Ramayan Daily Episode Discussion - Page 5

The Tadaka episode
This is my fave scene so far. Very well executed. But i do feel they have told us more about her. According the Valmiki Ramayan, Tadaka was a Yakshi - daughter of Yaksh-raj, Suketu. She married a rakshas name Sund. Yakshas and Rakshas are clans that have a common origin and marriages between these two groups often occured. Sund, due to his Asuri nature harrassed and persecuted Rishi Agastya, so the Rishi released him from his body. Tadaka and her son Marich then took revenge on Rishi Agastya. He therefore cursed them that they would becomes demons. Tadaka had the strength of 1000 elephants, she haunted Tadaka-van and made it unsafe for human occupation.

this week episodes were awesome!!

i liked the way in which RAMA,LAXMAN,BHARAT & SHATRUGHAN were eating the food from the hands of their mothers.

the actors who are playing the roles of RAMA,LAXMAN,DASHRATHA r doing fantabulous job !! RAMA & LAXMAN look sooooooooooooo handsome esp. rama!!

i just loved the great aarti OF GANGES !! the aarti was sooooooooo simple & the music was awesome plus the pictarization of tht aarti was superb !! every thing was looking soooooooooo real !!

also loved the scenes where king DASHRATHA was cleaning the feets of rishi vishwamitra with his own royal clothes which he was wearing !!

this is the first time i am hearing abt shanta the daughter of KING DASHRATHA ! i wonder she was never shown in the old ramayan & never got to hear tht king dashratha had a daughter ,then why king dashratha was lamenting tht he had no child & if shanta was there then WHY WE NEVER GET TO SEE THT THE 4 brothers meeting their sister & she wud be the eldest one so all the 4 brothers touching her feet & atleast RAMACHANDRA wud have atleast mentioned his siter's name !!

this is really news to me !! now i wud def. search for this on net !!

Originally posted by: akhl

Yes, Ram had a sister named Shanta.

Sage Kashyap had a son named Vibhandak. Kashyap created Vibhandak using his mental power. Vibhandak performed lots of austerities and gained huge spiritual powers. Vibhandak had a son named Rishyashring. Vibhandak brought up Rishyashring in forest. Rishyashring was completely devoted to his father. He did whatever Vibhandak asked him to. Under Vibhandak's guidance, he became expert in Vedas.

Meanwhile king Dashrath had a daughter named Shanta. Dashrath wanted son. He had a friend named Romapad who was ruling over a kingdom called Ang. Romapad wanted to adopt Shanta. Dashrath agreed. Thus Romapad became Shanta's father. After Shanta came to Ang, there was famine in Ang. Even in rainy season, there was no rain. Because of no rain, there was lack of food. People started blaming Shanta. They said that Shanta must have brought bad luck. But Romapad's family astrologer said that the famine was because of the anger of a brahmin whom Romapad had cheated in the past. It so happened that Romapad conducted a sacrifice after which he gave donations. To one brahmin he promised a bag containing diamonds. Later on he saw that one diamond was very precious. Romapad did not want to give such a precious diamond to anybody. He replaced that diamond with another less valuable diamond. He gave that bag to the brahmin. From his spiritual power, the brahmin got to know everything. He became very angry and left the place. It was because of his anger that there was no rain. It was just a coincidence that Shanta came to Ang before the famine.

Romapad asked the family astrologer what to do. The astrologer said, "Let sage Rishyashring come to Ang. When he comes here, then there will be rain. Also marry your daughter Shanta to Rishyashring and ask Rishyashring to stay here. When he stays here, then because of his spiritual power, there will be good in your kingdom."
Romapad agreed. Now the question was whom to send to bring Rishyashring. Everybody was afraid of Rishyashring's father Vibhandak. Because of his spiritual power, Vibhandak could burn anybody and any place. It was next to impossible to make Vibhandak send Rishyashring out of the forest. And there was no way Rishyashring was going to do anything against the wishes of his father. After lots of discussions, the ministers of Romapad made a plan. They decided to send courtesans to Rishyashring and that too at a time when Vibhandak was not with Rishyashring.

Beautiful courtesans went to the forest where Rishyashring lived. They camped near Rishyashring's ashram. Vibhandak was not there at that time. Romapad's ministers had already come to know of this from their detectives. While walking, Rishyashring came near the camp of the courtesans. He was amazed because he had never seen any woman till then. Here, he was seeing so many woman and that too exceptionally beautiful ones. The women made friendship with Rishyashring. Rishyashring thought that they also must be sages like him. He received them the way a guest should be received. He offered them fruits to eat. After talking to Rishyashring for some time, the courtesans went back to their camp. Next day, Rishyashring went to that camp. The women welcomed him and gave him sweets to eat. Rishyashring ate the sweets thinking them to be fruits because he had never eaten or even seen man-made sweets till then; he had been living on roots and fruits.
The courtesans said, "Our hermitage is at some distance from here. It is a very good hermitage. You must come with us to see it."
Rishyashring thought that his father would have no objection if he visited the hermitage of any sage. He had been thinking the courtesans to be sages. He did not know that they would take him to city. He was not even aware what urban life was all about because he had never stepped outside forest. He went to Ang with the courtesans. As soon as he reached there, there was rain in Ang. Everybody was happy. King Romapad explained him everything and got Shanta married to Rishyashring. Now Rishyashring found out the truth but he forgave the king because he understood the king's problems.

When Vibhandak came back to the forest, he did not find his son Rishyashring there. He found out everything. He went to Ang and was very angry. Somehow Romapad calmed him down. Then Vibhandak went back to his forest and Rishyashring lived in Ang with his wife Shanta.

