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Posted: 11 years ago
#31
I'm sure the person I ever choose to be my partner will have accept the fact that my parents come before him if not then he has no right to be with me
I guess its just an opinion, because there are people out there, who would choose their companion over their parents, it's just a way of viewing it, In my case, I was given great parents and I have nothing to complain about, but in Asad's case he didn't have that of a great childhood, now he does have the right to be mad and complain, but still he never showed that Zoya was more worthy than his parents or his sister.
Like I said just opinion

Great pot BTW :))
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: -Shayari-


He doesnt have to frogive him.. he just needs to HEALTHILY and properly come to terms and confront him with how much anger he has for him.. let it all out..not hide in his hatred..

but thank you for responding!


Lol Rosh I don't think he hides his hatred at all. Cough gun scene cough. But I definitely think he needs to voice all his pain to him. I'd love to seen a painful scene with angst where Asad tells Rashid how big of a screw up he is, and how much of a hell he made his life. I don't know if you ever watched Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, but there's this part, where she finally confronts her dad about how he bailed on her. It's really good, I recommend watching it. But I'd love to see something like that between the two. I definiltey don't think Rashid is redeemable, at least right now, and feel Asad shouldn't forgive him. Not only because of what he put his family through, but also the fact that a man who can stand there silently while a part of him, literal part of him is being cursed at and insulted, publicly too, he really has no sympathy from my part.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33
Sangeeta Di!
So nice to see you on the forum! šŸ¤—

First of all, thank you. You made me see Dilshad's decision in a whole new light. I was mad at her, but I can see your POV. She is hopelessly in love with that man, and truly can do anythign for those she loves. What resounded with me the most, of what you said, was fact that she was strong enough to not only raise two children alone in a Muslim male dominated society, but also be able to make a decision that would break the heart of her son, to help the man she loves. I still disagree with her decision, but I can see better why she has made it. And agree whole heartedly, that anyone else in her position wouldn't able to take Shireen's taunts and Razia's brownosing.

Second of all. Your comparison of Dilshad and Zoya, is spot on. I especially like that you mentioned what would have happened if Asad would have had to marry Tanveer. I feel Zoya would have left, but then regretted her decision. Or Asad would have begged her not to leave, at some point. But I agree that Zoya will now, after learning that love is above all, do ANYTHING for Asad. And she knows thank you again for pointing this out, that Asad is his family. It's what defines him as a man. As a boy, he still craves for his father. But as a man, he is defined by his mother and sister. And even his other siblings, although he's not AS open about it as with Dilshad and Najma.

And your analysis of Asad and Zoya and their needs as people and as a couple, mind blowing. So accurate. I cannot say more. You've said it all.

So happy to see you pop in 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34
Every relationship is important in life but the man who has vowed to stand by me in every step of my life will be my first priority... and that is my husband. It's not because i need him in my life...it's because it was my choice to invite him in my life. It was the choice I made with my dad's blessing. It doesn't mean that my dad is not my priority, it just means that in any given situation I would prioritize my husband first and I am sure he would do the same. It doesn't make me selfish...it's just the way I see it.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: Rupunzale

Every relationship is important in life but the man who has vowed to stand by me in every step of my life will be my first priority... and that is my husband. It's not because i need him in my life...it's because it was my choice to invite him in my life. It was the choice I made with my dad's blessing. It doesn't mean that my dad is not my priority, it just means that in any given situation I would prioritize my husband and I am sure he would do the same.


you are right in your opinion as its yours,, you know well about what kind of scenario you are talking about,, what kind of relationship you have with your parents...

if we just stuck to QH then what Asad did was all right...his Mom held him fah 17 years,, if she is crying n stopping him n he acknowledges that, then whats wrong?

@ bold: your own words say all: when did dilshaad stepped back?? when zoya did many times

if zoya wasn't asad's priority,, then when he was anyone's priority...
everyone takes him free hand n foregranted,,
its rashid, its dillu, its najma,, its ayaan or its zoya...

ps if you try to understand the concept of this track,, then it was never about comparison btwn Zoya n Dilshaad,, it was never about priorities,,
its about forgiviness, its about love n care towards the parents...

asad never said he would leave zoya, n would walk away with dillu...


he stayed back fah both,, zoya's prov weakened him,, n dillu's made him to totally drop the idea...

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Posted: 11 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: bheegi

Hi Rosh


How are you girl?

I had promised you that I will comment on your post even though I am not making posts on IF

Here is a cut and paste from my FB post today...kinda addresses what you have talked about:

Changing Tides...Epi Dec 5

As Nikhat said today- waqt ke saath log badal jaate hain

This is so true. In real life, people, their tastes, their likes/dislikes and their relationships all change with time.

I am just going to highlight a few changes here..

