The hands you take and the hands you leave Part 63-Updated page 149 - Page 13

Created

Last reply

Replies

1.1k

Views

101.2k

Users

44

Likes

5.6k

Frequent Posters

simran_singh_24 thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 7 years ago
@Shruthi & Athena- On Adhi & Anami- imo, the real test for him will be when she acts like Dheeru and becomes a hurdle to his work/path of justice he's following . ATM, she hasn't impacted him negatively work-wise.When that happens he can be more unforgiving, he's not sparing his Dad daily, even tho' he is an indirect beneficiary of Dheeru's coup.

I wish the CVs will show him getting to know Anami's attempt to rig the DNA test ,i want to see how he would react.

Their balcony scenes are interesting. I see, Anami will somehow unknowingly or to settle scores hurt him where it hurts most for him, his career. In one of their earlier interaction when Anami fell on him from the balcony he dropped his phone while talking to his Boss and hurt his hand,which anami soothed later. This time he has gone back to feel sorry himself after the rap on the knuckles literally.

When his connection to Dheeru comes to light & if she gets influenced by someone to see their sleuthing together that gave the Pandeys the edge, she might hate AR.

i'm also curious to see how Illa's words about friendship & enmity with CBI walas will impact MiRaj.may be at one point they might be on the opposite side.

Dynamic vyuha indeed! Loving this!
shruthiravi thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 7 years ago
@ammu Sudha and Dheeru both have been wronged by LM. But Dheeru comes across as more a righteous fighter than Sudha. Sudha has injected poison into Narotham, but if you look Adhiraj and Tanya, Dheeru has not injected poison in them, Adhiraj's chooses the path of justice himself and Tanya doesnt want anything to do with LM and I would say she has evolved into a sweet girl who loves her father and brother and who is loved by both of them. When injustice happens to you, you have to fight, but the path you choose determines where you stand with respect to right and wrong.
@Athene the extremes is the problem. If Adhiraj wants justice he should learn to take mid path. That is why Dheeru evoked Krishna. If you understand Krishna you will reach Ram's path only, but then it is better to use the mentor and understand how to use the middle path. Basically the path of Narayan which is not all creation, neither all destruction it is sustenance of life where what is needed for life is preserved and what is harmful for life is destroyed. Adhiraj has to understand Dheeru for this middle path and Anami will have to understand Satrupa. Now with their parents both are behaving as if they were all wrong and kids are all right. I always say without experiencing grihasthashrama dont comment on it. Only when you go through life with so many relationship dynamics you will understand your parents and why they did what they did. Of course you can change the course, but for that you need to understand them.

@josh,vidya I would have loved to agree with you if not for Gayatri's eyes that showed a very cunning smile when Sudha was dragged away. If what you tell is true the eyes should have shown relief or exasperation never cunning. Something has happened with Sudha. She was a victim once, she is no longer a victim now.

@ammu yes lot of things are left open ended at this point to make assumptions

@simran the indication is there from the first scene where Anami hits the bouncer on Adhiraj. She will be impacting his career. His unblemished record as an officer. But if that happens she herself will bring him out also. Yes when Anami knows he is Dheeru's son who has got 50% stake in RS, she can go beserk unwilling to listen to him. And if Satrupa is moving her relation with Adhi to keep Dheeru in check, then Adhiraj will be the most hated man for her in the world.😆😆😆
shruthiravi thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 7 years ago
12/10/2017

Once again the hands you choose and the hands you leave. Look at the difference of Adhiraj and Narotham. For Adhiraj protection of Anami was the most important thing, so he had to leave the gunda. Narotham he first asks his mother what to do. When she tells Anami has to be saved he comes for it and once he sees Adhiraj taking her, he finds the information of who tried to kill her. Yes for protection he had to ask the permission of his mom, but the other thing Sudha has done naturally into him. Just imagine what will happen if Adhiraj and Narotham comes to the same side. Fill in the blanks will happen.
Anami and Adhiraj. The first hand Anami thought of taking when she was in distress was AR, it was not Narotham. It was AR. Without her speaking a word AR knew she was in trouble. I loved he asked Ila to trace Anami's mobile location. Of course if AR was able to save Anami it is because of his power as CBI officer as the guards would never have allowed a civilian inside.

