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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: chen2chic

The celebrated stanza of Sanskrit literature, and controversial too, in deciphering its meaning....

maa nishhaada pratiSThaamtva magamaH shaashvatiiH samaaH |
yat krauNcha mithunaat eka mavadhiiH kaama mohitam || 1-2-15

1] maa - Goddess Lakshmi; nishaada - Oh! Vishnu; yat - by which act; krauncha mithunaat - the couple of demons, Ravana and Mandodari; kaama mohitam - that impassioned one who stole Seetha; ekam - that one, Ravana; avadhiih - you killed; shaashvatiih samaah - everlasting for ages; pratisthaam - divine sanctity /glory; tvam agama - you get.

"Goddess Lakshmi's abode... Oh! Vishnu, by which act of your killing one male demon named Ravana, who in his passion abducted Seetha, and thus you eradicated the vice from the earth, for that you get an everlasting divine sanctity, as Rama, for ages to come."

2] Attributing this to Ravana-

Ravana is the one who tortures others for his benefit and is hence niSaada - Oh! Ravana; krouncha+ midhunaat- from the couple of Rama and Seetha, ekam- one, Seetha; avadhii-as good as killing her (by your act of abducting); pratiSTaam tva- your glory in Lanka; ma+agama- never get, hereafter. But this declination is not held right, for it is like a curse, and no epic shall start with a bad omen.

3] From the perspective of Rama - Sage Narada gave the details of the legend to Sage Valmiki and Brahma orders that the legend of Rama is to be recorded. But Ramayana is full of pathos, karuNa - shoka rasam. If it is to be penned the writer too shall have heart that can outpour that mood. So when Valmiki is at the river banks Rama, it is said that Vishnu, came in the guise of a tribal, and killed one bird. Valmiki reacted immediately but then Rama gets a curse in this verse - maa nishaada.

nishaada= oh hunter / Rama; for your killing one bird of the couple(R&M), to the misery of the female one; shaashvatii = as long as you live on this earth; samaaH+pratiSTaam= togetherness, with your wife; ma+agama= do not get.

Oh! Rama, as long as you are on earth, you do not get the love of being together with your wife... for you have to live with your wife departed (firstly to Lanka, and again to forests)


4) The best one acc. to me....
i] maa+niSaada= Goddess Lakshmi and Vishnu's marriage in their incarnations as Rama and Setha - depicts -- Bala Kanda.

ii] pratiSTaam+tvam+agama= renown, you get - by following your father's orders you have repaired to forests, without any political upheaval, thus get an everlasting renown as an obliging son --- depicts-- Ayodhya Kanda.

iii] shashavatii+ samaa= by dwelling in forest and eradicating demons and helping the saints and sages thus, you achieve an everlasting praise - depicts - Aranya Kanda.

iv] krounchayoH= from the atrocious couple Vali and Tara; ekam+kaama+mohitam = one, passion filled, i.e., Vali, avadhii= you killed Vali - depicts - Kishkindha Kanda.

v] krouncha +mithunaat= from the couple of lovely passionate birds - Ram and Sita; niSaada he Ravana, kaama mohitam lustfully, ekam one [i.e., Seetha]; avadhii = almost killed, i.e., her residing in Lanka is as good as death; this depicts - Sundara Kanda.

vi] krouincha+mithunaat = from the atrocious, couple - Ravana and Mandodari; ekam avadhii one - Ravana, is killed - depicts - Yuddha Kanda.

vii] kaama+mohitam= by desire, fascinated; Sita is fascinated by her desire to see sage's wives and thus she is left in hermitage by Lakshman. Hence Uttara Kanda is also suggested.

thanks for the explanation chen 2 chic 😛
so the birds were karucha birds ,i thought they were swans !!!!
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Posted: 16 years ago

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: sita11

thanks for the explanation chen 2 chic 😛
so the birds were karucha birds ,i thought they were swans !!!!

@Sita11:
Krauncha is Indian, pond Heron and when this bird takes a flight it looks like an aeroplane , the formation of a Krauncha/Pond heron has inspired armies (while fighting)to take a shape in the form of a Krauncha taking a flight.
the Heron formation(Krauncha vyuha) was extensively used by Pandava army while fighting at Kurukshetra.
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Posted: 16 years ago
Just saw the Ramayan promo for the next week.
It starts with the last scene of Ram killing Ravan. In the next scene, Sita Devi (in vanvaas attire with a bundle in her hand) climbs down the steps of the palace and a chariot with Lakshman in the place of a charioteer is shown too and Ram standing on the steps devasted looking at Sita leave. Flashes of Sage Valmiki speaking and Sita Devi in the forrest and turning back as she went into the forest were shown. The last scene was Ram shouting out Sita's name.
I think the voice in the background said Valmiki's Ramayan is in progress but the events in Ayodhya will be taking a turn for the worse. Sorry, I still didn't catch the words properly.
If I watch it again, I'll provide any details I have missed.
I think Sita Devi's banishment will start soon . . . 😭 Or at least its premonitions will be shown this week.
Edited by Vibhishna - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
Thanks Vibs for the precap info. Oh, my, they are going to start the banishment of Sita this soon! They haven't even shown too much family bonding yet after they got back to Ayodhya! Sagars are in a big rush to finish off this whole series soon then.
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

Just saw the Ramayan promo for the next week.

