The hands you take and the hands you leave Part 63-Updated page 149 - Page 85

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Posted: 7 years ago
I liked y'day's episode.
Sudha's motive is clear. She wants bloodbath and the tears of the LM wasis.The throne is only part of her plan.

Like you were saying Shruthi, love will change the game.Narrotam is not a hardened criminal, he might have gone along with the conspiracy to kill Vatsalya but repeating it for Anami is not in him.

IMO, Vatsalya is dead. I'm going by the visual clues, he's shown as someone who lives in spirit in LM,in the hearts of his family,still binding them together.
He's always looking at the goings in his room from his photo.He comforts his parents ,his sis when they come and cry in his room, when Narrotam stole his cherished things,he was looking from the pic,as if he wouldn't go far with them and his sis caught the thief.

He left behind a bunch of dreams,a vision for the kingdom he inherited.I think, the narrative is to paint him larger than life, an idol for the contenders of the throne to aspire and an inspiration for those grieving for him to continue to live. He has to remain dead.
If they've not foun his body, the investigation would've started with the search for the body. i think, not showing the body and showing a grieving Satrupa was more of creative liberty than a potential plot twist.
I don't think Anami will go back to Benres.She can't exit from the chakravyu.soon Dadi will try to use Adhi to keep her in LM,if at all Vatslaya come back alive.For Dadi she's the Lakshmi who came to their family after so many generations,she won't let her go easily,even if we assume Satrupa only uses her.

P.S- I love the discussion on this thread guys. It's amazing how we perceive things differently & interpret👏


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Posted: 7 years ago


Guys opened the thread for 100epis
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4928620

Looks like we're the only few who care😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
@simran I am fine either ways, vatsalya dead or alive, if alive they will have to show it in a good fashion. It is just that Indian TV shows if they dont show funeral in real sense, it always happens the person will come back 😆😆. It's the specialty of Indian shows
@navya she didnt lose it, we are talking about the way Raksha sutra untied itself when Vatsalya was having accident.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: simran_singh_24



Guys opened the thread for 100epis
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4928620

Looks like we're the only few who care😆


Thanks, simran

I will post there once the regular people have reserved 😊
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Posted: 7 years ago
Shruthi Karna , Arjuna comparison looks good.Anami has not lost the raksha sutra. It broke on the day of Vatsalya's death. But Anami made the sutra again and wore it.His death has been deliberately shown ambiguously, may be to give room for the logical expansion of the serial if they get a chance to do so. At the moment it is immaterial to the story whether he is alive or not.
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Posted: 7 years ago
4/12/2017

The hands you choose and the hands you leave. Look at the offer given to Anami. Get the papers signed by Sudha that she and Narotham has no relation with Baldev, if she does that she will get the oppourtunity to complete Vatsalya dream. If you look one hand against the hands of thousands. If Anami leaves one hand, then she will be able to help thousand hands.

Someone had told when Panchali cried in the infamous hall of dice Bhishma didnt take her side because he thought sacrificing her, leaving her hand was fine to save the hands of thousands. Yes your brain, your ego makes you think that way. Just adhere to existing law, fall in that mud so that everything will be fine.

But Krishna didnt think so, Narayan didnt think so. He held the hand of that one woman leaving every other hand. Reason he knew if he left that hand, then there wont be any creation on this planet. Life will not be there on the planet. Bhishma saw Panchali as Yudhi's wife. Krishna saw her as a chaste woman asking the most rightful question, a woman born out of fire, the woman whose fire of chastity can destroy life on the planet if justice was not delivered to her at the right time. Yes Panchali was Chaste, a very chaste woman. If Narayan had not held her hand and allowed that disrobing just like Gandhari she too held the power to burn anything and everything about that sabha.

Yes when Narayan held that hand, kurushetra happened, all the old sanskaars, keepers of that thought process died in that war. But then life was sustained. New thought process happened. Justice was served.

Just like that today Anami is at cross roads. Yes she can choose vatsalya. But if she chose vatsalya leaving Narotham hand, then you will never get him back. He will completly go to his mother's side. he will want his sister's destruction, the war will be bloodier in which leave heir, life may not exist in LM.

LM wasis has to learn a lot. They have to come out of deal making. Sudha is bad, but whether they want to accept or not Narotham is Baldev son and justice has to happen to him. If Anami has to show in action her principles this is the time to hold Narotham hand or find middle ground so both can happen. But she cannot leave Narotham hand for Vatsalya. Yes she was telling her mother Satrupa gave away her daughter. This is the point of path crossing. Satrupa gave away Anami because in society at that time only son was heir. So between son and daugther she chose son, instead of adhering to what guruji told, which of course was for safety of one heir. Now leaving Narotham is fine as far as societal image goes, because the question will be can you leave your brother hand and choose half brother hand. Sudha has to know why Narotham loves his half sister so much.

