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lamina i want to tell u personally all tht u r talking abt has been answered by ashita nitz myself ova n ova plz read all of tht!......
everyone has best explained wat ashi was n if u inspite of reading tht n watching whole of remix......u say ashi cud least connect wid uvs pain n his feelings ......then i dnt hav nething more to explain.....actually i hav got a lott to explain bt wen inspite of watching remix u think tht way 4 ashi then my explainations will not mean a thing!....agreed uv was much expressive then ashi.......bt certain ppl hav a different way of expressing.....she was certainly not like uv or tia or ranveer......bt y do u think uv luved her sooo much more than nething in the world??? bcoz she cudnt connect to his feelings u think? wen tia does sumthing wrong it is bcoz the situation was such bt wen ashi does sumthing wrong its her ego n selfishness n superiority complex? y?? jus u thinking ashi was ruthless n calling ashi selfish n thinking she took pleasure in hurting uv will not change the truth! coz the truth is ther 4 everyone to see ......if i may say..... ashi shud b the last person in maurya to b called selfish n self centred!
true love is having the courage to be urself ,with all ur imperfection, with the person u love...without the need to put a brave front...and know that their feelings for u wont change no matter even if they c u at ur worst....its being ok with being vulnerable in front of someone...allowing them to see ur weak side...ranveer and tia know each other's imperfections...many a times they share their insecurities only with each other no one else....when ranny lost the volleyball match...tia was the only one he shared his hurt with...and tia was the only one who understood it without him saying it....everyone else was roaming ard pissed at vicky...he has been vulnerable and broken down with tia when she told him abt his dad...no one else ...she was there understanding him and supporting him....tia too lets ranveer know abt her imperfections...accepts them with him...something she wouldnt do with everyone....ranveer too knows what tia truely is..he know that under the facade of fashion and make-up she is really a emotional and simple girl at heart...this isnt something which she lets everyone see ....and something which not everyone has bothered looking at....yes they have stared at each other...yes they have cuddled...held hands...but thats not the only way they have expressed their love...tia and ranny too have the courage to point out to each other when they r wrong...they saw each other broken down, hurt, angry...at their worst...and yet they couldnt stop loving each other
you done us all proud((t r fans) and i take this liberty on the behalf of all tr fans that we are totally with you..we are very very proud of you.👏..👏👏
Originally posted by: rakhi_uv
lamina i want to tell u personally all tht u r talking abt has been answered by ashita nitz myself ova n ova plz read all of tht!......
everyone has best explained wat ashi was n if u inspite of reading tht n watching whole of remix......u say ashi cud least connect wid uvs pain n his feelings ......then i dnt hav nething more to explain.....actually i hav got a lott to explain bt wen inspite of watching remix u think tht way 4 ashi then my explainations will not mean a thing!....agreed uv was much expressive then ashi.......bt certain ppl hav a different way of expressing.....she was certainly not like uv or tia or ranveer......bt y do u think uv luved her sooo much more than nething in the world??? bcoz she cudnt connect to his feelings u think? wen tia does sumthing wrong it is bcoz the situation was such bt wen ashi does sumthing wrong its her ego n selfishness n superiority complex? y?? jus u thinking ashi was ruthless n calling ashi selfish n thinking she took pleasure in hurting uv will not change the truth! coz the truth is ther 4 everyone to see ......if i may say..... ashi shud b the last person in maurya to b called selfish n self centred!
Rakhi....if u feel i ask the same questions...well even i feel u all give the same std answer when any question is asked....the answer shweyasi's question on ashi being unreal is the same when i say ashi is real but make too many mistakes for them to be just passed on as mere mistakes...if ur answers were different...my questions would have changed
when i said it was ok ashi hated tia...but y her sad behaviour towards sonia...the explaination given was that sonia was beautiful it was natural for ashi to think that everyone liked her and that this was sonia's fault....then it ws pointed that ashi and sonia's relation is wonderful and perfect and tia and sumeet's isnt...was that supposed to the answer to my question on y ashi was rude to sonia...again i was pointed out that she was spunky only not rude....now the blame was shifted to sonia...saying that if parents are wrong it should be pointed out.... well to clarify on that one..sonia was a wonderful parent...and she loved ashi like crazy...even u all have agreed to that...so please point me the mistakes that sonia made for ashi to point out...again it was told to me that ashi love sonia..i never said other wise...but that doesnt take away from the fact that she was jealous of sonia...and always put her happiness in front of sonia...not caring if sonia got hurt...that was my point...i know that u all have forgotten the prof i spoke of...so let me remind u that part...right in the begining of remix there was a prof who really liked sonia...but ashi could not see this happen...so she started hitting on the prof ...flirting with him...in case u could see that epi...please atleast read the update on that epi...i was told that ashi was only fond of puneet and that it was puneet who forced her to go skating...yes puneet forced her to go skating..but that was to clear air between them...to let her know that he could only be friends with her...to try and disssolve some of the tension between ashi and sonia...but ashi on the other hand...told him clearly that he should be with her and not sonia....i am surprised as to how u could have forgotten about that part...what do these two incidents tell u....that she put herself before her mom's happiness...i would call this being selfish and self centered...i am sure u wont agree with me...