On the other hand, king Dashrath wanted putrakameshti yajna to be done so that he could get son. His guru Vashishth and other sages approved of this idea. Dashrath's minister Sumant suggested that Rishyashring should be made the chief priest in the sacrifice. Many years before that, Sanat Kumar(a mind-born son of Brahma) had predicted that Dashrath would get sons if sage Rishyashring performed the sacrifice. Sumant was aware of this prediction and he knew that Sanat Kumar could never go wrong. When Dashrath came to know that none less than Sanat Kumar had predicted this, then he decided to bring Rishyashring to his city Ayodhya. Since Vashishth was Dashrath's guru, Dashrath asked for Vashishth's suggestion. Vashishth agreed.

Dashrath went to Ang. He explained everything to his friend Romapad. Romapad agreed. He sent Rishyashring to Ayodhya. Shanta also came to Ayodhya with him. Rishyashring performed putrakameshti yajna to beget son.

wow!! thanks a bunch akhl !!😛 for ur information on the daughter of KING DASHRATHA !! named shanta !!

i wonder why KING DASHRATHA gave hiS daughter to someone else ???😕

by the way akhl !! thanks a bunch for this great information 👏,i was never knowing this part of RAMAYAN !! it's becaz of ur detailed explanation i got to know abt the daughter of king dashratha !! i wish the makers cud have shown this part of ramayan as very few ppl wud be knowing it !!😛

Originally posted by: Devia

indeed. I mean Harischandra was like the greatgrandfather of Ram. 😕

Do you know why they lived so long? Or how they did that? I mean it was not only one rishi, but a lot of them, like Vashist and others.

historians of later days, identify these maha rishis( taking in consideration all historicalfacts only) as a clannof rishis. like viswamitra is the name of teh first man of theviswamitra clan, his enxt of kinalso took the title viswamitra and specialised in his performing his rituals only

however according to puarnas

each of these sages, soem rulers etc can live through ages

I am disappointed with the portrayal of the villains. When will desi mythologicals realize that it is just as important to portray the antagonists as complete three dimensional characters rather than just the protagonists?! They need to sketch their characters out with more detail and history. Let us see things from both sides of the story. Show us the motivations of both sides. That makes for much MUCH more interesting viewing.

Decades have passed and there is still no sign of any improvement. We still have one dimensional cheesy, thigh-slapping, foot-stomping, mustache twirling, loud villains who do nothing but go "HO HO HO, me smell man, me eat man, HO HO HO!!" 😳 They look more like cheap video game characters and are dealt with next to nothing tension in the air. Insert some reality, some emotion in the scene at least.

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Originally posted by: Kal El

I am disappointed with the portrayal of the villains. When will desi mythologicals realize that it is just as important to portray the antagonists as complete three dimensional characters rather than just the protagonists?! They need to sketch their characters out with more detail and history. Let us see things from both sides of the story. Show us the motivations of both sides. That makes for much MUCH more interesting viewing.

Decades have passed and there is still no sign of any improvement. We still have one dimensional cheesy, thigh-slapping, foot-stomping, mustache twirling, loud villains who do nothing but go "HO HO HO, me smell man, me eat man, HO HO HO!!" 😳 They look more like cheap video game characters and are dealt with next to nothing tension in the air. Insert some reality, some emotion in the scene at least.

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well the problem is not in mythologies, but in the shows. if we search the epics mythologies we will find eevrycharacter has been given equal importance. all their pros and cons have been painted with care. thats what made ramayan and mahabharata immortal. the mythologies where this has not been done , have lost their importnce over time

unfortunately its the typical bollywoo mentality wher the villain is just bat bashing goon not a multidimensional human being

so its what we can get

with 21st century maybe the views are changing, but things are being made like this as a greater part of the viewers maybe still want to see things this way

Originally posted by: its me tan

well the problem is not in mythologies, but in the shows. if we search the epics mythologies we will find eevrycharacter has been given equal importance. all their pros and cons have been painted with care. thats what made ramayan and mahabharata immortal. the mythologies where this has not been done , have lost their importnce over time

unfortunately its the typical bollywoo mentality wher the villain is just bat bashing goon not a multidimensional human being

so its what we can get

with 21st century maybe the views are changing, but things are being made like this as a greater part of the viewers maybe still want to see things this way

I didn't say the problem is in the mythologies. I am talking about mythologicals which are tv serials based on mythological stories. 😊

I agree with the rest of your post. The characters are so much more interesting in the texts than their on-screen portrayals. So much potential wasted. It's a shame really. 😔

Originally posted by: Kal El

I didn't say the problem is in the mythologies. I am talking about mythologicals which are tv serials based on mythological stories. 😊

I agree with the rest of your post. The characters are so much more interesting in the texts than their on-screen portrayals. So much potential wasted. It's a shame really. 😔

I agree. It is a shame. In Ravan ( on zee ) is it different but there are a lot of complaints, that Ravan is portrayed like a human being. Maybe that is why they do it in this Ramayan in the old style. A lot of people dont want to see the good things or the human things in the villains. They want to think of them as deamons.

I agree. Ravan was a demon but before that, he was a very learned brahman. He did difficult tapasya and God gave him so much power which made him arrogant . he misused his powers to an extent of becoming a demon. i guess whatever was shown in Ravan serial was not believable coz he was made to be a hero. If in Ramayan they show the life history of Ravan we'll sympathize with him rather than h ate him and it'll be difficult to accept that this person can do this to Sita and his rakshas vansh.