The LMwasis or world in general will easily understand if Anami chooses Vatsalya hand, but she will move ahead of Satrupa, she will show circumstances dont define your actions, but truth is, conscience is only and only if she dont leave Narotham hand for Vatsalya. If she doesnt do that, then all her bak bak is just theory. If she has to rise above the mud and become lotus then she will have to show in action a different choice from LMwasis. This is the boundary test, this is the agnipareeksha of Anami.

Coming to Adhiraj. Yes he is suspicious of Sudha and Sudha's body language did give away the fact that she is nervous. Adhiraj did make her nervous. And this is needed so that she makes mistake.

Pujan tells he wants to build taj mahal for Kamini. Does he even realize what he is telling. Taj Mahal was build for a dead wife. So he is going to build something for Kamini post her death.

Story telling to Ladoo. It is the two perspective of two women as far as the leaving Anami goes. But both Anami and Satrupa are connected by Vatsalya. Satrupa says Vatsalya is Anami's Achilles heel. He cannot be Anami Achilles heel. He has to be her strength to support her in the battle against unjust LM rules. For that Anami will have to take some unfavourable decision, not allowing LMwasis to blackmail her in the name of Vatsalya.
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Posted: 7 years ago
One more thing. For Narayan it doesnt matter one hand or thousand hands, he takes that hand which is essential for him to do his duty that is sustenance of life on this planet. And if you follow him, you will also learn this truth, ie it is not about what you see, it is about what you feel and bringing the proof of your feelings to the visual realm. Not making your feelings to accept what is seen. In former you will always get his guidance, while in latter you will have his power. MB itself is testimonial where life sustained, whether it sustained where he gave direction or it sustained where his power was.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Anami should hold Narottam's hand, but make him leave Sudha' s hand. For that to happen she must see the reality of Sudha and her brother. If she does that, I think Satrupa will also hold Narottam's hand.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Adhiraj was too straightforward with Sudha I believe, though he was also quite careful with his words. He casually mentioned Purushottam and made Sudha nervous enough that she slipped up and revealed that he is dead, something she supposedly didn't remember. I feel like I was right in my thought process on Friday. Sudha thought of everything that the LM wasis would do and say, but she forgot two major factors. Now it's actually three. She never thought of what CBI would do. Even Purushottam underestimated CBI. And especially when the CBI wala is the son of an old LM "employee", you need to be extra careful. Adhiraj may be a simple CBI officer, but he's now being coached by Dheeru (indirectly hi sahi).

Ladoo and Poonam share a beautiful bond already. Ladoo is like that only. He's a sweet kid with the right "Banarasi" flavour that Anami keeps harping about. He's not arrogant or ignorant like Anami. He wants to open his mind up to new things. That's what makes it so easy to bond with him. This scene also highlighted the difference between Anami and Ladoo once again. Anami took a while to warm up to Adhiraj and start trusting him, but Ladoo was immediately idolizing Adhiraj and wanting to become like him. I also felt that in the future it will explain how Ladoo will uncover Sudha's truth and bring that out in front of everyone. In his bid to become like his CIB-wala, he will also start confronting the criminals and doing dhaye-dhaye-dhaye to take them out.

Ladoo's story becomes a moment for Anami and Satrupa to let out their thoughts on each other, but yet again Anami refused to hear what Satrupa was saying. At the same time, I do feel that Satrupa was saying more than she actually had ever felt. She never remembered Anami until Guruji reminded her.

Satrupa, Vikram, and Gayatri were wrong to use Vatsalya's dream to bring Anami under their fist. If Anami chooses their offer it'll be only because she knows there is no other way to fulfill Vatsalya's dream, to fulfill the real reason she had stayed behind in Lal Mahal. But if Anami chooses Sudha and Narottam, she will forever lose LM. Even after she finds out their truth and removes them from the house, she will never get LM back. This is going to be a hard choice.

But somewhere I also feel it's a test. Satrupa said it herself. She wants to test Anami's resolve. Is Anami really here to fulfill Vatsalya's dreams and find his murderer or is she here to just annoy her and LM for leaving Anami at birth? The choice lies in Anami's hands. And once she makes her choice, Satrupa will reveal the reality behind this deal.
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Posted: 7 years ago
@Shreya yes it is a hard choice for Anami. I dont think Satrupa has anything against Narotham as she was talking to him on organic farm. But with Sudha yes. Anami cannot leave Narotham or break his trust, because it is after a long time someone is showing some care to Narotham and he is battling head and heart. It is Narotham minus Sudha which at this point is not possible, so we need to see what she does. Or how she is navigating the chakravyuh. Because those were the difficult choices Satrupa faced too, whether in personal life or in business.
Ladoo is really sweet, yes of course, he will unmask Sudha. In his eagerness to imitate Adhiraj.

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