The hands you take and the hands you leave Part 63-Updated page 149 - Page 36

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Posted: 7 years ago
@vidya for me Vatsalya will be back through Anami. Anami will stay back. See both Anami and Vatsalya say they are incomplete, like yin and yan. So Vatsalya will merge with Anami, Anami will have her nature, but when she sees LM through Vatsalya she will start feeling the place
@ammu what a detailed post and you have covered everything. Especially I liked Adhiraj part. Yes Anami is emotions for him and it is very important he stays away from emotions and think through his logical CBI mind for sometime as that part is very much needed in this game.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Well I haven't yet read the written updates for today's episode just landed in this page. Looks like a massive changing episode. Can't wait to watch it.

Well on the one year thing I was thinking on same lines as Shruthi too. Anami will become the Vatsalya of LM who will be the one everyone yearns for and she will feel for the rest of them as her own as well in return. That poetry she read and the threesome see her as Vatsalya..until then for some reason I thought Vatsalya was not the one who died and will come back..maybe some coverup happened or something. But that episode changed my thoughts
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Posted: 7 years ago
Interesting take with chessboard Ammu. Yes it is a war between the queens and we can have more than one queen of the same color too with a promotion.
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Posted: 7 years ago
I was reading up on the Chakravyuh of Mahabarth. It has 7 concentric rings. The maharathis and adoration were strategically positioned. When one fell the gap was closed and the disc formation would rotate. Till one was trapped it was difficult to gauge who is there and who is not. Since each of them specialised in one type of warfare preferring one weapon the element of surprise was present.
The thought I had about Vatsalyas return is what Ammu and Shruthi pointed out.
The conversation between the twins on the ghat where both expressed a void within.Vatsalya days somewhere beneras always gave him the feeling of completion.
Anami too states on her birthday she felt her void even more deeply and thought it stemmed from the abandonment.
Both of them represent very powerful emotions. That can weaken those around compassion and rage.
Sudha by putting a tikka and announcing Anami as the Durga ma, the Shakthi though meant in deceit would turn out to be a reality.
Vatsalya was pulled as he was seated beside his sister into deep waters.
She fights and actually saves him.
Will an attempt be made on her half brother who she feels has been badly treated? Will he like Shikandi become the shield that Krishna bids stand in front of Arjun as he rained arrows on Bhishma?
There must be a deeper reason why Narotham is characterised this way.
Bareilly again according to belief was considered as paanchal.
Draupadi and her twin had been raised only with the purpose of destroying Drona who claimed his share from Drupada as per the promise.
Shikandi had sought the boon to be the first that brings ruin to Bhishma.
The reference of the bed becoming the makbara has to be a reference to becoming bedridden maybe?

Gayathri urging her son to be there to support Satrupa in the struggle the reason for the threat is from within. Once the fear is faced and removed, there will be peace and serenity.
Efforts will be made to stifle the unborn heir like Ashwathama attacking the baby in utharas womb.

Adiraj was the one to call Anami maharani Sahiba and Murari Pathak had introduced Satrupa as maharani and Anami as her Rajkumari. He maybe was taken into confidence by guruji which is why Guruji avoided him.
Murari Pathak has the wisdom and power over Anami to become the guruji when she becomes queen.
Edited by moonwearer - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
@vidya I love the shikhandi reference. Yes the hit is on vikku who I feel is the Bhishma of the show. Also Dheeru says Vikku has to live. If we see Bhishma falls on the 10th day on the bed of arrows, he lives through the war in that bed of arrows seeing the destruction of his family. But he is the one who finally gives lecture on good governance to Yudhi before his death.
So Anami will hit Vikku , his systems with Narotham as the shield. I would say as long as Vikku is in walking condition there wont be anything drastic.
Only if he is bed ridden, sick, unable to move about or take independant decision the game changes. Because when Vikku falls, it will be Shakthi entering the field in full force and the brutal Chakravyuha becomes visible where neeti, reeti and maryada wont be there.

@visa the third queen has to be there. As 3 is always the game changer. The 3 is invisible. Whenever game of illusions is played 2 will be visible, but not the third. The third should not be visible for the defense of the opposite side. The game is there. Strategy is there.

I dont know how many of you had seen EHT. There I had mentioned 3 of Durga's Achilles heel, Divya, Payal and Dev. Sakshi gets hold of both her Achilles heel. But Durga could reach these Achilles heels as Durga without compromising her identity as Nithya. Third was Dev, her biggest strength, her biggest Achilles Heel. The man he couldnt reach out as Durga. Her whole battle was hiding this relation from Sakshi. Not allowing Sakshi to know how deeply she loves Dev and to what extend she will go for him.
Sakshi completely misreads Dev-Durga relation and gives Durga's defense in a gold platter to her. When Sakshi was doing Devga ghatbhandhan I was like, doobh maregi Sakshi. You are writing your downfall with your hands and it happened exactly that way.

