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Posted: 11 years ago
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The last two episodes of the show have been so intelligently written, that they have put me in a lot of thought about relations, their importance, the upbringing of a child and then priorities. There is no denying that relationships are never simple, merely that word itself sounds so complex. But when the word love is adjoined to it, the complexity does seem to ease up. I've been reading a lot of interesting discussions on the forum, some team Asad, some team Zoya. In normal cases I'd probably pick one side and sit down calmly 😆 But this time around the show and its well written episodes (Don't make me take back my words Mr PH ) have forced me to be Team AsYa.
A lot of people say that Asad and Zoya have never given each other priority over others. My question is, how does one decide priorities? Does loving one person mean that either of them should forget relations they've built over years? Does loving each other mean that their individuality, their pain, their issues with their life and their relationship with the rest of their closed ones cease to exist?

They have fallen in love with each other a few months ago, but there are certain issues they have been living with since their childhood. Both have longed for the love of a father, both have been abandoned. One doesn't have the answer for it and searches for it and the other knows the answer but wants to run away from it. These are the scars they have grown with, so how do we expect them to forget those scars and the kind of pain it has inflicted on them?

Asad was running away because the one person his life revolves around seemed to have chosen another man over him, he felt like his life had no meaning. It doesn't mean Zoya has no place in his life, had it been the case would he urge for her to come with him? She refused, he didn't retaliate because he saw sense in what she said, but his mental state made him see it as abandonment by her as well. Thus when she said she needed him he had melted, but the mention of his parents got him back to reality. The real source of his pain was their abandonment. He did not stop for his mother, nor did he stop for Zoya, he stopped because he knew he was needed, by someone, by anyone Everything is not about priorities, and for Asad this time around it was not about Zoya, not about his Ammi or Ayaan, it was about HIMSELF. He deserves peace, love and closure somewhere doesn't he?

Zoya is someone who cares for everyone she loves equally. She does not know the meaning of prioritizing it self. She wants to be of help to everyone, Dilshad, Asad, Najma.. her family. She didn't want to stop Dilshad even though she cried on the departure, knowing fully well it would break Asad, because it was her Phupi's choice, she thought she had every reason to decide for herself. She did not stop Asad from going and agreed to go with him until she realized that taking him away and going with him would only increase his pain than calm him. He would only just close his eyes from the truth, not stop feeling it within him. Zoya has craved for a parents love and for her it is really hard to understand WHY anyone would want to leave the parent, or not understand or forgive them. A person who craves for acceptance will always forgive and forget. She merely wanted Asad to not burn in his rage and hurt himself. I do not support her POV because I do not think Rashid deserves to be forgiven, and I do not think Asad is wrong in not wanting to do the same. But I do not think that Zoya has been biased with her priorities, pr loves Asad any less because her opinion differs from his.

When Asad and Zoya have never given priority to themselves individually, why would they ever intentionally or unintentionally be biased in not giving priority to each other.

The post got too long, but its rare cases when the episode gives me so much content to talk on. You could leave reading it if its boring 😆 sowwie :$ For those who didn't get bored, please chip in your thoughts 'CALMLY' 😛

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Posted: 11 years ago
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most sensible analysis post of this week .
well said .
but i am on team asad because i think that zoya was absolutely not right for preaching asad the importance of relationship .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I have no words for your post as it is written logically and WORD to everything...
The only word that makes Asad cringe is ABBU and if that is not in the equation of their or anyone's conversation with Asad than it is easier for him to comprehend and accept what the other person is trying to convey.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wonderful post from your side Anku 👏 😆

Team Asad vs Team Zoya = A never ending tale of war 😆

But then why do people forget it is just a 3 months to Asad and Zoya's relationship?
Why do they forget that Zoya and Asad both are flawed?
Why do they forget that Zoya and Asad's perception to situations are different?

Zoya doesn't wants Asad to suffer hence she spills venom like he did to his father over the phone. When she realized what happened, she ran to stop him.
Asad, a mentally damaged person, who is abandoned by his Mother and then by his only hope his Zoya in less than 24 hours how is a person supposed to react to?
Asad's main point of concern was his mother, she didn't need him but his father, hence like always he runs away from the situation. Zoya decided not to go with him, called him he is heartless, she doesnt loves him anymore, what else would he feel like? His reasons to live Ayaan Ammi Zoya abandoned him, what else would he do next? When Zoya came to stop him she kept on pleading about his father. She knows it irks him, still she did, cause yes she is right, that Rashid needs him, and he will regret all these later, but then She chose Her Phopphie over Asad, So Asad chose his Mother over Her. 😆 Zoya knows very well she hurt him, and it will take time, and she is ready for it. 😆

Both are still kids. 😆
The day they think alike, the day they perceive a situation in the similar point of view that day only they will become Muqqamaal 😳 😆

Abb Jab Miyaa aur Biwi Razi hai, Qazi ko HAMESHA kisi naa Kisi baat pe PROBLEM kyun hoti hai? 😆
Edited by MisHumptyDumpty - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Luckyforever

most sensible analysis post of this week .
well said .
but i am on team asad because i think that zoya was absolutely not right for preaching asad the importance of relationship .


Her words were definitely harsh, but I think it was her last resort to stop him. She had thought she had convinced him to stay back saying them. But she didn't realize she had pushed him further.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sheilasandhu

I have no words for your post as it is written logically and WORD to everything...

The only word that makes Asad cringe is ABBU and if that is not in the equation of their or anyone's conversation with Asad than it is easier for him to comprehend and accept what the other person is trying to convey.



