So does a woman have the right to marry again if the man is infertile? - Page 6

Originally posted by: shree10

I totally agrre with Hope's post.
Here is what I posted on Sush's post in reply to similar question.

Yes it is this easy to get a second wife.
Most of household
helps in my complex are second wives where husbands are from far away
region and they already have a wife and kids back home.

In South
India I also came across something called as "Chinna Veedu".(Menas small
house referring to the second wife) Why go far? You will find some
politicians also having 2 wives.

I have seen a person marrying
again when he has only daughters from his first wife. (In order to get a
son) and remember In rural India it is still community panchayats where
people seek justice. All these laws are utilized mostly by urbans.

In show it is shown that Shatabdi is 31 which is very late for a girl
to marry and get a suitable husband in many communities.

Another
sad situation is - There are many communities now where M to F sex
ratio is so askew that they dont get girls to marry from their own
community!

this whole scenario is outrageous. I think to first change India or the corruption has to end...in the recent rape case in India where the two victims were brutalized and then hanged...when asked by a reporter to the politition of the area...his statement was...' Boys will be Boys'...this is what he said and I seriously think the guy should resign for saying that horrendous thing.

Originally posted by: Oldestfan

FYI ...

Section 5 of the Hindu Marriage Act of 1955 laid down
conditions for a Hindu marriage. A marriage may be solemnized
between any two Hindus, if the following conditions are fulfilled, namely:-

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<dd>(i) neither party has a spouse
living at the time of the marriage;</dd></dl>
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<dd>(ii) neither party is an idiot or a
lunatic at the time of the
marriage;</dd></dl>
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<dd>(iii) the bridegroom has completed the age of twenty one years and the
bride the age of eighteen years at the time of the marriage;</dd></dl>
<dl>
<dd>(iv) the parties are not within the degrees of prohibited relationship,
unless the custom or usage governing each of them permits of a marriage between
the two;</dd></dl>
<dl>
<dd>(v) the parties are not sapindas of each other, unless the custom or
usage governing each of them permits of a marriage between the two</dd></dl>

Out of the five above conditions, this article refers to the condition stated
under section 5(v), which states that if the Hindu bride and the Hindu groom are
"sapindas" of each other, the marriage between the two cannot be
solemnized by law and will be legally void.

Wikipedia.

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If Rangrasiya stays true to form, then this should count, count a lot. Samrat legally cannot marry Ms. Lccomotive Breath unless he divorces Mythili.

And vice versa! Legally, Hindu can remarry once they have divorced, for whatever reasons.

They should not have a living spouse. - operative words - living and spouse.

Oh my god, wait! Does that mean Mohini will try to pop Mythili? Hope not.

Sapinda refers to being related by blood - cousins twice or thrice removed. You can look it up under Hindu Marriage Act in Wikipedia.

So, yeah, if a woman finds that her husband cannot father a child, she is legally allowed, as a HIndu and a citizen of India, to divorce said husband and remarry! Not just because he cannot father a child of course, but a woman can divorce a man and remarry under the Hindu Marriages Act.

*Locomotive Breath - song by Jethro Tull.

that is why this track is opting for bigamy because according to the law Samrat cannot marry a second time without divorcing Maithili. Now the interesting thing in a recent article mentioned that he will remarry...looks like Maithili will ask him to.

Okay I don't watch the show, but the topic is interesting to comment. 😆

you have raised valid queries but I am waiting for the show how will it handle this issue.

Originally posted by: Hope

@msin, That is so disturbing... How could educated people do such things? It is not that uneducated people doing it is justified... At least we can say that they don't have knowledge.. And the worst thing is these are all women who are saying this about girl child's.. Disgusting... What is wrong with people? One thing I never understand... How could woman/man kill/abort a fetus just because it is a girl... Just typing this is making feel sick..

@Sherry, 👏👏... That is how these people should be shut up. What is it with people and male child??? this is insane.

@Priyanka, I totally agree... Having, not having, adopting, not adopting, the number of kids must be up to the parents to decide not the society or extended family or friends... I too have a beautiful daughter and we both are very happy with having just one child... Lucky for me, everyone in my family love girls... They all pamper her like hell. But few friends and relatives keep pressuring us to have one more.. I was so fed up that I one day asked one of them to move into our house and take care of the second kid saying I can't do complete justice to both of them... It gets hard to explain the same thing to the in-laws though and that's where woman might need man's support.. It is really irritating when they pressure you to have kids.

And Abuse can happen both ways... I saw men who suffered because of their wives/her family and so on... When I first saw it, I was shocked but now, I understand that it is common too.

As far as I know, bigamy is illegal in India. The status of these so called second wives in India or actually their lack of status comes to light mostly when the husband dies. Yes, Chinna Veedu or Chinna Illu ( Tamil and Telugu, both meaning small home - Chinna -> small and Veedu/Illu -> home) is a widespread practice. However, when it comes to property distribution, its pretty much to one or the other wife and children - whichever can prove the first marriage.

Originally posted by: ...Tanu...

Okay I don't watch the show, but the topic is interesting to comment. 😆

So talking about Indian women being discarded for not being able to bear a child in a marriage. No it is entirely not true. I do live in India and from what I have seen around it is entirely not true. It is the TV shows which always dramatize. A man cannot marry again when a woman cannot give birth. It is not that easy. 😆. It is illegal. Actually many Indian shows show women in a regressive way which is not true. Women are no all compromising, sacrificing.

So if a man divorces wife on the grounds of being infertile, woman can do the same. In both the cases it is not good.

Again I am saying the portrayal of most of the women in Indian shows is far from the reality of actual Indian women.

No my country is not that regressive.

The serials show bigamy which is absolute bakwas. It is not allowed among Hindus. The second marriage will be immediately void.

Glad to know that...may I ask, which part of the country are you from? Yes, tv shows do dramatize a lot. Thanks for commenting.

Originally posted by: dieforasr

this is a serious issue & I loved the way RR dealing with it...TRP aunties ab to jag jao..

I am sure the trps will get better.

Originally posted by: bluemoon255

unfortunately it is always the woman who gets blamed even if the problems lies in the husband. our society have this tendency to blame only women for whatever goes wrong. it is really sad that each time it is the women who become the victim.

coming to rr, I did not like how cvs are dealing with the situation. the words used by mohini while talking about mythili was beyond disgusting. I don't understand why cvs are using such dialogue. I mean there are so many woman who are not able to have children and hearing something like this will cause a lot of pain to them. I think cvs should have taken extra care while handling a sensitive issue like this.

I believe in a patriarchal society the women always gets blamed. It's just uncalled for. I too hope that the cvs handle this track well because it's very sensitive issue to a lot of women. Words can be abusive and hurtful.

Originally posted by: -Sunset-

I don't like mohini... hate is a harsh word... but yes i do "hate" mohini

A message to the CVs: This problem is faced by many families... Please deal with this issue perfectly to make the people realize how cruel they are to a couple when they think about a next marriage...

The amount of pain a couple has to undergo both emotionally and physically (in hospital) is really sad...

Even adoption is looked down upon in many families...

The dialogues used by mohini is disgusting... 😡

Just like "watching violence " all the time by kids is not good...

"watching hate... and disgusting dialogues" all the time by oldies is not good either...

Spread a good message... spread the strength the family should give to a couple which is going thru such a time...

I want RR to be different..

very well said...I hope they send out a message in a subtle way...harsh words are equally abusive.