That's why Adhiraj-Anami relation should not be known to anyone. Because third queen has to be created. And that third queen creation shouldnt look a relation of love, but that of deal, that of business, that for reeti, neeti an maryada. Anything but the illusion has to be strong that love doesnt exist in that relation. By the time the extend of love is known, it has to be the downfall of the destructive power.
Edited by shruthiravi - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I would say another interesting episode. Gayatri takes the hand of Anami, she takes the hand of Satrupa. I loved the symbolism Gayatri making her knotted hair. Just like Anami's knotted hair, the relations are also knotted, when you try to untie them it will pain. And I feel Gayatri will play the most important role in unknotting the relations for Anami. Yes she will bring some pain for her, but that pain will be Anami's medicine.

Anami wants the same law for the 10,000 families. Yes socialist theory. Will not work in real world because you get result as per your karma, as per your action. Can she make the karma of 10,000 families same. Answer is no. But yes she can be empthathetic and use a mix of socialist and capitalist theory, which she needs to learn. In other words it has to be a combination of what Dheeru teaches her and what she learns from Satrupa. yin and yang. Masculine and Feminine. Vatsalya and Anami. You have to take the best of everything and make something of your own. Only then you will evolve as a leader, else you are just following someone's footsteps.And the best line was Gayatri telling her last page is not read first. You dont understand it, unless you read the first page. Very true. The world as we see it has a past, unless we understand past, we cannot take right decisions in present for a better future. We dont have to repeat past, but past has to be understood, learnings taken. That's why MB is still a relevant book and has answers to the questions of the modern world also.

Now Sudha and food. Sudha has made food. The tasty food. What I felt in that scene was, Baldev had relation with her without knowing who she is, yes he had. The half eaten food and when the identity of the cook is known then suddenly food becomes poison. So Sudha was beautiful, Baldev did enjoy her, did had romance with her and it felt good also. Then something happened for him to leave her. Question is did he leave on his own or someone made him. Because Sudha believes he was forced into marriage with Satrupa.

Adhiraj and Anami. I was happy finally Anami went to Adhiraj. He refused to take her call. He refused to play along with her and Anami had to go to him. The queen has to walk to him and give him gol gappa. The closed door and he opening it and Anami giving him gol gappa what I felt was, there will a time Adhiraj will be away from her and when they finally meet, that meeting will be like the taste of gol gappa. Some sweet, some bitter, some sour, some crisp infact all the navras will be there in it.

And I dont know why I feel I want Anami to be irritated by Adhi-Ila. The way she was bought Sudha to give pain to Satrupa, to show her mother, the other woman in her father's life, she needs a bit of it. Ila taking her place, that friendship and how she feels about it.

Now the guest room key. Gayatri gives guest room key to Sudha. That means they consider Sudha a guest. So she will be there till a specific time and then the guest has to go, she will also have to go. And Sudha took the key, so that means she is there for a short period.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Amazing analysis Shruthi. The manner in which the family is trying to untangle the mess like the messed up locks, the reference to the go to the beginning and unravel the tale is the message AR received.
He takes steps and goes to the source will Anami get a glimpse of the story? Will she have the patience to read every twist in the tale in the right light?

The dishing out delicacies soon turns repulsive and each of the family move out and Sudha with much ado eats the left over food.
The mystery of 7 years will unfold I guess. The spy has returned. Where is Damu?
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Posted: 7 years ago
Boring episode 🥱 sudha's drama . And anami gaga over her cook food 😕. Sudha behave like she is "bahu" of LM ! And even sit on baldev's chair and eat his food like " pativarta nari " 😡. And anami is feeling so sorry for her . That she love her father that much and getting humiliated 🤢. I scared of the think that one day anami said baldev that he is happy if he married to sudha instead of her " matlabi mataji" because she is perfect wife matirial🥱. And her matlabi mataji is just selfish and not care for anyone and not good wife or mother. 🥱😭. And i think nothing is unfold because sudha making some stories about her run away . And naina is spying on anami so whatever anami find , sudha easy manipulate her by emotional attyachar .😡
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Posted: 7 years ago
Shruthi,
Was trying to figure out the foodfest today.

Sudha apparently was a maid, Viku and Poojan were so bitchy today.
everyone including Satrupa accepted her at some point and something she did made them all turn against her.
Anami was uncomfortable watching Sudha eating BD's left over.
She's alrerady jealous of Illa, she and Poonam call her chudel lol.

imo, her march towards the throne will include her growing up as a woman and that's when she'll uderstand her parents and their past.
The key, i thought it was symbolic of Anami, whom she got in her fist.

Interesting take on Anami-Adhi scene.I guess, it'll be Anami who'll take the initative in forming an alliance,pushing her way into Adhi's life, may be for RS's sake. She's more attached to it emotionally thr' Vatsalya's dream & her own socialist leanings.
But I wonder, how their love can be hidden as you said in the other post.
It's obvious for everyone to see.LOL

Narrotam looked concerned at the dinnin table, he didn't smirk at Momy's minor victory.
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Posted: 7 years ago
It's weird. For the past few weeks I really haven't had much to review or analyze because you always get it bang on (in terms of what I'm thinking). I do feel that after the debacle (at least in my view) they had last week with bringing Sudha into the house and all they've picked up pace again and are taking the story forward.

In my view when Sudha was introduced I was half-expecting some slow saas-bahu drama with Anami being kicked out of the house, Sudha planning and plotting, Satrupa evading the planning and plotting, and no real story forward. But the CVs have surprised me yet again.

Today's episode was slightly slow, but good.

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