And Anami didnt wanted to talk. But when CBI officer takes charge she has to speak. She has to tell what happened. I loved the scene where Adhiraj takes her hand. The way she had told pain shouldnt be allowed to increase. He also doesnt want her pain to be increased. He does that. And well Anami doesnt pull back her hand. Fight as much as you want A&A but then you will reach out to each other's hands no matter what.

Now the question will be why AR didnt call any reinforcements. Yes head should have demanded reinforcements, but when it come to Anami only his heart works. But that heart hid the most important information from outside world. AR reached Anami because Anami called him. Because AR was alone he could make up the story to Satrupa that his sis is in that college, he went to pick her up, saw someone suspicious, followed him and saw Anami lying unconscious and he trying to kidnap her. It looked a perfect random event. As a CBI officer might follow suspicious looking people as part of their job. If reinforcement was there then this story wouldnt have sold. And Anami didnt scold him for that lie. A&A simply dont want anyone else to know they are taking each other's hand as and when required. Only Ila and Poonam is privy to this information. Yes A&A has to be secret. it should not come out till the most oppourtune time. Anyways AR impressed Satrupa today. A tick mark as far as her daughter goes. Now let us what are her plans with the partner of Royal Steel.

ammu3 thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 7 years ago
Right ?! Such a heart warming episode it was for me !
The fact that her unconscious no matter how upset with Adhiraj, sought him first at the sign of trouble, of helplessness. Warms your heart so much.

She put a tantrum even after she woke up, knowing he protected her. That, that itself shows that she truly trusts and adores him, and is just upset over the yester-incident. If anyone alse, she would have thanked them for the act, at the least. But with him, she chose the right to be still upset. Yet, the moment his tone shifts - from apologetic, grumpy and adorkable to serious, worried and protective tone overlaying his CBI jootey - she at once talks.

And of course, the whole scene after overthrowing the attacker. No lehrathey hue baal, no slow down of time, no desperate shouting, no passionate bgm - but just pure care. Though, I have to say I absolutely love the hint of subtle bgm they played when he picks her up to the jeep. Such a realistically shot scene with no priority given to aesthetics.

Yes, hence why i think Satrupa and Adhiraj will begrudingly bond over their common goal to protect Anami. Now that he knows, she is Satrupa's own blood. Satrupa might use their closeness- and craft him willingly to be a safety net for her to bounce back on.

See, that's exactly the contrast we are seeing isn't it. Anami has a close companion and confidant in Poonam. She has a protector and guide in Adhiraj. She has veiled concern and constant tracking from Satrupa's side. She has a informant in the form of Vatsalya's diary. Heck, she even has falsely-rooted, selfish-gain regarded concern from Sudha-Narottam's side. She herself is well equipped to protect herself, if only she let's go of her ego and remains beware.

Whereas Vatsalya - none of this. No foreseeing of attack on him. No disclosure of his feelings to anyone, no confidant but for a diary. No confidence, not enough courage to take a stand.

The huge thing - Vatsalya planned to run away - not the memories shared, not his father, not the fact of sticking for Narottam - not even his mother kept him back. But for Anami - despite everything, a shared night with Vatsalya was enough to keep her back ; into a family none whatsoever like one to her.
They couldn't be more part yet similar to the cell. Therein lies the difference in the victory and conquerer of Lal Mahal.

