Right or Wrong? - Edited

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Posted: 11 years ago
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"To regret one's own experiences is to arrest one's own development. To deny one's own experiences is to put a lie into the lips of one's own life. It is no less than a denial of the soul."
Oscar Wilde, De Profundis
Edited - I am very sorry but it seems perhaps I wasn't clear enough with my writing. I am not talking about not forgiving or forgiving Mala, I do not hate her nor do I love her. All I am saying is that she looks disconnected with her surroundings and I do believe that she should be given a chance to be heard by Rudra.
After I watched the show I feel the one who seemed the most disconnected with everything is Mala. I have said many times in my own posts and others that I am absolutely not going to judge her, I have not heard her side and to pass any kind of premature judgement at this stage will be incorrect.
When I think of Mala I think of a nave girl, although, we all know that Mala is not a girl she is a grown woman I meant her mentality. In the precap and also whilst watching the show seemed like she was abused. If that's the case good on her that she left. But even if that wasn't the case I am fine that she left because she fell out of love. What my question is how can a mother be so disconnected with the damage that has obviously been caused to the boy?
If a woman is abused I am sure in this day and age no one will find her at fault. I am sure it is even promoted in villages too. From the precap Dilsher seemed to have both legs and looked all right, not quiet Tejawat's level but okay. Wasn't he the one who wanted to marry Mala? then why the anger?
Mala seems like didn't catch a break when she left Dilsher. From aggressive abuse she moved on to passive abuse and that only was realised when she saw the hubby in real live situation. Why didn't she take her child with her though? Did Dilsher hated Mala but loved Rudra and thought Mala will never leave him? so when she did the unthinkable and did left the leftover poision was transferred over to Rudra?
But if it was abuse then Mala you should have by hook or crook by force or anything should have removed Rudra from Dilsher. She had the means when she moved on and she has gone against her husband number 2's wishes before as well.That is one thing I am not able to reconcile. She didn't tell Tejawat about bringing the boy back until he was an adult who doesn't need to actually live with parents. That bothers me a lot on many levels.
That's why I am assuming is Mala lives in denial. Even when she came back and I get it she is trying to blend in she still seems that Rudra anger's is not that serious. I find Dilsher very selfish in this situation. He knows Rudra's state of mind. More than Paro its Dilsher who knows the extent of the damage to his psyche because he was the one who planted the seed and watered it so it became a tree. Why is Dilsher not sitting down and settling the score? of course the matter is between husband and wife but a child was also involved.
Mala seems to think all will be well at home but what about hubby number 2? shouldn't you be atleast giving a thought to him? I am very confused right now and hope the Cvs show me some plausible story because if I get I was abused so I ran away and now am back I will be severely disappointed. There is no groundwork to begin with but am hoping eventually something will make sense.
Mala is in denial that son hates her to the extent he shows, Dilsher is in denial that Rudra has issues, Paro is trying but unfortunately poor girl can only do so much.
I really really hope that I get to see a proper Mala story. Honeymoon can happen after that but please sort this really weird dish you have created CVs because I am not the only one who will be upset if you stuffed up this baby.
As usual healthy discussion is appreciated.
Edited by evenjleena28 - 11 years ago

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Posted: 11 years ago
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V u spoke my mind exactly , Dilsher is as much as responsible as Mala for Rudra's damage ..
Both husband wife along with their son should disclose and discuss the whole past story and let Rudra decide what he will do with his god forsaken parents !!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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nice post agree with you
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SanzBarbie

V u spoke my mind exactly , Dilsher is as much as responsible as Mala for Rudra's damage ..
Both husband wife along with their son should disclose and discuss the whole past story and let Rudra decide what he will do with his god forsaken parents !!

Hola Manaal🤗
How are you babygirl? I agree that they should discuss the whole story and leave the ball in Rudra's court. For his own healing it is important to at least hear both sides he only know one side that dad gave when he was at his worst.
Forgiveness it depends...I don't care much for that at this stage because everything is so incomplete but at least listening to Mala is fair at this stage.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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HI, I agree with your post, I too as an member of the viewing audience even though I don't contribute to TRP am disconnected with the mother character.

I don't understand how she could have left her child, if that is the case of her being in an abusive marriage with the hero's father, and further she was quite happy with the villain husband for 14 or 15 years, they were romancing, dancing blah blah blah and everything, and now I am supposed to believe that she is this saintly mother.

I am sorry, she can't bury her head in the sand like an ostrich, she shouldn't be lightly forgiven and neither should the father by their son. He is the one that suffered the most, she was with her rose colored glasses playing kissy with villain and living it up as a rich lady and now coming and crying that I am not all that bad, yes lady you are that bad in my opinion. 😆


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Erika1

HI, I agree with your post, I too as an member of the viewing audience even though I don't contribute to TRP am disconnected with the mother character.

