The hands you take and the hands you leave Part 63-Updated page 149 - Page 83

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Posted: 7 years ago
Purushtom looks like an interesting charcter.

I too liked Narrottam's nightmare, he went to warn Anami.👍🏼
And he pulled the same stunt as he did with Vikku by using Vat's memory.
Laddoo's dialogue seems to to foreshadow his role in the upcoming kidnapping😃

So, we heard it frm the horse's mouth, Satrupa is The wife and Sudha is the mistake.I wished Anami saw her parents being harrased by Sudha.
Dhiru is gonna win the game👍🏼
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Posted: 7 years ago
What BD said Satrupa is his wife...wow I am waiting to see DevRupa on this scene. 😳

But Sudha planting the photo for Anami..maybe she misjudged Anami's soch...or she is too smart to move Anami in her guided line. Waiting to know her clear agenda.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Very nice episode today.

Our local LM jasoos busybody is at it again. Poking her nose in places that do not belong. But she came up with Narottam's treasure chest filled with Vatsalya's things. I've found the relationship with Vatsalya and Narottam interesting. Anything that was there was because of Vatsalya. But he never reached out to Avdoot. We see Avdoot torture Narottam, but what was his relationship with Vatsalya exactly ? They were more social equals, acceptable relatives. Did they play together as kids ? Eat breakfast as kids with the family ? No bonding there. Strange.

So Satrupa's mamta comes roaring out towards Ladoo. It's like she held herself back with Anami. Only showed the LM Bahu/Witch side. I love how Ladoo hid himself behind her. Bossy know-it-all sister who is like a second mom is now feeling the sting of rejection. Ladoo said him coming and going was independent of her must have been hard. Nice to see Ladoo thriving. If he is being kidnapped in the future especially those hired by Pujan I pity the poor kidnappers . This kid will do so much harkath they will hand him over without ransom.

It is very interesting Narottam is having dreams of Anami in danger and not Ladoo. Thankfully the bister of LM is dry. Jokes aside, it is very nice to see his concern. Narottam cares, deeply cares for Anami unconsciously and when it comes out consciously is when he will take a stand.

The symbolism of carrom escapes me. Dheeru warned Adhiraj but I still think he knows more, no surprise on seeing Purushottam. Formidable opponent though, walked right in.

Favorite scene is Satrupa, Baldev and Sudha. Nice to know Baldev will stand up for his wife in extreme circumstances. Couldn't help notice how good looking these three people are and what fabulous actors. Their body language says more than dialog.

On the fashion front my new favorite haar of Satrupa is the one she wore with the Orange sari in the Ladoo scene. Like how the chain is carved and the pendant looked very nice too. Did not like the haar worn in the confrontation with Sudha scene.

Edited by Mangothyme - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
@mangothyme by the look of it if Ladoo is kidnapped it will be Baby's day out or Home alone or combination of both. It will not be pain for the kid, but pain for kidnappers, a pain they simply want to get rid off 😆😆. But in the melee Ladoo will get the elusive clue Adhi is searching desperately. Carroms is about the queen, the red pawn which you can take only if you put another pawn in the next strike. So two strikes back to back you need to get to take red and the one who take red or queen wins carrom game. If you look MB to take down Jaydrath the guardian of Chakravyuha, with one arrow Arjun had to not only take down Jaydrath, but also the man who gave him the boon that whoever puts his head on ground that person also will die. Then is bringing ghatkolkach where Karna's shakthi is taken. So in the same day with 2 strikes the power of adharma is taken. And it had to taken like that. If you take queen and if you are unable to do the second strike, the queen is back in the battle, it can go to someone. So the game is 2 strikes, 2 precise attacks back to back. But for this to happen a blow has to be there before that destabilizes the enemy. illusion of sunset, the first one step attack dheeru did on Adhi. Destabilize, back to back attack. Dheeru knows, but he is only giving direction.
@simran Purushottam will be a very good player and it will be not easy for Adhi to pin him down.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Shruthi, nice take on the carrom game.👍🏼
I was wondering about it..
Felt it was another battle front opening up in the Pandey house.
Adhi facing Dhiru directly and Tanya in the middle,playing her own game.
i love the way the position the characters in a scne, make me read more than a simple game.

