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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bluemoon255

unfortunately it is always the woman who gets blamed even if the problems lies in the husband. our society have this tendency to blame only women for whatever goes wrong. it is really sad that each time it is the women who become the victim.


coming to rr, I did not like how cvs are dealing with the situation. the words used by mohini while talking about mythili was beyond disgusting. I don't understand why cvs are using such dialogue. I mean there are so many woman who are not able to have children and hearing something like this will cause a lot of pain to them. I think cvs should have taken extra care while handling a sensitive issue like this.



@TM...what the CVs are doing is bringing up an issue that exists in society...and how it is being addressed...One cannot tackle an issue if the issue itself is not shown...

Though its painful to watch people like Mohini is being highlighted just so that Maithli and Samrat as a couple learn to tackle it and viewers learn how to handle such matters when they are faced with it.. And how even intervention by other family members also helps (like Paro & Rudra who will stand by Maithli and Samrat) and their decision to adopt a child...


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rupunzale

hi Minuu...How are you girl😛...I haven't been watching RR lately...just can't relate to anything. Watched it today just to see the new villian but the whole thing was a letdown for me. But I had to make a post today because this whole issue with Maithili/Samrat is extremely repulsive and regressive. I read a recent article about India being a country where female infanticide is at it's extreme. It is just appalling how girl child are been killed and women being punished for not producing a male heir...knowing very well that a male carries the deciding gender sperm. I don't understand...is it just ignorance or the lack of education ?


Hi Priyanka, I am fine dear... Sorry to hear that the episode was a letdown for you... Maithili/Samrat/Mohini issue is very common in real world and I really wish CV's handle it well...

@bold, it is not just ignorance... Unfortunately, it is people deliberately being ignorant to the truth... Not that most of them don't know... It is just that they don't care...

Ironically, this evening I came across this article... Would like to share it with you


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Actually im going through similar situation as i dont want to go in to too much detail in regards my personal life but watching this track hearing such words does get upsetting as i am relating to this as i am affected by this issue. Cvs really need to be careful
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ddFan2012



@TM...what the CVs are doing is bringing up an issue that exists in society...and how it is being addressed...One cannot tackle an issue if the issue itself is not shown...

Though its painful to watch people like Mohini is being highlighted just so that Maithli and Samrat as a couple learn to tackle it and viewers learn how to handle such matters when they are faced with it.. And how even intervention by other family members also helps (like Paro & Rudra who will stand by Maithli and Samrat) and their decision to adopt a child...



I know but is it necessary to use such language? I understand it is necessary to show the pain but many people who are not able to have children can feel absolutely devastated hearing such words. I think I am being extra sensitive because I have seen such things in my personal life so I guess it it hits close to home. I just want them to deal with the issue more sensitively and avoid such language and taunts that brings so much pain to other people.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rupunzale

exactly...next time they ask you such questions...just ask them to zip it up...it's none of their business anyways. Just to let you know...it's great that you have shut them up.

I believe having a child or not having a child...how many children should one have should entirely depend on the couple. For me and my husband...we decided to have one child and we have our beautiful daughter...we are done because we are both working and dedicated to Careers too. It works out fine.


@msin, That is so disturbing... How could educated people do such things? It is not that uneducated people doing it is justified... At least we can say that they don't have knowledge.. And the worst thing is these are all women who are saying this about girl child's.. Disgusting... What is wrong with people? One thing I never understand... How could woman/man kill/abort a fetus just because it is a girl... Just typing this is making feel sick..

@Sherry, 👏👏... That is how these people should be shut up. What is it with people and male child??? this is insane.

@Priyanka, I totally agree... Having, not having, adopting, not adopting, the number of kids must be up to the parents to decide not the society or extended family or friends... I too have a beautiful daughter and we both are very happy with having just one child... Lucky for me, everyone in my family love girls... They all pamper her like hell. But few friends and relatives keep pressuring us to have one more.. I was so fed up that I one day asked one of them to move into our house and take care of the second kid saying I can't do complete justice to both of them... It gets hard to explain the same thing to the in-laws though and that's where woman might need man's support.. It is really irritating when they pressure you to have kids.