Dilshaad: A woman with a lot of self-respect, a single mother, a role model for a lot of us has recently been criticized a lot for her decision to move in with Rashid. While I agree that Rashid doesn't deserve a wonderful woman like Dilshaad but for any self respecting woman like Dilshaad it must have taken a lot to make such a big, life changing decision. Yes, she is being humiliated by everyone at the SM. Razia even called her besharam and behayaa. Ordinarily, any woman would have walked out after character was slandered like that. Dilshaad is no ordinary woman. If she could raise two kids single handedly in a male dominated Muslim society, she is also capable of swallowing her pride and self respect for the health and well being of the only man she has ever loved. If tomorrow, Asad was in a similar situation and God forbid, he had been forced into a marriage with the likes of Tanveer, would Zoya have abandoned him when he needed her? I am sure a lot of feminists would oppose that but women like Dilshaad and Zoya can go to any extent for the well being of the man they love. Yes, Dilshaad did break Asad's heart but she knew that at that moment in her life, Rashid needed her more than her son. Dilshaad has not been selfish but took a very difficult decision just for the sake of her love. Why would she want to stay in SM when Shireen and Razia are constantly breathing down her neck? Ishq par zor nahin and even though Rashid is a spineless and self centered man, Dilshaad can't help it if she fell in love with him and still does. It's strength of her character that she has endured Shireen's hatred, Razia's taunts and her son's heartbreak. My only hope is- once Rashid is hale and hearty- she can walk out of SM with her head held high-on her own terms.

Zoya: Yes, Zoya promised to take care of Asad after Dilshaad left. Yes, she let Asad walk away from home. Yes, she realized her folly and followed him to the airport. Yes, she wanted to stop him from leaving and not accompany him to NY.

Why? Because Zoya knows that Asad's happiness lies with his family. Even if he tries to run away from them, he still needs them and wants them in his life. A spouse's job is to help their spouse take a correct decision, not agree with them blindly. Just because Asad wanted to escape from the pain of his separation from his ammi, doesn't mean Zoya should add to his pain by taking him away from Dilshaad. She knows how close he is to his ammi. She also realizes that deep down, Asad has always craved for Rashid's acceptance. Yes, she called him stone hearted but trust me every wife in anger has said nastier things to her hubby. Of course she doesn't mean it. I know I have called my hubby cold hearted many times- but this is the woman in us trying to stir that emotion in our man. Asad's response was also very typical. When slighted by a spouse's words, most men just walk away. In fact, they become colder and more detached after such words. The reality is neither meant what they did or said in anger. Today, Asad was at the doorstep of SM because deep down even he knows he can only be happy with his ammi and family. People who feel Asad and Zoya are not each other's priorities are probably just being too idealistic. What we have seen since the MS episode is very real- that's how real marriages are. We all want romance and happy-shappy-sappy scenes but those don't happen in real life- except on certain occasions. In India, a marriage is an alliance between families not only two individuals. That's why prioritizing family over self interest is a harsh reality in our society. Asad and Zoya are incomplete without each other but as a unit are incomplete without their family. For Zoya, Asad's family is her family and that's why she can't separate herself from them.

Farhan_Nikhat: If I can forget the initial psycho version of Farhan, I kind of like this evolving Farhan-Nikhat love story. The way Nikhat's face lit up when he walked out in the pink shirt was the highlight for me today. Also, it was good to see a confident Nikhat today. I am glad she gave it back to Haseena in a very polite and courteous manner.

HaHu: Still not sure about this pair. I guess till Ayaan's future is uncertain, we will continue to see HaHu scenes. For now, I have no interest in their love story (if there is one)


Brilliant analysis Sangeeta šŸ‘ Always loved your epis analysis ,really missed your post.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: Rupunzale

Every relationship is important in life but the man who has vowed to stand by me in every step of my life will be my first priority... and that is my husband. It's not because i need him in my life...it's because it was my choice to invite him in my life. It was the choice I made with my dad's blessing. It doesn't mean that my dad is not my priority, it just means that in any given situation I would prioritize my husband first and I am sure he would do the same. It doesn't make me selfish...it's just the way I see it.


Im happy to see someone own up to it. And I respect you for that opinion.

But what I would like to say is that THAT particular viewpoint is applicable to YOUR life.. not everyones life. And in the show in particular, this is a show with its own characters, its own circumstance where we can see the situations from our own lenses.. which is perfectly fine and respectable, but we HAVE TO BE WILLING to see the OTHER side as well.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: bheegi

Hi Rosh


How are you girl?

I had promised you that I will comment on your post even though I am not making posts on IF

Here is a cut and paste from my FB post today...kinda addresses what you have talked about:

Changing Tides...Epi Dec 5

As Nikhat said today- waqt ke saath log badal jaate hain

This is so true. In real life, people, their tastes, their likes/dislikes and their relationships all change with time.

I am just going to highlight a few changes here..