Carrom is a more transparent game than chess,the one the LM wasisi play.
And it's more fun too, end of the game, Dhiru's kidS happily accepted him as the winner and they all laughed.
No one smirked and walked away plotting next move.😆

Laddoo is a winner in some game and he got a medal to shw off.
Purushtom serving chai to Adhi also makes me wonder, he's gonna help him somehow.
Edited by simran_singh_24 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
Purushotham coming to serve tea Adhiraj means that he also has informers inside CBI.what if Munna is double crossing ? It looked as though purushotham was expecting Adhiraj to see him .
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: usharanganathan

Purushotham coming to serve tea Adhiraj means that he also has informers inside CBI.what if Munna is double crossing ? It looked as though purushotham was expecting Adhiraj to see him .



Usha, Munna joins the league of grey 😆 I was going by symbolism there in the tea serving

I think he's on team Adhi, since he was hand picked by him & was bullied into spying for him.

Pujan has insiders who tip him off, so won't be surprising if PT has a spy too.Narrotam could've told him.
That seemed like a daring move frm, anyway they want to hype the drama for the chase it's ok.

Had a good laugh at his BW style disguise of mole & specs
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Posted: 7 years ago
@simran carrom is open challenge, the same way arjun challenged on day 14. In carrom u decide the path of the striker based on the position of pawn when u get the chance. In chess path is already decided for each pawn. That's the difference of Maya and leela and I love leela because I can choose my path based on present. 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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What an episode. So Sudha is behind what happened to Vatsalya. Yes she wants the kingdom for her son Narotham. For that she is willing to kill. Kill the child of Satrupa. Yes it is the battle of thrones where Vatsalya, Narotham and Avdhoot are there. Where Vatsalya was supposed to get the throne, but the parents of other 2 apparent heirs at every step wanted to eliminate the legal heir for their selfish needs. Yes the battle was justified for them. To go any length to get the throne. The problem was all their plans failed in front of a woman called Satrupa.
She did something unthinkable. Overcoming her mamta, she shielded one child of hers away from her as per the advice of guruji. A girl who got a different upbringing than that of LM. What would have been Anami's fate if Satrupa had kept her. They would have made plans to eliminate her also. The very same way they did with Vatsalya. Also a girl in LM would never be like Anami. She will be groomed to be a lady, to be a ideal wife, bahu and maa. Not to be a business magnet or to question the ethos. Satrupa herself tells she didnt had the courage. Because the women of such families are bought up like that. Pre conditioned to behave in a certain fashion.
The way Satrupa bought Anami, not only the LM, but the court and the system protects Anami. She is the heir and her protection is taken up by the law of the land.

Anami in her hatred for Satrupa could never see this larger picture. She doesnt listen to Gayatri or Adhiraj also who are truly her well wishers. Yes now she has doubts. But what she forgets is that Sudha is a remarkable player. She understands the change in Anami and will move her pawn accordingly. The ornaments were that of Kamini. So Sudha took Kamini ornaments and she didnt even realize it. I loved the way Satrupa concluded the attack and the look on Anami's face. The criminal is inside. Yes Anami had made a grave mistake. She is slowly realizing it, but it is far too late in the game. Because Sudha has been bought in. She cannot directly question Sudha till she gets solid proof. The battle is going to get bloody.

Now coming to Vatsalya. Why do I feel he is not dead. His body was not found. The car turned for sure, but it didnt go down any valley( I didnt watch initial episodes. But as per my understanding the car fell in valley and vatsalya body was not found). Why do I feel Narotham is hiding his brother. Sudha says he loves his sister, but what if he had loved his brother also and have actually saved him and keeping him safe. He still has his night visits. He was playing black and white pieces in chess. What exactly is he doing.