Narottam, well I don't know what to say. Wasn't he least bit worried to think of his sister - atleast a guileless supporting friend missing. He won't change anytime soon. As of now he is a son first. Like Gandhari, he has chosen to unsee the vicious cycle his mother is falling into and provoking him to do as well. put a A son who has seen his mother supposedly tortures and stamped at the hands of Lal Mahal. Nothing is greater to him than providing justice to his ma. A big storm has to happen to get him to just, think.


shruthiravi thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 7 years ago
@ammu narotham is just revenge not justice. Justice is sought by Adhiraj. Yes there were no theatrics when Adhiraj took Anami and got her straight home. And when he took her hand. I loved the bit of hesitancy in his face before he take her hand. He didnt tell anything, but Anami remembered the same thing she did to him. You have to feel the chemistry of the couple. A&A has that.
And I loved Satrupa when she told Baldev Anami will not runaway and she is like me. She will fight upfront.

Vatsalya was a noble soul who was trapped in the game of victories and loses in LM with no one to understand him. Yes he was loved, yet he was alone. I dont think Vatsalya mingled with people like Poonam , I mean boys from that background the way Anami mingles and keep herself busy. So he put everything in the diary. Yes that place suffocated him and he wanted liberation. Anami also wants liberation, but vatsalya keeps her in the bandhan
Minionite thumbnail
Posted: 7 years ago
@ Shruthi and Ammu: Today's episode was quite heartwarming. I didn't even mind that the whole episode concentrated on Anami's kidnapping and nothing else. For a show that moves quickly through each episode with at least 2 or 3 tracks, this one should have been slow, but wasn't.

The way Anami reached out to Adhiraj and Adhiraj understood that Anami was in trouble even without her saying anything signifies how strong their bond is and will be. Even after their petty fights and arguments, both trust each other and understand each other. It also shows, like Ammu mentioned, that Adhiraj thinks with his heart when it comes to Anami. He could have asked for back-up. He could have made this a CBI thing, but he made it personal.

And the way he saved Anami and chose to save Anami rather than chase down the goon, proves it. Anami was safe. There were no other goons around. He could have caught the goon, then gone back and taken Anami home, but he chose just to take Anami home. Ammu, like you I'm really glad there was no screaming, crying, hugging passionately, etc. in this scene. It would be so out of place and so cliched that I would have cringed and stopped watching that very second. Instead he spent a few seconds trying to awaken her and then took her home. I don't know if anyone noticed, but the way he picked up Anami was so effortless like she weighed nothing. It was just funny to see that.

Then, once Anami regains consciousness, she is angry with her friend Adhiraj, but as soon as he becomes CBI officer Adhiraj, she opens up as well. Inadvertently, she also forgives Adhiraj because else she would never have called him, and if she did she would have wrenched her hand away the moment he helped her out.

Now onto Narottam and Sudha. I'm glad that Sudha had the sense to save Anami. She's important to Sudha's plan and if anything happens to Anami, Sudha's plan goes out the window. Of course when the time comes for it, she'll turn deadly for Anami as well, but there's still time to that. What I found most interesting was Narottam's reaction. This is the same guy who reacted when Anami stood up for him and showed his brotherly emotions for the first time. Now he's back to just being Sudha's son and needing direction on every small step. Of course, his first step is also to save Anami, but when he sees that Anami has been saved, he does what Adhiraj left and catches the goon to get to the bottom of the kidnapping plan.

Finally I would like to comment on something you said Ammu, about having protection from every side, unlike Vatsalya. I agree with you that Anami and Vatsalya are quite different from each other. While Vatsalya couldn't stay back even after so many beautiful relations and memories, Anami is tied down by her one memory and the lacking relationship with Vatsalya. But I do feel that somewhere Anami has made these protections for herself and Satrupa has helped in the process. Satrupa chose Poonam to become Anami's Daamo and when Poonam did, it gave Satrupa some sense of relief. Anami became friends with Adhiraj, came into the attention of Sudha, and became somewhat friends with Narottam all on her own. She created these protections for herself. She learnt kung fu and was raised in an environment where she wasn't taught to be a helpless girl who just gets married and lives in her in-law house until death. So somewhere she, her environment, and Satrupa created these protections for her. In Vatsalya's case, no one ever had any reason to be worried because no one ever thought that Lal Mahal could turn on its own. Satrupa learnt from her mistake of assigning Vatsalya a bodyguard and not a friend and shadow. She learnt from her mistake of trusting Lal Mahal and not questioning those very relations.

