The hands you take and the hands you leave Part 63-Updated page 149 - Page 34

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: bella2244

Sudha come to give "bali" of royal heir 😔. And it's anami only. The why she tilak anami it's like people tilak their "bali" before sacrifice it. 😭



i too felt she was the bali ka bakrašŸ˜†
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Posted: 7 years ago
27/10/2017

It was a very good episode. LM leaves the hands of Anami, but the law takes the hands of Anami. It was very beautiful to see the contrast especially Adhiraj coming and telling she cannot be sent outside LM. If she goes court will take custody of her. Adhiraj was in black and white and it suited the situation pretty much. The scene was also good. Each of LM wasis leaving Anami alone, she goes to Adhiraj but he too leaves. Yes adhiraj will be there, but will not be there, the battle with Sudha belongs to Anami and Anami alone.

Vikku called Anami only snake. Today he reitrated it and today he had reason to as she used the law in her favour. Now coming to whether Anami is a mahan bahu, what she did was right or wrong. Well she is right and wrong to me. Wrong because of the reason I already put she had never considered herself a part of LM. Right because Satrupa has to take a long walk, a long walk to the woman called Madhoo Pathak if she needs to get her child back. No it cannot be done using blackmail, it cannot be done using threatneing, it can be done only accepting the fact that this woman had taken care of Anami like her own. Loved her like her own. The antidote of Sudha is only Pagli Pandithayan. If someone can open Anami's eyes towards the truth, towards what kind of a woman Sudha is that woman is the person Anami calls her mother Madhoo Pathak. Satrupa had asserted her right as the woman who gave birth to Anami after 17 years. So far she has not acknowledged the Pathak family for what they have done to Anami in real sense. She will have to. Only Madhoo can make her accept Satrupa. If you look now Anami has 3 mothers, Pagli Pandhitayan, Satrupa, then Sudha. Pagli Pandthiyan is the nurturing force, Satrupa is both and Sudha destructive force. She is not exactly a mother. To undo her, Satrupa has to go to the past to the nurturing force. She has to take the hand of Pagli Pandhitayan.

But the best part of the episode for me was Dheeru and Adhiraj. Dheeru is really becoming the Krishna of the show. He is the father and mentor of Adhiraj, he is the mentor for Anami. Yes he is the teacher , he is the coach. What he told Adhiraj was the truth. Adhi doesnt have the bird's eye view of the problem. He is combing the jungle. A good archer should know not only how to send the arrow, but also how to manage his emotions, just like the direction of wind that is not seen, but felt , emotions if not managed correctly can land you in soup. Yes Arjun was one disciple who saw only the bird's eye and rest everyone saw jungle and many other things. That's why he is among the great archers. It would have taken hell lot of control on one's emotions to fight the battle on day 14 of MB. Yes a man whose son was brutally killed can have his emotions runnign haywire. But this man fights, fights with only one target in view called Jaydrath. Yes it is the battle of a life time for Arjun, under the most stressful conditions. From that fire Arjun comes out successfully because he had the right direction. His arrow had the right direction. Adhi has to get the direction. Adhi has to listen to his father. You cannot change the past. But you can understand the past, to take a better step in present for a good future.
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Posted: 7 years ago
I was waiting for your analysis, shruthi😃
Two scenes I liked best in the episode ... one was the Dheeru-Adhiraj scene, and the second one in the precap Gayatri-Satrupa scene. Both were similar, in effect telling Adhiraj and Satrupa that in order to fight the snake called Sudha, Adhiraj and Satrupa need to control their emotions, and use their brains. Gayatri tells Satrupa she has to forget that Anami is her daughter ... much like Krishna told Arjun to forget that those ranged against him in battle were his brothers, his uncles, his relatives . And Dheeru tells Adhiraj that he needs to focus on his main aim, and not get distracted ... a timely reminder, as Adhiraj has been going all over the place because of his misplaced trust in Anami.


In the battle of Kurukshetra, the Pandavas were outnumbered by the Kauravas (correct me if I'm wrong) ... they won because of strategy, not brute strength. Anami, like Karna, is aligned on the wrong side right now. Will her path follow the path of Karna, and will she stay on the wrong side, and eventually lose? Or unlike the Mahabharata, will she cross over to the right side? Karna realised that he was fighting on the wrong side, but because he was so beholden to Duryodhana by then, he could never cross over to the Pandavas, despite being asked by Kunti.

You mentioned Satrupa taking a walk to the woman Madhu Pathak, if she wants her child back. Kunti could never be a mother to Karna ... she could never acknowledge him as her son till the end, and then only to her other sons. Satrupa is not the type of mother Madhu was ... the affectionate, demonstrative, doing oil massage, 'pranam before you touch Mother Earth' type of mother. She is fierce, protective, possessive ... she will fight for her cub ... but equally she will fight with her cub ... the similarity between the two women is that they both want to teach Anami right from wrong. Madhu taught her 'sahi ho to jhuko nahin, galat ho to lado nahin'. Satrupa needs to teach her the rest of the lesson ... how to determine if you are sahi or galat in the first place.