Vikku told Anami will go in a year. So she shouldnt try to build vatsalya dream. Can vatsalya dream hold Anami back. Can she stay in LM post one year for her brother, for fulfilling his dream of how he wanted to take RS forward. It is a question Anami will have to ask herself and if she needs Vikku support for her proposal answer in affirmative.

Purushottam and Sudha knows Anami and Adhi are behind them. So they are playing their own tricks. They feel Adhi and Anami can be tackled. So that means they have not understood the depth of Adhi-Anami relation. For them it is CBI officer and the heir apparent of RS.

Now coming to Kamini wealth in Sudha hand, which is used by Purushottam to distract the crowd or get attention of Anami. That means Kamini will lose something precious and it is through that precious thing path to truth will be opened. So is it Avdhoot, we yet dont know what will happen to him, but whatever it is through him the path to truth will open. Yes Abhi of Chakravyuha.

In yesterday analysis I forgot to mention about carrom game. Carrom is that game where you eye the pawn you want to strike and then hit the striker in such a way that you get it. Unlike chess where the paths of each pawn is decided, in carrom the striker has the choice to choose the path based on the pawn he wants to hit. If it is your turn, the entire board of carrom is yours. Choose the pawn you want to strike, you can strike straight, in angle or back. It is allowed. Just choose the pawn rightly and learn to hit the striker properly. Because if you dont strike it properly it will miss the pawn. Force you apply and the friction of the board plays important aspects in deciding the trajectory of the striker. So it is important to know both these aspects before choosing the path. The seen and the unseen. The force you give is in your hand, but not the friction of the board. A good carrom player understands the seen and unseen forces that will decide the movement of his striker. In chess you evaluate the other person's move, in carrom it is all about yourself. Whether you can hit or not when chance comes to you. In a nutshell carrom is about yourself, while chess is about other. In chess you make a move thinking the other person will do something, but that person need not do that and your game will be lost. In carrom you observe the pawn and strike it. There is no need to think what other will do. It is your chance, use it maximum for your benefit. Every pawn you put, you get another chance. So make intelligent choices on which pawn to strike when. Dheeru is about self, while LM wasis is about others. It is his action based on time for Dheeru, while it is other's action based on past for LM wasis. Only present will win. Past has to go. As Adhi say Dheeru will win.
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Posted: 7 years ago
I just want to take a few seconds to comment on what you said about Vatsalya. I have felt since day 1 that Vatsalya isn't dead, but at the same time I counter myself as well. Here's why. They never show Vatsalya's dead body or blood leaking from the car or anything. They showed the driver dead through that open door, but never Vatsalya. On the other hand, if Vatsalya isn't dead, Satrupa has to know this because she's the type of woman who would never perform the last rites of her son without seeing his dead body. And if she's seen it then the viewers would have been shown it as well. The fact that we weren't shown it makes me feel that Satrupa knows that Vatsalya isn't dead. But then again to counter that theory, the idea that comes to mind is that if Satrupa knows that Vatsalya isn't dead, she wouldn't have brought Anami to LM and if she did, she wouldn't spend so much time trying to groom her into the next heir. She would instead have spent time finding the person behind Vatsalya's death and punishing them and then bringing Vatsalya back out in front of everyone once the danger was averted. Combining all this takes me back to square one, into thinking that Vatsalya is dead.

Whatever it is I don't think Narottam has hidden Vatsalya away because Narottam hated Vatsalya. He felt Vatsalya was always trying to show him down, demean him, and troll him. There's no way Narottam would save Vatsalya. Not only that but Narottam has no idea who killed Vatsalya as was shown earlier on. If he has no idea who killed Vatsalya then how could he save Vatsalya? Just my thoughts.

On Sudha and Purushottam I just posted my comment in another thread so I've just quoted that here.