tia is always called selfish and self centered...why because she focuses sometimes on her make-up and fashion before getting on to the bigger problems in front of her.....how convinient of u to forget all the incidents when she put everyone else before her happiness...hoe convinient of u to forget that she was the one who first realised that sonia was feeling down and lonely...and was the one who forced ashi to go n have a word with sonia..how convinient of u to forget that when pri wrote the fake letter and was making vrinda leave skool...tia risked her friendship and told ranveer....so that vrinda wouldnt have to pay for pri's silliness...how covinient of u to forget all the times when tia backed away from ranveer for pri's sake....sang a song from pri's side for ranveer because pri's asked her too...even though she felt so strongtly for ranveer....made a card for ranveer for pri because pri asked her too..how convinient of u to forget that tia was the only one who stood by and helped meher post sahil issue when no one was even willing to talk to her.... ...for ashi..acc to u all as well....sonia was supposed to the most imp person in her life right...and yet sonia's happiness took second priority in ashi's life so many times....with tia even her friends took first priority over her happiness many a times...thats being selfish and self centered according to u right????
tia is supposed to be wrong because she supposedly need sonia's for advice in many cases....well what is so wrong in asking for advice from ppl u trust..r we god for us to know answers to all problems???...the truth is there are always going to be situations when there is going to be someone ard us who knows better than us...and its not wrong in acknowledging that..give them some credit for knowing better....its ok to come up with ur way of solving a problem....but aleast listen to someone else's suggestion before deciding what might be the best solution....ur solution cant always be best .....ur solution cant be the best always...but according to ashi it is...when she told everyone abt the concert...the charity one...she never told anyone what she was trying to do...but expected everyone to automatically belive that the concert that she was talking abt had to the better than the one uv brought...y???....once everyone found out what the concert was they stood by her...y not tell them before...y create the whole fight?? it wasnt just this situation when ashi felt everyone had to listen to her ..and the she suggested the best solution.....she has done this always....and thats thinking u r superior....acc to to ashi even making a bust of butt in class was supposed to be rebelious..was ok...as if she had the right to do that and no one had the right to question her on that....for ashi making a portrait of her family in the loo was ok as well....honestly speaking...that wasnt just a prank...that was mocking vipul...that was mocking someone who was trying to help her...trying to tell them that she didnt need anyone any help that she was perfect...above everyone ....for her to need help....what that called....superiority?? ...i am sure i will get a big thesis explaining her butt bust or the portrait...but even when u r trying to justify those actions to me...just for ur own self...no need to accept it all n....but try and think if thats ok
in love u cant choose who u fall in love with...uv fell in love with ashi that was that....that doesnt mean that she understood him better than he understood her...i am sure that u r going to say that i bring up the same scenes again n again...but when the island party was planned...uv was so excited...he wanted to be the one who invited ashi...and what did she do...humiliate him...was that her understanding him??....ok so ashi doesnt express openly her emotions acc to u....but when she dreams...thats her expressing thing to herself only right???...what was it when during elections she dreamt that she had won and uv was sweeping floors...why was she smirking when she saw this dream....didnt it mean that it was more imp for her to win and defeat uv....she showed that even when she stood for elections.....everything uv did was supposed to be a publicity stunt after that....was that understanding uv...was that understanding uv when she accused him (when acc to u all she didnt really believe that he had done anything wrong)...uv on the other hand was a better person when he accepted what sid had done...and tried to withdraw...even when he hadnt done anything wrong...rakhi the truth is...even if by saying this i am saying that uv loved ashi more than ashi loved uv..u will take this as an offence and fight me....and thats the truth!!!
