Doubts and Discussions from the Ramayan - Page 107

Originally posted by: coolpurvi

@blue -this shows that Ram was unstable. He needed someone who can console him n impatient. My reply which u quoted was for Loveanime who said that Sagar shud not have shown Ram so unstable n sad. whats wrong if Sagars r showing it?Does it anyway contradicting with the story?

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

I still don't get it how they were able to tear Sita Devi from Ram even within their minds . . .

I agree that this in no way justifies them accusing Maharani Sita.

In Duryodhan's Army???😡

Why not make them Lavanasur's breakfast? 😈😈😈

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

Reading the posts of Mandodari ji, Chandra Bhaiya and Lalitha Janaki, a doubt sprung up to my mind. Something that I was contemplating long back . . .

I am sure that Bharat would have know what happened to Ram, Sita and Lakshman. Atleast he would have known the fact that Sita was taken away and Ram was searching for her. My reason for believing this - A part of the vanaras were sent to the North as well in their quest for Sita. Surely Bharat would have come to know of what happened. Ayodhya had spies and definitely they would have informed Bharat and Shathrugan about it. If that was the case, what steps did Bharat and Shathrugan take to help Ram. I read in a book that Bharat and the King of Kasi tried to send their armies to Lanka but either they couldn't or before they could start Hanuman came with the news Ram was back. I too think they would not have reached on time to participate in the war.

Did the common people know of the quest of the vanaras. If so the news would have pread along with the insertions and additions by those who pass it on. They would have had enough time to discuss it all and then if they still doubted Sita's chastity, they wouldn't have been so joyous in her welcome. I think that the Washerman threw out his thoughts he had kept within himself or that he himself had thought about it at the time of sending away his wife and that started the people thinking along those lines.

What are your opinions on this, friends?

I have already exhausted my time here. It took some time to read through all the posts.

Would be back tonight 😉

Mandodari, Chandra, Lalitha & Vibs - thanks for all those points on the legal standards prevalent in the Treta Yug.

Originally posted by: coolpurvi

Gossips of Avadhis r proof that Agnipareeksha was not sufficient. a book cannot make someone immortal or God in the eye of people unless the contemporaries testify it (pls exclude Valmiki ,Vashishtha n other great figure.. they were few in number compared to Avadhis plus take note of their reach amongst common public. Gossips spread thousand times faster than good sayings.) If the people of country of which Sita is queen r not worshiping her what a book can do there. Not all people buy books.. not all people r literate even. People come to know abt ramayan from their parents, grandparents , ramleelas etc a few buy books. Doubts of those avadhis wud have passed to the next generation then to next n so on

Originally posted by: _LalithaJanaki_

I don't think it's really the sadness which is contradicting to Ram's character, but his inability to make up his mind and think straightly. Even the Old Ramayan made this same mistake in terms of authenticity. Both Sagars' Ramayans have showed Sita volunteering to exile herself and Ram unable to make a decision, but...at least the Old Ramayan showed this all in the course of one night. And they made Ram look like he was actually thinking about the issue and contemplating what to do, instead of looking depressed all the time. I'm not saying that's wrong, but they're overdoing it here. This one is dragging it into more than a few days with Suniana coming and giving advice to Sita and all.

I think I now get what Chandra was coming at when he said this new version lessens Ram's greatness than Valmiki. Both the Sagars' Ramayans have shown/showing Ram as a King unable to make quick decisions when it came to personal life. Raja Ram was the greatest King of the Raghukul (not only because he was avatar of Lord Vishnu), and it would be better to show him as a stronger King. It's too late to change the Old Ramayan (it was too late 20 years ago), but this new Ramayan had a chance to show the true story.

Also, the Sagars are not only making Ramji weep in his chambers, which would be fine, but his brothers found it hard to speak to him, and he's making it known in the palace that he is not mentally well. It is coming in the way of him acting as the ideal king. I have nothing against the actors, since they're acting really well, but they're changing the characters.

Originally posted by: janie

Hello to all....

I am a new member to this forum and great fan of Ramayan n its great cast.I am really touched by the love n respect b/w Ram n Sita shown towards each other which is being beautifully portrayed on screen.I have a question....I havent read Ramayan by myself....whatever i know is stories heard from elders...According to it Sita was abandoned abruptly...But cuurently they r showing onscreen Sita herself asking to go for Vanvaas...Does this decision of Sita comes in Valmiki Ramayan?From where does they have extracted this story?I will be pleased to get the answer.... Thanks a lot....

guys have one doubt did the whole praja all ayodhyawasi blamed the sita mata or it just that washerman or more we take 2-3 ppl...
may be this was not the pov of whole praja but their discussions may seem Raja tht they are against Sita...
i don't think tht all of them have same pov..
i am saying this becoz everyone of them knows that whole Vanr sena have seen the Agni pariksha
they even aware of the thing tht Ramji never told the lie
its a raghkul niti
secondly Hanumanji such a pure soul(an ordinary man will obviously think him as ag god who actually tear his heart to show his devotion.....) he was witness of the same
so, it seems to me Ayodhians delima rather than their suspicion...
if they are suspecting some one they must have analyzed these points.....tooo
and while discussing all such things which is like their confusion Ramji heard that and took this decision...

Originally posted by: chen2chic

Welcome, janie! Hope you enjoy your stay here.!!

As for your doubt, if you go back some 10-15 pages in this thread, or perhaps more, you will find the answer to your question. I will try to locate it and pass on the link.

Welcome Janie...