Anami is yet to grow up ... that's all I will say about her. I cannot sympathise with her right now ... she is coming across as spoiled, stubborn and stupid ... and very gullible ... unable to distinguish right from wrong, good from bad, easily swayed by superficial charm. She needs a big jhatka ... hope the makers do it soon before the audience is put off by her.

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Posted: 7 years ago
Shruthi, was waiting for your post!

I liked Anami-Satrupa face-off. Somehwere, i think, it hurt Anami when Satrupa said she'll never be her Vatsalya.Jsut as she's comparing the Singhs to her other family, they're comparing her to the child they lost.And she's not coming out with flying colours.

I loved Dheeru-Adhi scene. It looked like how he would've coached him in play ground.The CBI officer, pissed off with his father was gone, there was a son,willing to listen to his father's wisdom & grateful for it. Dheeru ddin't give any info,which Adhi might have rejected, jusst told him to go figure.šŸ‘

Love love the precap- Glad that Gayathri is guiding Satrupa.

When Anami was standing by Sudha, Narrotam was behind Dadi. Will he switch?

I'm curious about the magic bullet Dheeru told Adhi, what could be that,which will end his enemies' game in one shot?
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Posted: 7 years ago
@Diya Satrupa has to gain Anami's trust. That's the most important thing. Gayatri can guide her, but Madhoo can help her. yes just like she went to Dheeru to get her child coached, she can go to Madhoo for Anami. Afterall Anami is dear to madhoo and Murari Pathak is a man of wisdom. He will tell his wife what to do and how to support Satrupa for the welfare of their child. Yes Karna on the wrong side. Show was told what if Karna was a girl. And now it is becoming clear why it was told that way as Anami stands with Sudha.
And yes Pandavas has less army compared to kauravas. it wass 11 sets for kauravas and 7 sets of pandavas . It was Krishna and his direction, his strategy that made them win the war.

@simran Vatsalya and Anami was different. Vatsalya loved everyone, but he never tried to change the system. He allowed it to be as it is. But he wanted the change. In the book he read, in the poems he wrote the need for change is there. And change is never easy. It has its own share of pain.

The magic pill is Narotham if they want him to go for redemption. That's what I feel now, but it can change.The moment Narotham switches side the war is over. As Sudha loses her power. Pujan is having only physical power, the real threat is Sudha. Now if Narotham needs to switch sides, what will make him switch sides is the biggest question.

The war that raged for 14 days was over in another 4 days when the Shakthi in Karna's hand went away taking down Ghatkolkach. So you need a collateral damage and unexpected collateral damage that can take the power away from Sudha's hand.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Hey Shruthi ! šŸ¤— Missed you yesterday !
Yes ! Word !
Dheeru is slowly becoming the Krishna of the story, a shrewd yet well placed man who knows to guide and shift things so that they fall in place. An outsider, he is neither biased towards LM or Sudha - but strives for the betterment of the kingdom, in this case the people and Royal Steel. A person, who does not react emotionally or based on the past - but strikes when the rod is hot. He does not spoon feed, nor does he impress his thoughts upon anyone. He does give the fish, he teaches them how to catch them. And that means meal not for a day, but lifetime. So that while they learn the same as him ; he knows experience will teach them more, for every one - a new thing.

Yes, everybody is shooting in the dark. Hoping to strike the target. But an arrow is all that is required.
Kauravas lost the war with the entire Narayani sena while Pandavas won with an unarmed Krishna.

Anami appears to be a very unaffected person on the outfront - somebody who doesn't care or is unaffected by anyone of the LM. But on reality, she is very much affected. She is a person whose mind gets easily clouded by emotions. If Sudha had once played around LM who are filled with wolves and foxes - Anami was an easy target. Caught her attention by limelighting the cruelty of LM whom she already despiced, sought her empathy with strikingly similar situations of abandonment - Anami fell right into their trap. Now it is up to Anami to come out of this illusion. To see the truth behind the Palace of illusions.

Adhiraj is frustrated for having fallen for the well-laid plan rather than his instincts. His gut was correct at advising Anami not to trust anyone in and around LM. But himself did, and he regrets that. He is frustrated at having not seen this coming, and for having to support Anami through this despite knowing Anami has chosen the wrong side.

He is angry because no matter what he says, Narottam and Sudha have bonded emotionally with Anami - which is not matter what, much more overpowering than that of friendship or support. Anami and Adhiraj know only what is visible about each other. Not beyond that - they have not yet reached a stage of unquestionable trust. There are still suspicions and worries. They are still overruling of advises. But they are there for each other.

Now, the way Dheeru connects with Anami will make all the difference. Because no one can get through a young ling more than his guru. Especially, when she is surrounded by people, none of which she truly loves or trusts. A teacher whom she accepts is worth her respecting him. Dheeru has faced enough to have developed the shrewdness necessary to survive, while retaining his well-placed thoughts. He knows, when to leave - when to strike. A person of immense worldly knowledge.