it also been said that ashi uv are better because after break-up they gave a new name to their relation....and at the same time its also said that they never stopped loving each other...if u still feel as much love for each other as u always did...then by claiming that its friendship all u r doing is trying to hide those same feelings behind a new title...changing the name doesnt change feelings...and if doesnt change feeling - then u r just lying to urself....the new title/ friendship would have have only been true if u stopped feeling that love for eachother and actually became only friends nothing more....love hidden under anyother title is still love....so which is it...where they just hiding behind the title...or did they just became friends nothing more...??? yes there is some love in friendship...but that love is very very different from romantic love...if ashi n uv had to be friends they would have had to forget all abt the love they felt when they were together...if they were being friends in the true sense...there is some small bit of friendship even in romantic love...but claiming that thats all there is to romantic love is lying as well....in case u couldnt comprehend the complexity of what i am trying to say...let me make it clear....if u r friends in truest sense...u cant still be "in love" with each other...and if u r "in love" with eachother than frienship isnt all that can be there between u....there is loads more than that...and by claiming that ur r just friends u r lying to eachother and urself abt it....so which was it with AY???...with TR i can honestly say that they never fell out of love with each other...and when they said they were friends they both knew that they were hiding their feelings behind this...actually everyone ard them knew this.
if AY never fell out of love...then they too like TR were lying ...they never formed a new relation.....and if they became only friends then they fell out of love
again...i am going to highlight what aditya said...if u want to put a point across do that with out being disrespectful aleast to ur fellow IF-ians....i have tried hard to do that...i know after a point in time i have replied back in the same language as was directed to me (not something i am proud of)...but seriously calling me or anyone else unfortunate or blind or giving explaintions such as this is crap and sleezy ..or even mocking anyone doesnt prove any point...it just shows frustration....
if u can fight without mocking and putting ur fellow IF-ians down let me know....and we will continue this debate....otherwise i have better things to do that being the on the other side of anyone's mockery!!
exactly my point.people may say that it is a war or clash of opinions or views.people may say that it is immaturish on my part to say these things.but the fact of the matter is the language used for fellow rfians isn't what you call "reverant".
what makes me feel bad and suddenly out of place is there are some very old members of the forum here,who are taking time for indulging themselves in this debate,and they are not getting the exact "perfect" welcome,and yes i am referring to ashita,lamina,and some of the old ones who command respect not because they are old members,but they have continued being strong in this huge r.f
aditya
Firstly…its very very difficult to make u realize d realities of ashis carechter……coz u dnt want to understand her as she is……or rather u can never ever realize her true self……..u say ashi cares for uv just as a mare frnd and uv always cared for…firstly…thanks for having d courage to aknowledge uvs feelings…and secondly u cannot categorize care into seprate compartments..daat dis person is my lover so he cares for me as a lover..dis is my frnd so he cares for me as a frnd……care is just care..either its dere or its not…….and ashi always cared for him in her own way……why…dnt u rember d sceen wen mitra had snatched uv's guitar and poor poor sid had cme running towards her to help uv out…and ashi had done just daat..she had sweeped d guitaar right frm under mitras nose and given it bac to him..didn't u see d amnt of care n love in her eyes at daat time..or u hav forgotten to differentiate between stares and real love….why..dey hav even played d whistle tune in dis sceen..which according to sme tia ranveer fans is d only symbol of deir love……..neways what I mean is daat its not necessary for a person to state to d whole world daat I care for so n so and I can do nethng for him…dese thngs r but obvious wen u r in a relationship..and u shld hav enough trust in ur self and ur relations to be assured dat cme wat may she wld care for me……..yaa ashi never stated 24*7 daat uv I care for u sweetheart u r my lifee…..well frankly repeating dese sentences dnt make ne sense……..except daat it's a kind of ressuarance to d person whos saying dis again n again daat ya I relay love him…..maybe tia neded to remind herself again n again daat she cared for ranveer…m sure it wld hav been tough for her to rember dis plane simple fact amidst d burdone of her make-up………..if u say daat ashi only advised him for d heck of it..den why did uv was never ever as open to ranveer or sid as he was to her..why did ranveer had to cme running after ashi wen uvs mum had left him…and beg to her to plz plz plz talk to him…dese were his words..ashi uv sirf aapky sunte hain..aur ager aap unse baat karengy to wo zaror apny problem bata denge…….well if she were just a frnd..den uv had loads of frnds..ranveer being a perfect frnd so saintly daat he commited no mistakes…but he too failed wid uv..why..wats d differance…..d difference is love….coupled wid true frndship………….