I don't understand how she could have left her child, if that is the case of her being in an abusive marriage with the hero's father, and further she was quite happy with the villain husband for 14 or 15 years, they were romancing, dancing blah blah blah and everything, and now I am supposed to believe that she is this saintly mother.

I am sorry, she can't bury her head in the sand like an ostrich, she shouldn't be lightly forgiven and neither should the father by their son. He is the one that suffered the most, she was with her rose colored glasses playing kissy with villain and living it up as a rich lady and now coming and crying that I am not all that bad, yes lady you are that bad in my opinion. 😆


And that's why I want Rudra to listen to her. I am not going to comment on forgiving purely because I don't have the whole story yet in front of me. I do think she deserves the right to be happy if she left because she was abused or if she left because she fell out of love. My personal thinking is a woman is not a property and has a right to be happy. Having said that I am very conscious of the fact that she did leave her child behind and I want to know why?
Its not about being lightly forgiven that's not what I am getting it at this stage. Everyone is different when it comes to forgiveness. Some may and some may not and its okay my concern is back story at this stage. She did what she thought was right at that time, I also look at the fact that she comes from backward rajasthan where having independent thoughts was not the norm but now that she knows the consequences of her actions I want her story to be heard so then I make my decision.
That's why I said she is in denial. Does that make her bad? I don't think so but it does make her look disconnected because the causality in this cluster f**k was the kid.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi,
Nice post.
Yes even I want Dilsher to talk with Rudra as this is the right time.
He can not keep him in the dark but again I can see guilt in Dilsher's eyes. To accept that he did wrong to his son who started calling him Bapusa from few months... he needs lot of courage.
In some flashbacks they showed Mala wants to take Rudra with her but Dilsher said no and he throwed her out of the house.
Danveer said she was keep on calling to enquire about Rudra and she came for him by the time Dilsher and Rudra left. Danveer also don't know where they went then she stopped calling him, once Rudra came back Danveer informed her. This is Danveer's confession to Dilsher.

Only one question in my mind
"Why didn't she even tried to tell Tejawat after marriage that she has one son and she doesn't know where he is?" May be he might try to find him as he is powerful.
Why she waited till Danveer calls her and inform her that Rudra back? At that time also she told to Tejawat casually I have a son and want to invite him with happiness.
How she thought as soon as Rudra saw her he'll be happy and he'll become the same boy she left long ago.
So what she really thinking I want to know.
She said she'll wait till he's ready to listen but if nobody tries to put everyone at ease when the time'll come? Poor Paro running and doing everything.
Today the slap to Rudra I felt very bad for him.
I know in his anger he don't know what he's speaking but if only Dilsher showed this respect to Mala back in time this won't happen and of course we won't be having this awesome story.😆
Ok I think I said one question but I did put lot of questions 😆
So yah I still need to figure out a lot. I think tomorrow most of my questions'll be answered.





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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: evenjleena28

And that's why I want Rudra to listen to her. I am not going to comment on forgiving purely because I don't have the whole story yet in front of me. I do think she deserves the right to be happy if she left because she was abused or if she left because she fell out of love. My personal thinking is a woman is not a property and has a right to be happy. Having said that I am very conscious of the fact that she did leave her child behind and I want to know why?

Its not about being lightly forgiven that's not what I am getting it at this stage. Everyone is different when it comes to forgiveness. Some may and some may not and its okay my concern is back story at this stage. She did what she thought was right at that time, I also look at the fact that she comes from backward rajasthan where having independent thoughts was not the norm but now that she knows the consequences of her actions I want her story to be heard so then I make my decision.
That's why I said she is in denial. Does that make her bad? I don't think so but it does make her look disconnected because the causality in this cluster f**k was the kid.



I am not saying she should not be forgiven but everyone is pressuring the hero to listen to her, forgive her and what not. I personally don't have the temperament to listen to double standards. And yes she is not a property and she is allowed to follow her heart and be happy, but now that she is back she shouldn't be HURT, that her son doesn't understand her and think that she is bad, she never took the time to show him or tell him that hey you know what I love you but I need to leave your father or something like this.

And better yet, she shouldn't be crying to the foster daughter as well that the son doesn't understand her, she should take it like a woman, she is his mother isn't she, she should know him better than his wife of a few months knows him, but then again that proves my point, she doesn't really understand him apparently, because she is not really his mother for his entire life, thus the disconnection, she made her decisions, good or bad, selfish or selfless, and must reap the outcome and likewise the father of hero as well.

They have both screwed with the son's head big time.

And as an audience we don't want to see light forgiveness, because what is good with that, I need to see her regret not getting in touch with her son sooner, and that there is my greatest problem, she had means and enough freedom to find her son. Look at him from afar. Whatever.

