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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhatamKahani



No it is not. Look,, I know if it happens they would have Sanam going back. But the point is, that shouldn't be the case.

What do you mean without knowing the reason. We are reacting to a spoiler which we hope is wrong. But if it's correct it means he slapped her. You know when Asad slapped Zoya, there were all kinds of justifications for that too. Oh...so much justification.

Why does it matter what the reason is. He shouldn't slap her. BAS! That is it. It should not happen. He should not raise his hand on her. Either he is better than that, or he is not. If he is not better than that, then actually he is right in staying away from Sanam because is correct that he has issues.

The point is, Indian shows often show a heroine who has been slapped by her romantic interest, and they remain romantic interests and stay and end up together. The point is more that it shouldn't be shown in the first place. But it's shown again and again, and no one finds a problem with it. it's oh, it happened, now let's accept it, get some proper "redemption" and all is well and fine in the end.

Enjoy the show if/after he slaps her all you want. But I won't be. I'll be done and finished. Because it is not something which should be shown in a portrayal of a romantic journey.

I'm with u on this one. I'm still hoping that spoiler is false, but if it true, I just can't accept it. Regardless of what Sanam May or may not have done, he has no right to slap her. Aahil is my fav character but that does not mean I will support/ justify all his wrong doings. Slapping Sanam is way out of Aahil's character, so I'm hoping writers won't ruin him.
Edited by Booteefool - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Raingoddess


No I am saying the same, if someone says something about ur parents u overreact, maybe at most curse at them but not slap lol I completely agree the spoiler killed my mood but def I love QH n I hope it turns out much different! I love Aahil too and hope they don't lose the essence of his character because he is one of the few wonderful heroes! As for him being an abused child, yes def it doesn't make sense for him to do this. So far he has been shown to be repelling violence, even Rehan he never hit. When Sanam read his diary it was heartbreaking to hear what he went thru so unless the CVs have lost it, Aahil is suppose to be scarred but not unstable. His wounds are deep but have never allowed him to lose the humanity in him. CVs def need to rethink what they r showing...

Bang on i totally agree ...
About the Asad slapping part he was not much in love with zoya their relationship was not properly started yet... but that did not justify him slapping her.. n here Aahil has been in love with her.. i dont know maybe im expecting much more from him but i cant see Aahil losing away all his sanity... Aahil is a very dear character .. n i may not be able to explain it in words but it hurts me when they do something off character with him... n hitting Sanam is well for me it doesnot go with Aahil's character...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lets see whats the matter... but if it does happen..then i may loose love for him...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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okayyy thsi all discusiion has made me think now.. i still dont know whether what i ll be writing would make any sense or not...
See i m TOTALLY AGAINST the slapping part .period. I dont like and i also wont like to see it for the purpose of drama... esp incase of Aahil... And let me be honest incase of AsYa after the slap i dint like it but for the sake of future redemption of Asad did not react that strongly to that slap ... but with SaHil i sont know maybe im so much affected by them i just dont want to see that...

But what i m writing now... u wont agree with me ... but please dont take me wrong .. about the slapping and then forgiving part u said .. u know the reaosn i have gathered while trying to be neutral is that they forgive because of the sake of love... Umm like in a matter of rage people do some things which r totally irrational and in a fit of anger such things like slapping abusing or calling bad names... and after wards the other partner forgives because they accept the weakness of their spouse/partner... it happens in real life too... Ppl do tend to forget afterwards and everybody has their own reasons... but marriages should not break because of a slap... Girls mostly are not rigid and they compromise... but if it becomes a habbit then definitely a girl should stand up against it... but a mistake done once can be forgiven if the partner is really really guilty and ashamed of the act... And seriously a guy who is really genuinely nice would be so shameful of his act that he would be forever feeling guilt for that...
as in if a girl is married and have children n all.. n afterwards a guy who is really genuinely good but something of this sort happens n he in a fit of rage slaps her or hits her but later on after learning the truth is so ashamed and guilty ... and hes genuinely asking for forgiveness should he not be forgiven??
and i m not saying that i support this but the only fact is i m just analyzing this thing now generally and in a whole new perspective...

please dont get me wrong.. i still remember my one reply to one of ur post broke into a big argument n all and really dont want it to happen again... Cz this time i really m not writing it lightly or in a humerous way... just this thought has come to my mind...

Lets make it a neutral discussion... i know my perspective could be wrong ... n i m totally open to listen to ur viewpoint...
Edited by micshy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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WHY is Aahil going to slap Sanam? Because she was almost killed by his Mother and her cronies? I suppose he slaps her when she tells him that his Sainted Mother is not a Saint, but Satan! He cant hear it, and he slaps her!


That is the ONLY reason I can think of. But to date, my love for Aahil was also based on the fact that, he was a physically very restrained hero. He was never shown as overly aggressive, especially towards females. The manhandling was at a very minimum. I also think part of that has to do with KV, who is not comfortable with meaningless scenes of manhandling for a character like Aahil. (He is NOT playing an abusive husband).