Just coz ashi uv faught aaalways daat doesn't imply ashi lacked in ne whoch way in her feelings towards uv………for d ashi uv fans dese fights were very very very special..thank god daat dey faught and made us laugh smile cry…rather daan just being quite like sme statues who cld do nthng but stare at each other…….deir love doesn't require dem to stay wid each other throughout d day….it does not mean daat in deir love dey become so blind daat dey become alien to d rest of d world……deir love was deir strength just coz of d fact daat it has d freedome to give each other ample amount of space…had daat space not been dere…not only dem even we ashi uv fans wld hav been stifled..coz n overdose of nethng is poison…and daat toxic poison created by d overdose of tia ranveer ultimately led to d end of remix itself…….…..ashi uv had much more to deir lives daan just sitting and talking to deir own reflection in d mirror and just thinking abt each other…….just coz u spend d whole day in tention by crying for ur love..daat doesn't mean daat u r d most pure expression of love……ashi can never spend d whole day worrying and cribbing..she wld rather think of a permanent solution…solve d problem and den party hard wid her rockstar…daats what life is abt…taking d problems as dey cme and making an endevur to remove it rather daan sitting and telling d other person..tias wid u…and evrythng wld be fine…… ashi uv hav d freedome to lead deir own lives as n individual and at d same time dey feel for each other so strongly daat dey cld even lay deir lives for each other widout even thinking for a split of a macrosecond……….rember d black gang episodes…ranveer and uv were stuck in a room wid fire..and ashi was desparate to get in daat room to save uv..all daat she cared was uv..why was tia not dere…coz she wa unaware..or coz at dis time too she wld be confused to think of her hair n skin first and den abt ranveer…….neways ashi was dere very much dere…and ready to lay her life for him..at a point wen neither hav truely realized each others feelings..neither of dem hav said ne words of love to each other…but as I said before words doesn't matter…… u dnt need ne proofs for reality……. Ashi proved her feelings here and just widin mins yuvi proved his own feelings wen he daringly saved ashi frm nikhil…….and mind it..all dis happened wen ashi uv were amidst tangles f fights…but deir fights r not never ever deir weakness..its deir own sweet way to exoress deir love deir like deir frndship……yaa but tia ranveer fights always displayed deir helplessness deir hatered deir dislike….amd I cam certainly understand now daat why tia ranveer fans hav dis fight phobia…..to me dis incedent was a much better expression of love..even though it was unsaid..hidden in d cloude of fights and frndship….daan d kidnapping drama…….yaa tia went dere and saved ranveer…..but so waats d big deal in it…just coz d princess has no experience of handling such people and she can never go all alone newhere…daat doesn't mean it was way tooo much of n effort…had ashi been dere she wld not only hav saved ranveer but wld hav saved d money to she wld hav faught wid d kidnappers bravely..rather daan suduing to such people……well tia was ranveers girlfrnd and it was a duty of hers to save him in all possible ways..at least for once she was saved frm d shame of ranveer being helped by ashi first…….but actualyy…dis time too ashi was d one who realy helped him in d true sense…..coz tia ahujas belief on ranveer was washed away by just d presence of one bag and d talks of raghu…wooo..wat eternal belief yaar………tia said she doubted him coz he had planned revenge…but was daat revenge not long forgotten..so does dis mean daat tia did not forgave him in d true sense…..does dis mean she wld easily be swayed by other peoples belief..like she did wen shy told her abt d rumours being spread by others…….in case of ashi uv d bet came once and was forgotten forever…coz dey hav faith in each others feelings..and above all coz dey did no hide nethng frm each other..dey had d power to say ne damm thing to each other..and make d other person fully aware of deir true self……. And above all daat besides love dey shared a beutyful bond of frndship……which is much much more selfless daan love………..