It starts with the last scene of Ram killing Ravan. In the next scene, Sita Devi (in vanvaas attire with a bundle in her hand) climbs down the steps of the palace and a chariot with Lakshman in the place of a charioteer is shown too and Ram standing on the steps devasted looking at Sita leave. Flashes of Sage Valmiki speaking and Sita Devi in the forrest and turning back as she went into the forest were shown. The last scene was Ram shouting out Sita's name.
I think the voice in the background said Valmiki's Ramayan is in progress but the events in Ayodhya will be taking a turn for the worse. Sorry, I still didn't catch the words properly.
If I watch it again, I'll provide any details I have missed.
I think Sita Devi's banishment will start soon . . . 😭 Or at least its premonitions will be shown this week.

😲
so soon
oh god they shud show some more moments mayb
before sita goes to valmiki ashram
why such huge rush
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

Just saw the Ramayan promo for the next week.

It starts with the last scene of Ram killing Ravan. In the next scene, Sita Devi (in vanvaas attire with a bundle in her hand) climbs down the steps of the palace and a chariot with Lakshman in the place of a charioteer is shown too and Ram standing on the steps devasted looking at Sita leave. Flashes of Sage Valmiki speaking and Sita Devi in the forrest and turning back as she went into the forest were shown. The last scene was Ram shouting out Sita's name.
I think the voice in the background said Valmiki's Ramayan is in progress but the events in Ayodhya will be taking a turn for the worse. Sorry, I still didn't catch the words properly.
If I watch it again, I'll provide any details I have missed.
I think Sita Devi's banishment will start soon . . . 😭 Or at least its premonitions will be shown this week.

What?????????????
Its hardly a week since Sita is back in her royal attire, why sending her back in Vanvas dress so soon? Sagars.........................Please do not rush......
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Posted: 16 years ago
in todays episode 2nd MARCH
karkati tells her parents tht kumbhkaran is her husband
the flashback story of kumbhkaran goes like -----------kumbhkaran came to sahiyadri place (the place where rakshas karkat is the king & karkati is his daughter) to seek help from karkat rakshas in the war against RAMJI & vanar sena ,there kumbhkaran & karkati were smitten by each other & kumbhkaran & karkati did gandahrva vivah (gandharva marriage infront of God) .
father of karkati rakshas karkat was happy tht now he(karkat) had become a relative of ravan & kumbhkaran !!!!! rakshas family , at tht time few soldiers of karkat rakshas who had gone to help ravan in the war against Ramji came ,they all were wounded & inform karkat & karkati tht ravan & kumbhkaran now dead & they lost war against Ramji !!!!
karkati was super furious & takes an oath to avenge RAMJI for kumbhkarans death !!!!
IN AYODHYA ,RAMJI asks for forgiveness from vibhishan,jamvant ,sugreev,anagad ,hanuman,nishadraj in the AYODHYA RAJYA SABHA & hints them to return back to their own kingdoms ,
nobody was ready to leave AYODHYA & RAMJI ,but RAMJI makes everyone understand the situation & finally with heavy heart they all got ready to return back to their own kingdoms
but hanumanji cried big time while holding the feet of RAMJI tht he(hanumanji) wud not leave RAMJi at any cost ,to tht sitaji says tht hanuman shd return back to kishkindha & help out sugreevji in establishing the kingdom & when the kishkindha kingdom is established ,hanumaji shd come back to AYODHYA with angad !!!
Hanumanji was crying big time & was not ready to leave ,ultimately Ramji says to hanumanji tht if he(hanumanji) won't follow the order of sitaji then he wud b angry (i.e ramji wud b offended to tht hanumanji agreed with a heavy heart !!!!😭
RAMJI& HANUMANJI cried big time while hugging each other !!
RAMJIS emotional dialouges were soultouching !!!!!😭
precap----------karkati telling her father tht she wud avenge RAMJI with the help of Lavanasur rakshas ,lavnasur was son of the king Madhu of madhupuri state !!!!
sooooooooooooooooooo emotional episode
the emotional hug of RAMJI & HANUMANJI brought tears to my eyes !!!! very very great acting by GUrmeet as RAJA RAM & vikram sharma AS hanumanji !!!!👏
Edited by sita11 - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago

GURMEET & VIKRAM SHARMA !!!! terrific in their performances !!!👏

GURMEET WAS soooooooooooooo handsome as RAJA RAM !!!!😃
soultouching & emotional dialouges ,when RAMJI was trying to make everyone understand the situation & hinting everyone to return back to their states by reminding everyone their duities to their peoples !!!!👏
LOVED todays episode !!!!!👏
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Posted: 16 years ago
yippie kakashri was back
i m so happy
today only mallika talkd to sri and he told kakashri wud be shown in lavanasur story
and someone here was telling about it
good to see him back
but karkate ke saath hum ati prafullit hue
ahhahahaahhahahha

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