remembering their ustaads or renowned musicians. They do not give a damn when it comes to not so popular singers and will make comments like the contestant sang better than the original singer(who is not that popular). These MD's who touch their ears are actually ego maniacs. They will make promises to singers on air to satisfy their egos and and generally won't keep that promise. Only cartoons and not real MD's can do such a thing😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: music_masala

I think doing some thing first time has to be respected. You can always copy a painting but that does not mean you are better than the original artist. Even though singers get help from composers to compose a song but it is definitely different than singing the same song again.

Lata ji also said singing an original is very different from copying a song. That is why she wanted the contestants themselves singing original songs.That is the reason she do not like these Muscial competitions.
These MD's will do that act of "touching the ears" when they are remembering their ustaads or renowned musicians. They do not give a damn when it comes to not so popular singers and will make comments like the contestant sang better than the original singer(who is not that popular). These MD's who touch their ears are actually ego maniacs. They will make promises to singers on air to satisfy their egos and and generally won't keep that promise. Only cartoons and not real MD's can do such a thing😆

i think the same, original is original and should be respected. those who copy may add some beauty or put some polish to the songs they sang which may be pleasant to hear.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I definitely agree with your whatever u said rani & even what music_masala said. Original singer sings the song first in the studio, & these singer donot have any ready made material in hand I mean they are given a fresh composition which they have sing whereas these reality show singers get everything ready made stuff I mean they already have the original song to refer to, they only have to copy paste (some of the singers do add some variations which is quite good) But I think the original singers do much more tougher job. Its okay if the original singer of the song says this to a contestant, but these MD's have no right to take away their credit & insult the original singer.

Another thing I have seen is that these MD's simply keep praising these singers & give standing ovations & say things like "apne original se acha gaya, aap agar mujhe pehle milgaye hote toh main aapse hi record karwata", "Music ke itihaas main, aapka naam amar rahega", "Aapki aawaaz bilkul playback voice hai" & blah blah. I dont understand if these guys are so impressed why dont they give these singers chance to sing for them, after all reality shows these singers disappear or any 2 or 3 rarely manage few songs. I think all these comments are only for the sake of creating hype & increase trps & nothing else.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: music_masala

I think doing some thing first time has to be respected. You can always copy a painting but that does not mean you are better than the original artist. Even though singers get help from composers to compose a song but it is definitely different than singing the same song again.



I agree that if anyone is doing something for the first time it has to be respected. But that doesn't mean someone cannot come after wards and better the work. And there is no harm in saying that the latter work is better. A MD cannot search through every possible singer before he identifies the one who sings his song. A different singer can give a different interpretation to that song which can have greater appeal. It is not a commentary on the original singer .The original singer did the best he could and it was his first time. But you cannot say because it is original, it is the best.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: AkhMastani

Don't take it as a huge insult to the original singers, but as a huge compliment to the contestants.



There are many other ways to compliment a contestant. You don't have to make comparisons to the original singer. Let the contestant shine off their OWN talent and not talent based comparisons to the originals.
That probably made no sense! 😆 But whatever you all know what I mean!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i also get real annoyed when i hear this comment! this is not fair to the original singers who worked hard to sing the song. the contestant probably did a fantastic job, but judges should refrain from comparing to original singers.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sushrutapandey



I agree that if anyone is doing something for the first time it has to be respected. But that doesn't mean someone cannot come after wards and better the work. And there is no harm in saying that the latter work is better. A MD cannot search through every possible singer before he identifies the one who sings his song. A different singer can give a different interpretation to that song which can have greater appeal. It is not a commentary on the original singer .The original singer did the best he could and it was his first time. But you cannot say because it is original, it is the best.

I am not saying if it is the original, it is the best. In our culture, there are certain traditions like ' don't talk bad about a person who is dead because he cannot come and defend himself.But there are no absolutes. People do whatever they feel like. Every body can have their own opinion.It is democracy. I have never heard a Judge/singer telling a contestant "you have sung better than me".
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: music_masala

I am not saying if it is the original, it is the best. In our culture, there are certain traditions like ' don't talk bad about a person who is dead because he cannot come and defend himself.But there are no absolutes. People do whatever they feel like. Every body can have their own opinion.It is democracy. I have never heard a Judge/singer telling a contestant "you have sung better than me".



Saying someone sang better than the original is not an inherently bad comment at least as I view it. I agree that it shouldn't be used for every single ordinary performance but it can be used as a comment when a contestant really deserves it and no original singer need take offense at it. IMO music rendition varies with time, place and mood. The original singer is kind of unfortunate in the sense that a particular rendition of his is locked down for public hearing. Hence the comparisons are inevitable and part of the whole deal. The good thing being an original singer is that people will hear your version a lot more than any other version and that's the voice that sticks most of the time. So it has it's good and bad.

I have heard Shaan tell Mahir on Chote Ustad that he sang better than him (Don title song).
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I agree. At the same time, I believe judges would say anything to boost up votes and positive attention for their gharana. The thing that annoys me the most is when judges say it for the wrong performances 😆
For instance, Suganddha was nothing close to Alisha ji's Kajra re 😕 So Vishal's comment was really unnecessary.

If i can think of any, or at least a performance where that comment would be appropriate .. it would be for Maiya Maiya (Mauli) Her performance preserves the memory of the orig AND gives the song something more with her rendition. 😃
Edited by PimpJuice - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: PimpJuice

I agree. At the same time, I believe judges would say anything to boost up votes and positive attention for their gharana. The thing that annoys me the most is when judges say it for the wrong performances 😆
For instance, Suganddha was nothing close to Alisha ji's Kajra re 😕 So Vishal's comment was really unnecessary.

If i can think of any, or at least a performance where that comment would be appropriate .. it would be for Maiya Maiya (Mauli) Her performance preserves the memory of the orig AND gives the song something more with her rendition. 😃


Every part of your body, heart, mind, soul are burning with the happiness of sugandha and sugandha is really really best of best. I am happy that she is more than original. I am also happy that you are sad. You never said a single word when sajid said that he never listened such voice/song like sniti. Also it does not matter who wins, but ali sher is better than sniti and I never heard such voice before.
IMO sniti is a garbage.
Edited by sunom - 14 years ago

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