Dilshaad: A woman with a lot of self-respect, a single mother, a role model for a lot of us has recently been criticized a lot for her decision to move in with Rashid. While I agree that Rashid doesn't deserve a wonderful woman like Dilshaad but for any self respecting woman like Dilshaad it must have taken a lot to make such a big, life changing decision. Yes, she is being humiliated by everyone at the SM. Razia even called her besharam and behayaa. Ordinarily, any woman would have walked out after character was slandered like that. Dilshaad is no ordinary woman. If she could raise two kids single handedly in a male dominated Muslim society, she is also capable of swallowing her pride and self respect for the health and well being of the only man she has ever loved. If tomorrow, Asad was in a similar situation and God forbid, he had been forced into a marriage with the likes of Tanveer, would Zoya have abandoned him when he needed her? I am sure a lot of feminists would oppose that but women like Dilshaad and Zoya can go to any extent for the well being of the man they love. Yes, Dilshaad did break Asad's heart but she knew that at that moment in her life, Rashid needed her more than her son. Dilshaad has not been selfish but took a very difficult decision just for the sake of her love. Why would she want to stay in SM when Shireen and Razia are constantly breathing down her neck? Ishq par zor nahin and even though Rashid is a spineless and self centered man, Dilshaad can't help it if she fell in love with him and still does. It's strength of her character that she has endured Shireen's hatred, Razia's taunts and her son's heartbreak. My only hope is- once Rashid is hale and hearty- she can walk out of SM with her head held high-on her own terms.

Zoya: Yes, Zoya promised to take care of Asad after Dilshaad left. Yes, she let Asad walk away from home. Yes, she realized her folly and followed him to the airport. Yes, she wanted to stop him from leaving and not accompany him to NY.

Why? Because Zoya knows that Asad's happiness lies with his family. Even if he tries to run away from them, he still needs them and wants them in his life. A spouse's job is to help their spouse take a correct decision, not agree with them blindly. Just because Asad wanted to escape from the pain of his separation from his ammi, doesn't mean Zoya should add to his pain by taking him away from Dilshaad. She knows how close he is to his ammi. She also realizes that deep down, Asad has always craved for Rashid's acceptance. Yes, she called him stone hearted but trust me every wife in anger has said nastier things to her hubby. Of course she doesn't mean it. I know I have called my hubby cold hearted many times- but this is the woman in us trying to stir that emotion in our man. Asad's response was also very typical. When slighted by a spouse's words, most men just walk away. In fact, they become colder and more detached after such words. The reality is neither meant what they did or said in anger. Today, Asad was at the doorstep of SM because deep down even he knows he can only be happy with his ammi and family. People who feel Asad and Zoya are not each other's priorities are probably just being too idealistic. What we have seen since the MS episode is very real- that's how real marriages are. We all want romance and happy-shappy-sappy scenes but those don't happen in real life- except on certain occasions. In India, a marriage is an alliance between families not only two individuals. That's why prioritizing family over self interest is a harsh reality in our society. Asad and Zoya are incomplete without each other but as a unit are incomplete without their family. For Zoya, Asad's family is her family and that's why she can't separate herself from them.

Farhan_Nikhat: If I can forget the initial psycho version of Farhan, I kind of like this evolving Farhan-Nikhat love story. The way Nikhat's face lit up when he walked out in the pink shirt was the highlight for me today. Also, it was good to see a confident Nikhat today. I am glad she gave it back to Haseena in a very polite and courteous manner.

HaHu: Still not sure about this pair. I guess till Ayaan's future is uncertain, we will continue to see HaHu scenes. For now, I have no interest in their love story (if there is one)


the fact that you GRACED my post with your presence is enough for me! 😳

Thank you SOO much you found my post important enough to come back to IF to post! šŸ¤— ive been missing INTELLIGENCE in this forum.

as for your post! šŸ‘ Exactly.

and as for haHu.. honestly.. i just am very confused. I like the refresshing aspect to the scenes.. but its like if AsYa were sperated and Zoe was moving on..or scene with another person it would be HARD to digest.. similar with this.. its hard to digest and as an AyRa fan.. i just se lacking chemistry.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: LaVita-E-Bella


Lol Rosh I don't think he hides his hatred at all. Cough gun scene cough. But I definitely think he needs to voice all his pain to him. I'd love to seen a painful scene with angst where Asad tells Rashid how big of a screw up he is, and how much of a hell he made his life. I don't know if you ever watched Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, but there's this part, where she finally confronts her dad about how he bailed on her. It's really good, I recommend watching it. But I'd love to see something like that between the two. I definiltey don't think Rashid is redeemable, at least right now, and feel Asad shouldn't forgive him. Not only because of what he put his family through, but also the fact that a man who can stand there silently while a part of him, literal part of him is being cursed at and insulted, publicly too, he really has no sympathy from my part.


no no i mean hide his REAL feelings in the garb of hatred. šŸ˜†
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Posted: 11 years ago
#40
I love reality check posts!!! And yours rock Rosh!!! šŸ‘šŸ¼

It's easy to espouse all sorts of things online and virtually. In real world things work differently. haven't read the whole thread, just your post, will catchup later.

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