Overall a very pleasing episode indeed.
moonwearer thumbnail
10th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 7 years ago
Ones identity is shaped partly by birth partly by the choices one makes based on experiences and circumstances
Vatsalya had everything going for him.he was a male so he was retained, Anami abandoned because she was a girl.
The worldly wisdom and values to speak up to rise against injustice Anami acquired being in the home of Murari Patak.
She does not conform to stereotypes, infact she breaks it. She is bold and outgoing and appears wilful and arrogant when told what to do. She is a rebel yet values relationships.
She is not vindictive towards the coterie of. Avdoot. She does not reveal the truth to the principal though she could have rattled.
It is her demand to enter Vatsalya "s
Room that helps us understand the colourless life he led. where things were painted black and white. There was no mid path. He has to abide or as he thought run away. He was not decisive to take a stance as he did not have to seek or struggle for anything. Being born with a platinum spoon, he got everything handed to him. Infact surpassing his father in the line up.
Anami had to struggle to cope to defend herself and thoseshe loves and cares for. Her heart rejoices at simple things.she does not need anything from others. even in whatt she calls her vanvass or her make over bid or joining college. She is never in he receiving end She is perceptive of the anxiety of Gayathri, she alievates her pain gives her the coin and is willing to let her touch her hair strikes a deal with Baldev regarding the DNA test. In her labelling and name calling She is ruthless both in Baneras and LM.
The way she foils Pujan's bid to take over her space, the way she throws the pagdi in flames establishing she does not need it or the chain to signify her noble blood or define her identity.
The way she uses the phone to gather evidence against Pujan the risks she takes to enter with Adi into the den of Pujan, the way she tries to negotiate her perspective with Sudha sets her as being a fighter like Satrupa which is claimed by her when Baldev taunts her today.
The college admission scene of responding to the innane quiz she is subjected to and the way it was established how she gathered knowledge from every day iccourances and material she stumbled upon like the newspaper used for wrapping the treat makes her street smart and worldly wise unlike what LM gave the 3 boys raised there.
Narotham can execute his mother's bidding Anami has the ability to thwart every vyuh people lead her into.
She was the antidote to Adis pain then he is today to her. The ease with which their support to each other is progressing is indeed beautiful.
They have found their match in their righteousness, their trust in and for the other, the discernment and the moves
Anami does not hesitate to question Gayathri on Narotham. She rejects the laptop offered through she accepts the phone from CBI.
She wears her tresses and is comfortable with her looks, she gives her luck charm to Dadi like the gift of protection she accepted from Vatsalya.
She will be the change that LM needs, she will not become the means for Sudha to destroy the nest she will now unknowingly be the means the trap gets laid but she will be the one that breaks it and liberates them from the conditioned upbringing from resorting to foul means to achieve what they intend to achieve. For evoking fear and hate.She may give Narotham his due share but she will be the harbinger . She will be SPs Nayi Soch
A lovely episode indeed and beautiful analysis as always Shruthi Ammu and Athene
Edited by moonwearer - 7 years ago
shruthiravi thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 7 years ago
Yes Athene it was a very heart warming episode, not for not having those shrieking and shouting, but also for the fact that Adhiraj saved her. It was visible to her and to Satrupa or to those whom it mattered.
I was worrying at every step when Adhi was fighting with gunda, what if Narotham saves her, he brings her home, then Adi might have initiated it but for Anami it might look like Narotham, which we see in half the soaps. But here it was Adi and Adhi alone, the protector.