Exactly, the only issue is Abbu. It is not that Asad does not love Rashid, I see love and longing in every word he says and thinks about Rashid. But he is shit scared to accept, forgive and forget, with the fear of being treated the same. And then again he has no reason to believe otherwise, what has Rashid done in all these years to prove that he loves or cares?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ankita.M


Exactly, the only issue is Abbu. It is not that Asad does not love Rashid, I see love and longing in every word he says and thinks about Rashid. But he is shit scared to accept, forgive and forget, with the fear of being treated the same. And then again he has no reason to believe otherwise, what has Rashid done in all these years to prove that he loves or cares?


Zoya forgives and forgets everything. Where as Asad doesn't .
He called Zoya Misfit cause he knew He was the ONE who was the Misfit for her
He is a very weak man, he selflessly sacrifices for the people whom he loves cause he doesn't wants to lose them. He is afraid to accept Rashid cause he fears he will again be left. Hence he keeps on saying 'Apne ne mujhse meri Abbu chinn lii thi!'
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MisHumptyDumpty

Wonderful post from your side Anku 👏 😆


Team Asad vs Team Zoya = A never ending tale of war 😆

But then why do people forget it is just a 3 months to Asad and Zoya's relationship?
Why do they forget that Zoya and Asad both are flawed?
Why do they forget that Zoya and Asad's perception to situations are different?

Zoya doesn't wants Asad to suffer hence she spills venom like he did to his father over the phone. When she realized what happened, she ran to stop him.
Asad, a mentally damaged person, who is abandoned by his Mother and then by his only hope his Zoya in less than 24 hours how is a person supposed to react to?
Asad's main point of concern was his mother, she didn't need him but his father, hence like always he runs away from the situation. Zoya decided not to go with him, called him he is heartless, she doesnt loves him anymore, what else would he feel like? His reasons to live Ayaan Ammi Zoya abandoned him, what else would he do next? When Zoya came to stop him she kept on pleading about his father. She knows it irks him, still she did, cause yes she is right, that Rashid needs him, and he will regret all these later, but then She chose Her Phopphie over Asad, So Asad chose his Mother over Her. 😆 Zoya knows very well she hurt him, and it will take time, and she is ready for it. 😆

Both are still kids. 😆
The day they think alike, they day they perceive a situation in the similar point of of view sense then only they will become Muqqamaal 😳 😆

Abb Jab Miyaa aur Biwi Razi hai, Qazi ko HAMESHA kisi naa Kisi baat pe PROBLEM kyun hoti hai? 😆


Asad and Zoya's destinies have been written very similarly and HAVE to come to a point of agreement one day, because their situations are mirror images (Very well proved by Bheegi di ) If it happens now, there will be no story left to say.
The only thing is that they see the same thing in two different ways. I do not blame either in this scenario for any of their decisions, because from their POV it is right.
I just don't like that either of their love be questioned for the other TBH, just because two people have different opinions does it mean their love for the other ceases to exist? 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MisHumptyDumpty

<font size="2">Wonderful post from your side Anku 👏😆</font>

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<font size="2">Team Asad vs Team Zoya = A never ending tale of war😆</font>
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<font size="2">But then why do people forget it is just a 3 months to Asad and Zoya's relationship?</font>
<font size="2">Why do they forget that Zoya and Asad both are flawed?</font>
<font size="2">Why do they forget that Zoya and Asad's perception to situations are different?</font>
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<font size="2">Zoya doesn't wants Asad to suffer hence she spills venom like he did to his father over the phone. When she realized what happened, she ran to stop him.</font>
<font size="2">Asad, a mentally damaged person, who is abandoned by his Mother and then by his only hope his Zoya in less than 24 hours how is a person supposed to react to?</font>
<font size="2">Asad's main point of concern was his mother, shedidn'tneed him but his father, hence like always he runs away fromthesituation. Zoya decided not to go with him, called him he is heartless, she doesnt loves him anymore, what else would he feel like? His reasons to live Ayaan Ammi Zoya abandoned him, what else would he do next? When Zoya came to stop him she kept on pleading about his father. She knows it irks him, still she did, cause yes she is right, that Rashid needs him, and he willregretalltheselater, but then She chose Her Phopphie over Asad, So Asad chose his Mother over Her. 😆Zoya knows very well she hurt him, and it will take time, and she is ready for it.😆</font>
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<font size="2">Both are still kids.😆</font>
<font size="2">The day they think alike, they day theyperceivea situation in thesimilarpoint of of viewsense then only they will become Muqqamaal😳😆</font>
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<font size="2">Abb Jab Miyaa aur Biwi Razi hai, Qazi ko HAMESHA kisi naa Kisi baat pe PROBLEM kyun hoti hai?😆</font>


wonderfully written although in a diplomatic way .
but well said .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ankita I completely agree with you. In fact, I made a post along similar lines yesterday.
Here it is if you are interested:
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/qubool-hai/3834912/my-take-on-the-amazing-episode-dec-3rd

But I have one addition today: I feel that people are dragging in AsYa's love in this mess for no reason. Their love should be questioned again and again if they have a disagreement, a fight, heck even a separation. I honestly feel their love is above petty issues. And like you said had Zoya not mentioned Rashid/Dilshad Asad had already melted. Furthermore, suppose he even left, I bet he would come running back because he misses Zoya. People are too harsh on AsYa. Just because they love each other does not mean they will always agree with each other.


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