U said ashi Sonya had spend deir whole lives together…let me remind u daat d lack of time was one of d major complains ashi had frm Sonya….half of d second season..Sonya wasn't even dere wid her……but sonyas daughter was strong enough to handle her problems on her own…she didn't spend time wid summeet not coz she never made d effort..but coz she never felt d need to spend time wid him..coz she got enough love n care frm her mum…and above all she was independent enough to tace care of herself and she did not hav it in her to trust someone so much daat she cld share her life problems wid him..at least not wid someone who was an outsider….how cld she rely on him more daan her mum…….but tia relied on d mother of hr so called enemy…and den was shameless enough to be thankful to ashi daat she didn't mind her mum spending time wid tia…..coz if ashi had wished..she cld hav very well stopped Sonya frm being wid tia..and we all knw daat Sonya cld sacrifice nethng for ashi..so tia was just a little angel..right…….but ashi was never ever so so selfish and mean…infact she took her mums help so many times to bring tia ranveer together……and u urself admitted daat sumeet and tia weren't d best of father daughter…but do u realy feel daat not spending time was d only reason…..dere lacked d basic trust and confidence……..sumeet had tried to bound tia……and tia had never realy grown as a person……..it was only wid d help of Sonya daat she saw d real life……and obviously tia couldn't cross all lines of selfishness and be jealous of her… cld she…and above al she had no need to be jealous of her…coz she had managed to make Sonya her companion and was basking in d company of d ultimate actress…getting al d attention too…but wld she hav been d same if she had been her mum…..here nobody cld compare her wid Sonya..so nothng harmed her image and her beauty…but if her mum was as beautiful as Sonya..and every single day she was told daat shes second best next only to her mum…den she wld hav either become insane or gone to an island and sat dere crying for d rest of her life…………as for d Gloria thng…wel yaa she arranged for d date..but u knw why..to remove her nightmare which she had seen of summet n Sonya dating and ashi getting close to sumeet…..to remove dis insecurity she put her dad across glo..not even caring to find out whether he wld like or not……..i agree ashi sonyas relationships went through turmoils…butit was very very obvious daat dey wld hav dese problems…considering daat dey went trough divorce….dominating dad who wants to rule dem even after divorce……but what more proof do u want..wen ashi had refused to believe all evidence daat vipul gave her for he being her father ….she had defied proof and stod by d wors of her mother…cause she knw d women standing dere was d stability of her life…her strength and in no ways wld she evr evr evr weaken her…….daats wat dey had in deir relation…..belief and trust…..faith daat we r meant to rule d world in whichever way we want………..why..even dis relationship pf ashi..seemes complete to me wid no space for nebody to intervene…….she truly rocks..doesn't she…………
No offence implied to anyone.......its just a clash of views guys..i realy dnt intend to hurt neone...but i wld not leave ne scope to defend my ashi uv.............
Rakhi....if u feel i ask the same questions...well even i feel u all give the same std answer when any question is asked....the answer shweyasi's question on ashi being unreal is the same when i say ashi is real but make too many mistakes for them to be just passed on as mere mistakes...if ur answers were different...my questions would have changed....then y for a change u dnt sort the allegations or qts tr fans hav been asked instead goin on n on accusing AY .....answer sum random qts tht hav been asked to u all? hav u realised actually u all hav already made ay stars of this debate coz its ay who r being discussed more......u accuse them we defend them.......its all abt AY😉 ....well good im happy abt it😃
when i said it was ok ashi hated tia...but y her sad behaviour towards sonia...the explaination given was that sonia was beautiful it was natural for ashi to think that everyone liked her and that this was sonia's fault....then it ws pointed that ashi and sonia's relation is wonderful and perfect and tia and sumeet's isnt...was that supposed to the answer to my question on y ashi was rude to sonia...again i was pointed out that she was spunky only not rude....now the blame was shifted to sonia...saying that if parents are wrong it should be pointed out.... well to clarify on that one..sonia was a wonderful parent...and she loved ashi like crazy...even u all have agreed to that...so please point me the mistakes that sonia made for ashi to point out...again it was told to me that ashi love sonia..i never said other wise...but that doesnt take away from the fact that she was jealous of sonia...and always put her happiness in front of sonia...not caring if sonia got hurt...that was my point...i know that u all have forgotten the prof i spoke of...so let me remind u that part...right in the begining of remix there was a prof who really liked sonia...but ashi could not see this happen...so she started hitting on the prof ...flirting with him...in case u could see that epi...please atleast read the update on that epi...i was told that ashi was only fond of puneet and that it was puneet who forced her to go skating...yes puneet forced her to go skating..but that was to clear air between them...to let her know that he could only be friends with her...to try and disssolve some of the tension between ashi and sonia...but ashi on the other hand...told him clearly that he should be with her and not sonia....i am surprised as to how u could have forgotten about that part...what do these two incidents tell u....that she put herself before her mom's happiness...i would