Like Dadi says, "Yeh tumhe jeetna hai, Satrupa"
While this show might be based on the complex and delicately balanced web of realtions, it highlights the one between a mother- and her daughter. Purely blood based, because Satrupa has missed out on the childhood of Anami - which pulls a child towards or away from you. Satrupa not only consciously missed out on that but also never tried once, to make up for it. Instead served her a cold plate of blackmail. Maybe out of sheer panic and lack of time. But afterwards ? She tried to replace Vatsalya, without any of the ingredients or the utensils ? That is an insult to both of them. And it shows in the teary, bloodhshot eyes of Anami at the slap.

Vatsalya was always the support, her solace - but Anami will provide Satrupa of finding that within herself.

If a person has a place in your heart, then it will always be there. It never runs out of space. Anami will make a separate, unique place for her in it. And Satrupa has to earn the position for Anami to willingly love her. And banaras will help her there. Maybe she can force her, get her to sympathize - even cleverly manipulate. But love and trust - comes from heart. And Anami's heart lies back their in Banaras

Vatsalya always searched for the white. Until it became so bright, that he was blinded and fell hard.
Anami is in the black. Attracted towards glitter but not gold. Too jumpy.

Anami is aware of the tension just like Vatsalya. But she does not know the severity. Vatsalya did not question it, Anami did. He kept Narottam at a shoulder apart, she held it. He tried to mend things between DevRupa - she will do it. To remove a weed, you have to uproot it. You can't ignore the weed and move on.

Baldev is still guilty. Satrupa still feels betrayed. Narottam does not know what happened, he has been brought up with vengeance instilled into him. Like Dheeru said, "Woh Saaya hai"
A shadow never leaves our side. She is always there, whether we want or not. A dark, abstract form. Situations shaping it bigger or lesser, closer or away from us. Sometimes, unseen.

Why the shadow is unable to leave them, and why LM is unable to get rid of those inner demons is what will bring the people together. And for that, they have to got to the beginning, before Sudha entered any of their lives.

P.S : I am curious about the lack of smile or any form of happiness on Narottam's face as Anami moved towards Adhiraj and Sudha towards Durga. Yet, the smirk when Sudha blessed Anami as the True Shakti. Sudha's unaware quote, reminding Anami of her Maa, a genuine emotion. Hmm
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Posted: 7 years ago
Very well written Ammu. Especially Saaya. A Saaya comes in all forms and shapes till you allow it or till it is alive within you. I mean shadow exists only till we are alive. Once gone, then no more shadow. So first LM has to get rid of Sudha from their thoughts. For that it is necessary she is back and the shadows of the past are removed once and forever
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Posted: 7 years ago
The reference to Shadow existing only as long as we are alive makes me think of the "Faceless God" from GoT šŸ˜‰

THough I thought I wiill not see the episode I did. How can Sudha know the same sentence as Madhoo ? Lagta Hai Sudha has done proper homework. šŸ˜†
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Posted: 7 years ago
of course dear. Sudha has done what Satrupa should have done. She has remodelled herself as Pagli panditayan
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Posted: 7 years ago
30/10/2017

Remarkable episodes. The hands that leaves, that hands that needs to be chosen, the hand that expects, it was once again the hands. Anami is alone, she feels everyone has left her hands. Adhiraj is not taking her phone, Gayatri has not come to make her hair. Only Poonam is there. But I would say that is the Maya of Anami. Nobody has left her hand. Adhiraj has already started the process of putting Pappu in mental asylum. I loved that scene between Adhiraj and Pappu. What enemity I have with you. Not mental asylum. Even gunda will get girl, but not a pagal. And then Adhiraj tells he will give him job in CBI. So here goes Pappu to mental aslyum.
Gayatri has already started taking the hand of Satrupa. I would say though Sudha looks destructive she has done a remarkable thing in mending two broken relations one between Gayatri and Satrupa and second between Vikku and Baldev. Gayatri is becoming the strength of Satrupa. I would say if the masculine aspect of Krishna we see in Dheeru, then of course the feminine aspect we are going to see in Gayatri is what I feel as she makes Satrupa walk the path of fight in her own rules and law. Because the Chakravyuha has to be broken and Satrupa has to win.
Vikku and Baldev, first time Vikku wants the hands of his son. The very same son whom he had always insulted publicly for the mistake he committed. The very same son whom he had disinherited from RS. He wants that sons hand as he feels powerless, as past comes back to him, as old age is over taking him. As Dheeru says you cannot die baba, you have to live to pay for all your karmas. Yes a slow process of healing has started for Baldev. No wonder I told Anami has bought Sudha as savera and not Saanjh.

Now Sudha Madam. Well this woman has been cheated, that is for sure. She says pain was acceptable but not treachery. So justice is due for this woman. If you see when she does Durga pooja and Satrupa puts the thali down , fire doesnt spread, that means Satrupa wont cause any destruction, the lamp will glow, whatever she does the family and RS will continue to glow. She is the Lakshmi of that family. Righteousness is by her side. Now seeing Anami Sudha puts the thali and fire happens. it burns a bit, but Anami extinguishes it. That means Sudha will create a fire that will rage LM for her justice, but before it goes out of control Anami will extinguish it. Sudha spreading the agarbathi ka smoke I felt anyways she will remove whatever ugly is in that LM and will be the medium through which a new fragrance, a new dawn will come to LM.

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