Originally posted by: Athene

Today was explosive to say the least!

It was kind of obvious that Sudha had a hand in Vatsalya's death. Pujan is smart and he also wanted to kill Vatsalya, but his plans always fail. Plus he was the obvious choice given that he made the call and the plan.

With Purushottam's entry though a lot is going to pick up. We had a flashback today where something Sudha said stuck with me. She said, "Iss Kurukshetra mein aamne saamne ka waar nahi hoga. Bas lukha chupi hogi. Maut dikhegi aur muskhurat chupi rahegi hamari muthi mein." That line has so many layers to it. On the top and most visible layer, this means that Sudha and Purushottam will continue to give LM such wounds, but won't let it be known that it's them.

On a second layer, this implies that the two have a much deeper plan than simply making Narottam heir. If it was as simple as that then they would have killed Anami right away when she was first revealed and then killed Avdhoot as well. That would have left Vikram with no option but to make Narottam heir or to give RS to someone else. This means that this Kurukshetra is not just about heirs. It's a deep-seeded hatred.

On a third level, this implies that the two have planned quite extensively. They have thought of every scenario possible. They have planned each scenario and will attack each scenario. However, here I do want to tie the flashback into the present. Sudha is anxious, nervous, and tense. She feels that they are losing control. And that is because of two people only: Anami and Narottam. Sudha and Purushottam may have planned every scenario. They may know what every LM wasi would do or how they would react. But they forgot about Narottam. They didn't understand him. They assumed he had been raised into the killing machines they are. That was their first mistake. But their second mistake was underestimating Anami. When she was brought into the mix, they assumed who and how she is based on her upbringing, her current emotions (at that time), and her dialogues. If they had waited a little longer and tried to understand Anami a bit more their plans might have been different.

Finally, on the most deepest level, this dialogue implies that this Kurukshetra will not be fought in the open. In the future we won't get any explosive confrontations and arrests and a proper ending. No. It'll be haphazard. It'll be a fight that will lead to the results, but some will be open-ended and some closed-ended. Purushottam will die, but Satrupa will die. Narottam will die, but so will Ladoo. (I don't actually mean these. I'm just giving these as examples. I hope to GOD that nothing happens to Ladoo.) Dheeru will mold Anami into a proper heir, but that may not be what Vikram wants. This Kurukshetra is hidden and so the moves, the fights, the deaths, the wins, the losses, everything is hidden as well. Satrupa bringing Ladoo appears like a win for her, but is it going to be for sure? We aren't sure about that yet.

Moving on from the flashback to the present there are two things I noticed and want to comment on.

First was Sudha's repeated use of "mera beta" and "hamara beta" for Narottam. This is the first time ever that Sudha has acknowledged that Narottam is her son. Up until then she never actually referred to him like that. He was always Narottam or LM waaris or Baldev's son or Baldev and Sudha's son. Notice how the third person has disappeared and the first person has appeared. I do feel this was deliberate though. She's trying to develop a connection with Narottam now that he's slipping out of her hands. She's trying to evoke emotions that she doesn't have to bring Narottam back to her side. But given how deliberate it seemed, I feel even Narottam will see right through her.

Second was the potli that Sudha handed to Purushottam and Purushottam's subsequent escape. For a man who is "dead" and easily changes appearances and moves quietly here to there, the show of giving him the potli and his subsequent escape were very loud and in your face. That was done deliberately. Purushottam dropped that potli containing Kamini's jewellery to deflect the viewer's attention. The real potli has something else. Similarly, Purushottam's loud escape was done deliberately. I feel it was done to confuse LM. While everyone turns their suspicion to Sudha and starts suspecting that she has her hand in this "robbery", Purushottam can easily slip through the cracks and make his next move. As Sudha said in her flashback, this is a Kurukshetra to be fought in a hidden manner and what better way then to divert the enemy's attention and attack from behind?

Overall a very explosive episode indeed!

Edited by Athene - 7 years ago

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