RAMAYAN DAILY DISCUSSION THREAD - Page 33

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Mandodari & Sita

Another thing I've sometimes wondered - how did Ashkavati & Yudhajit react once they found out what Kaikeyi had done? Were they proud of her, or ashamed? Remember, one of the conditions on which Dasharath was allowed to marry Kaikeyi in the first place was that her son would be the successor to him on the throne. This wasn't a demand made by Kaikeyi, but by Ashkavati. Depending on how they reacted, it may or may not have made sense for Kaikeyi to return to Kekaya for good.

I also can see why you like the kinder, gentler version of their relationship, but remember - Rama's exile wasn't the only sin Kaikeyi was ever guilty of. During their marriage, after the incident with Shambara where Kaikeyi saved Dasharath from getting killed by manovering him out of there, she became Dasharath's favorite. Unlike Rama, who spread the love, Kaikeyi's way was to rub in that fact that she was the favorite, and deliberately disrespect and slight Kaushalya & Sumitra - something not shown in the serial. As a result, Kaushalya & Sumitra never had a happy marriage, and when they finally did enjoy Dasharath's last moments, it was too little too late. It's also in this latter context that Lakshman's fury at Kaikeyi when he learnt of the exile makes more sense - unlike Rama, he was not Kaikeyi's favorite, so he'd have noticed more closely the shabby treatment Kaushalya & Sumitra received at Kaikeyi's hand. For this reason, while Rama's magnanimity was admirable, the side effect of that was that Kaikeyi also got away scot free for her misbehavior towards Kaushalya & Sumitra.

Anyway, thanks for your observations.

Sita

Reason Manthara hated Rama was the plain, vanilla jealousy: she loved only Kaikeyi's son, and no other. Somehow, Kaikeyi, despite her attitude towards Kaushalya & Sumitra, was complete opposite when it came to Rama.

Oh, and I forgot to mention - today, I loved Rama spending some time with Guha, although Hanuman told him he was in a hurry. (One side question - couldn't Sita haran, Rama's war and victory have happened in year 7, and from then on, Rama, Sita, Lakshman and their friends slowly make their way back to Ayodhya, instead of having to airdash to prevent Bharat from taking agni-samadhi? Were there any requirements by which Ravan had to be killed in year 14?)

Vibs

Good point - the Govardhan Giri incident clearly demonstrated that people worshipped Indra. In fact, I see no reason why he shouldn't be worshipped, unless losing to Ravan, Indrajit and a host of other asuras does it.

Mandodari

My kid hated Barney. 😆😆 For a while, he was hooked on Dora, but eventually, that passed. But yeah, I hated this lovey dovey relationship that was shown. Also, Urmila serving Kaikeyi in the backdrop of the fact that Lakshman resented her, I thought, seemed a tad disloyal.

The Manthara incident was just from my memory of that Tamil Ramayanam serial aired on DD Tamil in the late 1980s. But as you all say, it may not have that much credibilty. And certainly have not heard of any other version showing Manthara's softer side towards Ram. But still, will try to see if there is an authentic source for this. And I did go thro' wikipedia after Chandraketu pointed it and yes, there is no source cited.

Originally posted by: jai sri ram

hey guys ! what happenning here ? can somebody sum up this debat !! please !! I know , u talked about Kaikeyi , then Manthra but please ? I too want to share this debat !! I love debats in ur religion !! Please guys !! Mak karti !!

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

This thread is for the discussion of daily episodes. We have been discussing how Kaikeyi is shown to be a better woman than she was depicted in the actual epics. In the last episode Manthra was shown living in a dark room and rambling in madness. We were discussing that too.

KAUSHLAYA MATA with a pooja thali in her hands with emotions in her heart standing at the stairs to welcome ALL THE 4 ETERNAL brothers ,RAMJI touching the feet of KAUSHLAYA mata !!!!😃

Gurmeet was looking super-duper handsome in his royal attires ,ankit was sooooooooooo cute as lakshmanji😃

sooooooooooooo happy to see the 4 eternal brothers back in their royal attires & the smile was back on the faces of the 4 eternal brothers !!!!!😃

even the 3 mothers now were wearing few jewels & sitaji ,mandavi ,shrutikirti,urmila all were happy & were decked in the royal beautiful costumes !!!!!😃

thanks sagars for showing the great episode & showing the eternal scenes of RAMJI with his ayodhya family esp with KAUSHLAYA MATA !!!!!😛