call this being selfish and self centered...i am sure u wont agree with me...ur rite coz i obviously dnt agree😊 firstly i wish to say no relationship is perfect.....n so wasnt ashi-sonias.......u said u dnt want to read big thesis ....fine im not giving u ne coz a lott lott lott has been said abt ashi -sonia relationship by each n every ay fan.......so jus like u gav a brief abt ashi-sonia relationship i'll giv a brief on sumeet-tia relationship.......lets start frm the start😆 if u hav named scnes i too hav a few 4 u.....wat was tias whole strip dance all abt? how was tht supposed to make sumeet feel? tia too has never accepted the woman in sumeets life jus the way ashi hasnt accepted men in her moms life! well here atleast tia was in a better position than ashi......how is ne girl ne girl 4 tht matter supposed to react wen coinincidently all the guys u hav a crush on r actually having a crush on ur mom n being friendly to u jus to get close to sonia? so atleast tia dint hav to go thru this......u'll say im putting up qts in return of ur qts bt i think enuff has been said abt sonia-ashi relationship ....besides u dnt want thesis too rite? its ok if u dnt answer them im just comparing the lives of these two gals .....n trying to show u tht both hav reacted the same way wen it came to their parents! i dont think ne1 has pointed to sonia n said she was wrong......niether was sonias beauty n profession her mistake .....not atall......bt then is it ashis fault tht everytime she has a crush on sumone it ends up wid the guy having a crush on her mom? if u can jusitify tias strip dance then cant this behaviour of ashi b justified......n wen ther was real need ashi has always supported her mom wen she needed to b! they both hav always shared a relation of friendship rather than the streotypical mom-dotty relationship! as smriti had said ashi joined maurya 4 sonia itself.....a place she hated ....a place she dint hav ne frnds.....a place wher ther were tia n uv to always trouble her rite frm the start! yet she stayed ther only so tht sonia dusnt loose her custody!...ther r plenty such instances to prove ashi loved sonia back too n equally as much as sonia jus her way of expressing was different! n yes she has played the biggest pranks of all times bt who said sonia was hurt coz of her pranks? infact sonia herself always had a laff abt her pranks.......wen ashi was hurt after the break up n had becum a bit quite she herself insisted ashi on going back to herself n scream n shout like her mum mum wud......i particularly remeber tht scne in thhe canteen .....so whoever said sonia was hurt? yea wen she thot of leaving the country she was hurt.......bt ashi didnt make up for it.....in the best n most touching way didnt she? then y talk in ifs n buts......if this happened n tht happened?
tia is always called selfish and self centeredexcuse me thts wat u hav cald ashi ...why because she focuses sometimes on her make-up and fashion before getting on to the bigger problems in front of her.....how convinient of u to forget all the incidents when she put everyone else before her happiness...hoe convinient of u to forget that she was the one who first realised that sonia was feeling down and lonelit was jus a coincidence tht she happened to see sonia in tht state......dint ashi equally support tia in the getting their parents together?...and was the one who forced ashi to go n have a word with sonia..how convinient of u to forget that when pri wrote the fake letter and was making vrinda leave skool...tia risked her friendship and told ranveer....so that vrinda wouldnt have to pay for pri's sillinesstthe same way u 4got the scene wen ay both stopped vrinda frm leaving maurya n doing a job as her mom had written in the lettern decided to help vrinda financially ....wen u said ay never had sleepless nites 4 ne1...how covinient of u to forget all the times when tia backed away from ranveer for pri's sake....sang a song from pri's side for ranveer because pri's asked her too...even though she felt so strongtly for ranveer rd for ranveer for pri because pri asked her too..how convinient of u to forget that tia was the only one who stood by and helped meher post sahil issue when no one was even willing to talk to her. s supposed to the most imp person in her life right...and yet sonia's happiness took second priority in ashi's life so many times....with tia even her friends took first priority over her happiness many a times...thats being selfish and self centered according to u right???if u talk abt pri n meher n tias case.....i hav mentioned vrinda n given an instance too to prove ay werent ruthless.....n now i'll refresh mps case 4 u.....dint she stand by mp n dared to fite sum1 like arjun soo many times.....as long as mp stayed in maurya! how convinient 4 u to 4get ashi got mp n varun together 4 ashi too her frnds were always her priority....n wid ranveer n her frndship wid him i can giv u all the links to scnes how ashi ahs supported him no matter wat......rite frm the start till the end? wat do u hav to say abt ashi as a frnd to this now? not only this ay helped aman nakool.....pri also.....gave latty a second chance.....n soo much more......did u 4get the whole black gang thingy? who initiated to get all of them? n most most most of all ......the guy she turned uv into! u hav never accused uv n always said he was a better person.......thts all thanks to ashi! the guy uv was in the beginning n the man he was in the end.....if u call him a 'better person' its major share n only credit goes to ashi........she has always got him to thr rite tracks .....by sumtimes supporting him sumtimes going against him......sum times in love sumtimes in hatred........n sumtimes as a frnd! uv himself said always ashi made him soo firm frm within sooo independent tht he felt he cud handle nething in life! still ashi is selfish!