So if there is in fact a slap, I would have thought they would have had to really justify it to KV as well as the rest of the audience. Lets wait and see. But personally I am AGAINST it 100%. No matter the provocation, physical violence against a female should NOT be shown as justified. Hopefully they show him raise his hand, and then think better of it. That way, they can show he was so angry he considered slapping her, but still he stopped himself on time.


That way they dont have to ruin Aahil, for their story telling! Lets hope they use their BRAIN!
Edited by MrDarcyfan - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@mischy If you read what I've written I've focused on the fact that it's shown over and over again, as a means of drama and obstacle. Hell many times not even an obstacle, it's just a reaction that us brushed past and forgotten. I never said men cannot change or that there cannot be relationships that get past it in reality.

But when shows constantly show slapping and then the same thing over and over, it's 100 % problematic. They are excusing that thought which prevails in society as well as the expectation that the the male would be apologetic and when female would forgive and move past it.

Why all this focus and expectation on a girl who shouldn't break her marriage? If she wants to it's her right. But here it's always a given the couple will be back together. So once again, the act is not seen as something that is absolutely unacceptable.

And people don't just make mistakes such as slapping one's wife in anger. Society condemns the act but then expects the girl to forgive and give another chance. It is a humiliating thing and a woman is in no way wrong in breaking a marriage over domestic violence. It is no small mistake that's done. It's done because either you believe you have the right to slap or you have absolutely no control over your anger and violent actions.

In terms of Aahil, in a non Hindi soap this would be character exploring development actually. But I've not said it till now because I didn't want to give the impression that this is a good idea to show him slapping her.

On a darker show his slapping her would being forth all the issues he has, and actually tie it to his abusive childhood and how that's affected him. But it would not be pretty, and it would not a romantic dream couple and pairing.

Fact is Aahil as he is right now should not ever, ever slap Sanam. He should not be shown doing such a thing.

Again and again, it comes back to excuse and acceptance--Oh, he did it. But he will be sorry, redeem himself and their love will prevail. THAT is the problem. It's shown over and over, excusing away domestic violence and men hitting women.
Edited by KhatamKahani - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree with u.. In case of the daily soaps they mostly show it to just SENSATIONALIZE the matter... N no matter how we bash such tracks they grab eye balls and attention and ratings.. N the makers keep on doing this n later trivializing it just as a mistake and the girl should forgive him... Honestly in the past where i hv seen such things i actually disliked the abusive behaviour slapping n hitting n all ut disgusted me but did not affect me this much.. Now cz i can relate to the characters its somehow sinking in on me... Thats its not a trivial thing..n even in the fictional world its not acceptable...
What i wrote previously in the reply.. N yes u hv replied right. The thought is now somehow changing.. Girls have become more aware now n personally know many girls who have nit accepted domestic voilence in the name if compromise and have actually ended the relationship ...

And sadly if a man can raise his habd once that one memory is not an easy one to get faded...

As for this serial is concerned... As for Aahil i seriously cant bear to see him do that... I just cant...
And as @mrdarcyfan has awesomely repliee that even previously they never showed Aahil manhandling Sanam ( love him for that) n KVB has a part there i can see... He has made Aahil exceptionally special ... N just like she said they have to really convince KVB for doing that... Or thers a better way ... Like she said he could raise his hand in a gesture but he would actually stop him ( it would be a much much better thing to do..to show his strength that he can still in a fit of rage control himself)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well of course gul as so far copied EVERYTHING from season 1...how could she possibly not copy the infamous slap...EVEN if it dsnt fit in or make ANY sense whatsoever...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39
Guys lets calm down and wait for the episodes before we just assume 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

WHY is Aahil going to slap Sanam? Because she was almost killed by his Mother and her cronies? I suppose he slaps her when she tells him that his Sainted Mother is not a Saint, but Satan! He cant hear it, and he slaps her!



That is the ONLY reason I can think of. But to date, my love for Aahil was also based on the fact that, he was a physically very restrained hero. He was never shown as overly aggressive, especially towards females. The manhandling was at a very minimum. I also think part of that has to do with KV, who is not comfortable with meaningless scenes of manhandling for a character like Aahil. (He is NOT playing an abusive husband).


So if there is in fact a slap, I would have thought they would have had to really justify it to KV as well as the rest of the audience. Lets wait and see. But personally I am AGAINST it 100%. No matter the provocation, physical violence against a female should NOT be shown as justified. Hopefully they show him raise his hand, and then think better of it. That way, they can show he was so angry he considered slapping her, but still he stopped himself on time.


That way they dont have to ruin Aahil, for their story telling! Lets hope they use their BRAIN!

I agree!
But still, it is not in his character to use violence. He will not slap Sanam (oh God, I so hope not), 'cause he respects women in general. He loves and adores Sanam and he wouldn't hurt her. Like today's epi, his love for her is above all and going in the right direction.
@blue, I remember the BTS of the jealousy confession where he felt that his character was abusing Sanam. The scene where he grabs her hand and hold it firm behind her back. He wasn't comfortable at all with it and had addressed it to the director. It was so awesome of him. That's why I think he won't slap her. If he does that, then it will be out of his character.

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