NO 😕
Edited by Erika1 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhushiParo

Hi,

Nice post.
Yes even I want Dilsher to talk with Rudra as this is the right time.
He can not keep him in the dark but again I can see guilt in Dilsher's eyes. To accept that he did wrong to his son who started calling him Bapusa from few months... he needs lot of courage.
In some flashbacks they showed Mala wants to take Rudra with her but Dilsher said no and he throwed her out of the house.
Danveer said she was keep on calling to enquire about Rudra and she came for him by the time Dilsher and Rudra left. Danveer also don't know where they went then she stopped calling him, once Rudra came back Danveer informed her. This is Danveer's confession to Dilsher.

Only one question in my mind
"Why didn't she even tried to tell Tejawat after marriage that she has one son and she doesn't know where he is?" May be he might try to find him as he is powerful.
Why she waited till Danveer calls her and inform her that Rudra back? At that time also she told to Tejawat casually I have a son and want to invite him with happiness.
How she thought as soon as Rudra saw her he'll be happy and he'll become the same boy she left long ago.
So what she really thinking I want to know.
She said she'll wait till he's ready to listen but if nobody tries to put everyone at ease when the time'll come? Poor Paro running and doing everything.
Today the slap to Rudra I felt very bad for him.
I know in his anger he don't know what he's speaking but if only Dilsher showed this respect to Mala back in time this won't happen and of course we won't be having this awesome story.😆
Ok I think I said one question but I did put lot of questions 😆
So yah I still need to figure out a lot. I think tomorrow most of my questions'll be answered.





Hello and thank you for the comments😊
I agree that this is the right time and talk is needed badly because all it is doing currently is making Rudra more angry that in turn Paro upset and that is not liked by anyone.
Dilsher has to face his own demons, he has started acknowledging to his wife it was his fault but only to her and remember how he sort of stopped Mala to continue with the story in Paro's presence? That bothered me a lot. He planted the seed, had he loved his kid and when Rudra reached a certain age explained the situation then story would have been different.
I have the similar question for Mala. My thinking is why did she not to go his school to talk to him? they did waited a month before leaving. Why did she not hired an investigator to look for the boy? and yes she is waiting for her turn but the way Rudra is going it is never going to happen.
About the slap? I don't condone abuse of any kind...male or female. Its wrong!!!!! a father should not slap his son because he insulted his mother...simple!!! of course it adds drama to the already messy pot but I didn't like watching it. I am not going to be happy if even Sumer gets slapped...so not being biased but coming from Dilsher it was hypocritical.
Lets see how the saga ends coz now they are bringing one more villain because the one they had all got such great closure didn't they?😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Erika1



I am not saying she should not be forgiven but everyone is pressuring the hero to listen to her, forgive her and what not. I personally don't have the temperament to listen to double standards. And yes she is not a property and she is allowed to follow her heart and be happy, but now that she is back she shouldn't be HURT, that her son doesn't understand her and think that she is bad, she never took the time to show him or tell him that hey you know what I love you but I need to leave your father or something like this.

And better yet, she shouldn't be crying to the foster daughter as well that the son doesn't understand her, she should take it like a woman, she is his mother isn't she, she should know him better than his wife of a few months knows him, but then again that proves my point, she doesn't really understand him apparently, because she is not really his mother for his entire life, thus the disconnection, she made her decisions, good or bad, selfish or selfless, and must reap the outcome and likewise the father of hero as well.

They have both screwed with the son's head big time.

And as an audience we don't want to see light forgiveness, because what is good with that, I need to see her regret not getting in touch with her son sooner, and that there is my greatest problem, she had means and enough freedom to find her son. Look at him from afar. Whatever.

NO 😕

I am the one who think he should talk to her and listen to her, I never said about forgiving so I cannot make comments on those who did. When it gets to that stage I will add my two cents until then I am going to be neutral on forgiveness. I think the reason he should at least listen to her once is to hear her side...whether she is right or wrong that's secondary right now the concern is why is she so disconnected.
Everything you wrote does affirm my belief that she is disconnected...that's why I want to know her side and that can only happen if Rudra listens. Even the most hardened criminal gets their day in the court...of course this is not reality and the situation is totally different but if they can get their say then why can't Mala? once she has spoken then who is stopping anyone from judging? People do change in fact we have seen in this forum when AS clarified his video fiasco and people said oh well he clarified lets move on. That's great then why are we not willing to give a chance to someone who is fake?
Same here if and when the time comes about forgiveness I want to see something deep, not I am sorry and all good...but we haven't even moved past talking yet so its long term. I have many more questions as to why she didn't look for her child more? and that's why I think she is still not connected with the situation and why is the not is the question.
She is justifying herself to Paro because she knows Paro is the only one who is not biased and has seen her good side that's normal. Both Dilsher and Mala have done huge damage to their own kid and now I want to see why and what and how it all happened.

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