And Abuse can happen both ways... I saw men who suffered because of their wives/her family and so on... When I first saw it, I was shocked but now, I understand that it is common too.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Hope



<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Hi Priyanka, I am fine dear... Sorry to hear that the episode was a letdown for you... Maithili/Samrat/Mohini issue is very common in real world and I really wish CV's handle it well...</font>

<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">@bold, it is not just ignorance... Unfortunately, it is people deliberately being ignorant to the truth... Not that most of them don't know... It is just that they don't care...</font>

<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Ironically, this evening I came across this article... Would like to share it with you</font>

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thanks so much for the article...it's very informational. Crimes against women..children...should be voiced ...there has to be a mass awareness.
And believe me I have seen males abused too. Their problems are at a different level and many uaually have to be in lifelong medications.
Edited by Rupunzale - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I totally agrre with Hope's post.
Here is what I posted on Sush's post in reply to similar question.

Yes it is this easy to get a second wife.
Most of household helps in my complex are second wives where husbands are from far away region and they already have a wife and kids back home.

In South India I also came across something called as "Chinna Veedu".(Menas small house referring to the second wife) Why go far? You will find some politicians also having 2 wives.

I have seen a person marrying again when he has only daughters from his first wife. (In order to get a son) and remember In rural India it is still community panchayats where people seek justice. All these laws are utilized mostly by urbans.
In show it is shown that Shatabdi is 31 which is very late for a girl to marry and get a suitable husband in many communities.

Another sad situation is - There are many communities now where M to F sex ratio is so askew that they dont get girls to marry from their own community!


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: vallu123

samrat re marriage track is ugly but true... my aunt was childless for 10 years n she had to go through hell ...later on it was found out that her husband is infertile...n finally they adopted a baby girl... n let me tell you she was married in a very well to do family...somethings are really sick...but m happy that finally my aunt stood firm on her decision that she wants to adopt a girl...

good for your aunt that she took a stand in Adopting a girl child.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: bluemoon255


I know but is it necessary to use such language? I understand it is necessary to show the pain but many people who are not able to have children can feel absolutely devastated hearing such words. I think I am being extra sensitive because I have seen such things in my personal life so I guess it it hits close to home. I just want them to deal with the issue more sensitively and avoid such language and taunts that brings so much pain to other people.



@ TM no its not necessary to use such language and subtlety can be opted for...But at the same time I do not think CV (with a woman at the helm of it) are insensitive to such things or their intention is hurt anyone as such...


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Posted: 11 years ago
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FYI ...

Section 5 of the Hindu Marriage Act of 1955 laid down conditions for a Hindu marriage. A marriage may be solemnized between any two Hindus, if the following conditions are fulfilled, namely:-

(i) neither party has a spouse living at the time of the marriage;
(ii) neither party is an idiot or a lunatic at the time of the marriage;
(iii) the bridegroom has completed the age of twenty one years and the bride the age of eighteen years at the time of the marriage;
(iv) the parties are not within the degrees of prohibited relationship, unless the custom or usage governing each of them permits of a marriage between the two;
(v) the parties are not sapindas of each other, unless the custom or usage governing each of them permits of a marriage between the two

Out of the five above conditions, this article refers to the condition stated under section 5(v), which states that if the Hindu bride and the Hindu groom are "sapindas" of each other, the marriage between the two cannot be solemnized by law and will be legally void.


Wikipedia.


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If Rangrasiya stays true to form, then this should count, count a lot. Samrat legally cannot marry Ms. Lccomotive Breath unless he divorces Mythili.

And vice versa! Legally, Hindu can remarry once they have divorced, for whatever reasons.

They should not have a living spouse. - operative words - living and spouse.

Oh my god, wait! Does that mean Mohini will try to pop Mythili? Hope not.


Sapinda refers to being related by blood - cousins twice or thrice removed. You can look it up under Hindu Marriage Act in Wikipedia.

So, yeah, if a woman finds that her husband cannot father a child, she is legally allowed, as a HIndu and a citizen of India, to divorce said husband and remarry! Not just because he cannot father a child of course, but a woman can divorce a man and remarry under the Hindu Marriages Act.

*Locomotive Breath - song by Jethro Tull.

Edited by Oldestfan - 11 years ago

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