Yes Anami had built her defense system. This I would say comes from the upbringing her foster parents have given her where she is not conditioned to be a abla nari. To follow the manners at every step to be a good bahu and then a good mother giving a heir by that a male child. Her presence of mind to call Adhi was remarkable and it is that aspect that makes her a fighter unlike Vatsalya who was shielded from the outside world.

@vidya yes after Durga of EHT, Anami has to be the nayi soch character of SP. And in EHT Dev was also a nayi soch character and Adhiraj also fits the bill of a nayi soch character. He is not a stereotype. In fact I would say both of them are humans with their share of good and bad about them, both not only having principles and values but are willing to walk on it. I would say both of them dont need the crown, but the crown will come searching for them.
simran_singh_24 thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 7 years ago
Shruthi,Athene,Ammu & Moon- lovely discussion girls, loved reading your takes.👏

I found the fight scene really hilarious, the guy jumped on AR and he was pulling his hair!I was loling all thr', probably they got carried away doing it in a college.😆

I loved the search & rescue of Anami by AR. He looked as worried as he was when he was rushing to Tanya's side when she called him. In fact he looked more worried and pumped up to me.Pleased with Illa doing her duty even tho' she rolled her eyes at him saying,"Anami can't just hang up on me, w.o telling me something".
His priorities are right, he'll save life before catching a criminal.
Satrupa was ever so sharp, "how did you know" and loved the look on the trio,anami,Adhi&Poonam, being caught.😆 Ankit was really good looking down being caught and assuming his officer's hat to cook up a story on the spot based on half truths . AR even managed to get some time alone with Anami.👍🏼

I'm quite impressed with the execution of AA scenes.He maintained his professionalism and didn't sit on her bed or act very familiar like he did the previous night.
If he had got any closer,the scene would've come out quite intimate since it's a bedroom.
Hats off to Cvs in maintaining the decorum and still conveying their budding love.👏
I liked their hand-holding scene, i think Anami felt a spark of awareness this time, remember it was Adhi who sat holding his hand listening to romantic songs, may be it'll be anami this time.

Narotam- disturbed me y'day. More than him not bothering about anami's safety, i din't except much form a man who stole a dead boy's toys &clothes to manipulate a grieving old man.
The way he readily took the knife that Sudha gave him to kill the OTT hitman was chilling.
He had no hesitation in going to brutally murder someone,because Mom said so.
I don't know whether someone like him can be brought to normalcy, Sudha has raised a hitman,who can't think for himself.

I want a new man for Tanya, another younger office or a college sports guy.Pujan and Sudah's sons don't deserve her and i hope Dheeru & Adhi save Tanya from their machinations.

Hmm.. Satrupa offered snacks to AR, symbolic hint to her forming a bond with him?
I hope she doesn't kill the kidnapper and passes him on to Adhi.

The key difference find between Anami & rest of her nuclear family (VAts,Devruapa) is she's constantly challenging the system and not afraid to assert herself,which the others don't do.
Baldev cribs,acting as if he is victimized by it and Vatsalya wanted to run away and Saturpa works it to her advantage,while being part of it.
Yes, Shruthi that's where she becomes nayi soch.
shruthiravi thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 7 years ago
@Simran AR will fight his feelings mostly because Anami is underage. Anami will also fight her feelings because she wants to go back to benaras after her vanvas. That's why ho gaya hai tujho tho pyar sajna was chosen for them. He says he might never come to benaras and they might never meet again.
Actually it reminded me of Simran inviting Raj for her wedding and asking him whether he will come and he says no. But he goes. He goes for her because she wants him that cowbell. It tells him what she wants though Simran never confesses her feelings for Raj. Yesterday phone call by Anami and Adhi going madly to college reminded me of DDLJ. It looked a random event, it was not a random event.

Yaa Adhi the friend and Adhi the CBI officer is needed in the scenario. Friend who knew something was wrong. Officer who traced the location and showed the power to enter the premises.

Narotham is mind controlled by Sudha. She presses the remote that he is. I dont know if he can come back to normalcy. Very difficult, but not impossible.

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".