tia is supposed to be wrong because she supposedly need sonia's for advice in many cases....well what is so wrong in asking for advice from ppl u trust..r we god for us to know answers to all problems???...the truth is there are always going to be situations when there is going to be someone ard us who knows better than us...and its not wrong in acknowledging that..give them some credit for knowing better....its ok to come up with ur way of solving a problem....but aleast listen to someone else's suggestion before deciding what might be the best solution....ur solution cant always be best .....ur solution cant be the best always...but according to ashi it is...when she told everyone abt the concert...the charity one...she never told anyone what she was trying to do...but expected everyone to automatically belive that the concert that she was talking abt had to the better than the one uv brought...y???....once everyone found out what the concert was they stood by her...y not tell them before...y create the whole fight?again my dear do u want to watch the scene ? ashi never was given a chance to speak n tell them wat her plan was......uv n tia were far too busy in telling her tht the band can b better off widout her....n they dont need her! do watch the scne again.....in the canteen even vrinda asks her y dint u tell them its a charity show.....n ashi says they never gave her a chance to explain!? it wasnt just this situation when ashi felt everyone had to listen to her ..and the she suggested the best solution.....she has done this always....and thats thinking u r superior....acc to to ashi even making a bust of butt in class was supposed to be rebelious..was ok...as if she had the right to do that and no one had the right to question her on that....for ashi making a portrait of her family in the loo was ok as well....honestly speaking...that wasnt just a prank...that was mocking vipul...that was mocking someone who was trying to help her...trying to tell them that she didnt need anyone any help that she was perfect...above everyone ....for her to need help....what that called....superiority?? ...i am sure i will get a big thesis explaining her butt bust or the portrait...but even when u r trying to justify those actions to me...just for ur own self...no need to accept it all n....but try and think if thats oktell me one thing honestly did u laff watching those scenes or not? had ashi not played those pranks n done those silly things.....n ay wudnt hav fought 4 stupid reasons like the spider thingy n the ice cream scene.....i wudnt b such a huge fan of theirs n b defending them here lamina.....wat wud remix b widout all those scenes ....n silliness n pranks n fites? let me tell u im not here to prove ashi was perfect.....im here to prove only tht inspite all these pranks n everything her heart was in the rite place......n deep down in her a very matured n emotional girl lied which nobody except sonia n uv had seen! how can u mention all those scenees tht u hav had a good laff abt once ......n now point them as ashis stupidity! wat do suppose ashi to b then a xerox of tia? only then wud u call her good?
in love u cant choose who u fall in love with...uv fell in love with ashi that was that....that doesnt mean that she understood him better than he understood her...i am sure that u r going to say that i bring up the same scenes again n again...but when the island party was planned...uv was so excited...he wanted to be the one who invited ashi...and what did she do...humiliate him...was that her understanding him??....ok so ashi doesnt express openly her emotions acc to u....but when she dreams...thats her expressing thing to herself only right???...what was it when during elections she dreamt that she had won and uv was sweeping floors...why was she smirking when she saw this dream....didnt it mean that it was more imp for her to win and defeat uv....she showed that even when she stood for elections.....everything uv did was supposed to be a publicity stunt after that....was that understanding uv...was that understanding uv when she accused him (when acc to u all she didnt really believe that he had done anything wrong)...uv on the other hand was a better person when he accepted what sid had done...and tried to withdraw...even when he hadnt done anything wrong...rakhi the truth is...even if by saying this i am saying that uv loved ashi more than ashi loved uv..u will take this as an offence and fight me....and thats the truth!!! again i will say wat i've pointed above dont point to those funny scnes of remix n those stupid fites of ay coz they meant nothing they were just the fun element of the show......n it were those cute silly fites tht hav made ay sooo special to us! going to election thing.....firstly ashi always knew yashwant dev is only using uv .....she very well knew it tht he wud totally dominate maurya after uv won.....n wudnt do ne good to students of maurya so she decided to fite against uv.....not bcoz she took pleasure in defeating uv!...... she waited 4 sum1 to stand up against him bt no1 came fowrad so she decided to take it on herself 4 uvs n mauryas sake.....it was nt sumthing like she was waiting 4 this n wen she got a chance she jumped on it to take pleasure in hurting uv as u think!n y talk in ifs n buts? yes it was indeed very kind of uv wen he offered her the precidency wen he knew how he had won........bt instead of talking in ifs n buts y dont u see wat ashi did? she shared her precidency wid him coz she too realised uv was unaware of all his dads deeds! ashi is still selfish n self centered no after all this?
it also been said that ashi uv are better because after break-up they gave a new name to their relation....and at the same time its also said that they never stopped loving each other...if u still feel as much love for each other as u always did...then by claiming that its friendship all u r doing is trying to hide those same feelings behind a new title...changing the name doesnt change feelings...and if doesnt change feeling - then u r just lying to urself....the new title/ friendship would have have only been true if u stopped feeling that love for eachother and actually became only friends nothing more....love hidden under anyother title is still love....so which is it...where they just hiding behind the title...or did they just became friends nothing more...??? yes there is some love in friendship...but that love is very very different from romantic love...if ashi n uv had to be friends they would have had to forget all abt the love they felt when they were together...if they were being friends in the true sense...there is some small bit of friendship even in romantic love...but claiming that thats all there is to romantic love is lying as well....in case u couldnt comprehend the complexity of what i am trying to say...let me make it clear....if u r friends in truest sense...u cant still be "in love" with each other...and if u r "in love" with eachother than frienship isnt all that can be there between u....there is loads more than that...and by claiming that ur r just friends u r lying to eachother and urself abt it....so which was it with AY???...with TR i can honestly say that they never fell out of love with each other...and when they said they were friends they both knew that they were hiding their feelings behind this...actually everyone ard them knew this.
if AY never fell out of love...then they too like TR were lying ...they never formed a new relation.....and if they became only friends then they fell out of love
now now u r contradicting urself by tht.....once u say ay behaved only as frnds n hav been advicing each other only in a friendly manner ....thts wat u said earlier n now u say ay were liers coz they always luved each other secretly?? wat ? do uthink they were less passionate n only frnds or do want to say they luved each other intensely?
firstly unlike tr ....ay took very long to realise they luved ech other.......secondly it was unfortunate they were in the middle of a bet wen they realised they r in love.......so the break up was obvious........n how can u 4get n not remember the moments u spent with ur first love? wen u meet the person daily ....is it possible to 4get ur love completely? its human to remember those moments! u know wid ay love n friendship went hand in hand.....wen they needed a frnd they were each others frnds n wen they needed love .....they were were still there 4 each other as their.support system
whereas in trs case it was all abt love love love! so they cudnt luk to each other in eyes after their break up.......bt ashi uv continued to b normal n going back to themself like they were before dating each other.........coz wen the love element broke frndship still stayed n then again frndship turned to love!
yes aaditya... i agree with you .. lamina doesnot deserve this... ppl if you read her posts you will know that she has never crossed that thin line ..and in fact shreyasi too ...i for one am deeply hurt by he comments directed at my fav pair tia and ranvir ..Originally posted by: aditya_rikh
exactly my point.people may say that it is a war or clash of opinions or views.people may say that it is immaturish on my part to say these things.but the fact of the matter is the language used for fellow rfians isn't what you call "reverant".
what makes me feel bad and suddenly out of place is there are some very old members of the forum here,who are taking time for indulging themselves in this debate,and they are not getting the exact "perfect" welcome,and yes i am referring to ashita,lamina,and some of the old ones who command respect not because they are old members,but they have continued being strong in this huge r.f
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