In Defense Of Zoya - Page 11

Created

Last reply

Replies

134

Views

8.5k

Users

55

Likes

519

Frequent Posters

bheegi thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ranz

Fine I accept your point of view about Zoya but what I cannot understand where is the hurry to take decisions so fast---Asad is going against his instincts -- Zoya should talk to him and listen to his point of view instead of just repeating her point of view! She has totally forgotten about her marriage and is advocating Najma's marriage with such urgency! Let the other person talk. Asad is in a dilemna-- should he follow his instincts or should he abide by Zoya's thought process---he has grave doubts on himself and his judgement after the Tanveer saga so he is confused--Zoya should talk to him and discuss these aspects, about his insecurities and feelings for his step siblings and how distressed he is with the situation---it is written all over his face!


yes, there should be no hurry. That's the mistake Zoya is def making but I feel she is taking Dilshaad's words too seriously- dono nikaah ek din kar lete hain

Somewhere deep down, Zoya is insecure about her nikaah with Asad (they have already broken it twice) and we saw it in the garden scene where she was really despo to get married.

I feel Dilsaad should put her foot down here- go ahead with AsYa nikaah and maybe just have an engagement for Najma. This gives them all a breather
bheegi thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: meezishu

Before we judge Zoya, we have to remember a few important facts.

1) Zoya is not all knowing; in this case, us, as the audience are. She does not really know anything except Imraan and Najma loving each other. She also does not know Imraan or Haseena Bi that well, she has no idea what lengths Haseena Bi (HB) could go to. What she sees is herself helping two lovers, one of whom happens to be the best friend she loves like a little sister, get together.
Also, Dilshad asked Zoya to find a husband for Najma, and Zoya sees Imraan as someone who could make Najma happy, the way Asad makes Zoya happy.
Her exposure to Imraan and HB is very limited. She has seen Imraan stand up for Najma, but she has not seen him keep quie with Nikhat. Also, while HB seems to be irritating and obviously not the best MIL, we have to remember another important point here.

2) Family dynamics. Zoya has never lived in a joint family, she has no idea about what occurs in one, and people can't expect her to. She grew up in the US with Zeenat and Anwar as basically the only family she knew. Then she came to India and lives with the Khans.
The delicacy of this situation is going over her head. Her reaction is actually understandable here, and only, if you know, as we do the whole situation will you see her actions as wrong or creating trouble.
Of course Zoya didn't understand where Asad was coming from. She doesn't understand this relationship that the two households have, and if you notice, throughout the show, so far, she has hardly been exposed to them. Most of her interactions with the other family have been completely superficial. She only knows what she has been told and guessed. In fact if you remember much earlier in the show, she wasn't able to comprehend the consequences of making Asad and Ayan meet up. Her familial experiences are very limited, and thats why she is unable to understand this situation.
She is only thinking of 'her' family, Dilshad, Najma and Asad. She doesn't understand the bond Asad shares with his other siblings, and until the Ghaffur track plays out, she wont be able to do so.

Family dynamics and values are learned. Each family is different. You can't learn these things with out being in the situation yourself. Heck, I myself don't understand family dynamics with joint families.
As someone who has grown up outside my home country and away from it all, I can definitely understand and relate to Zoya.

3) Zoya has always meddled in Najma's business, she has always stood up for Najma, spoken for her when she was scared of Asad's reaction and tries to look out for her. Najma sees Zoya as someone who will always be in her corner, and hold her hand.
Currently Zoya is only thinking of making Najma happy. She can't stand to be happy if Najma is unhappy, this is why I'm guessing she is pushing for the Najran nikah. She sees this wedding as something which will make both Najma and Dilshad happy, Najma will get married to the guy she loves and Dilshad won't have to worry about finding a groom for Najma.

4) Zoya doesnt truly get the in-laws concept. She has never experienced the situation herself, Dilshad is like a mother to her, and Najma like a sister. She has not been exposed to what a Desi marriage is truly like. We saw it from her wishlist. Zoya was, like any other young Desi girl, living in between two cultures, a western and desi one, looking for the perfect guy. She has not considered the 'in-law' situation and its not as important to her. She wants a good partner for Najma, the way Asad is a good partner to her. Also, she still hasn't had to consider it, Dilshad and Najma to her, are not her in-laws. She has for long, considered them her family.
She has dismissed HB because she truly doesn't get the relationship, the dynamic. She thinks that as long as Imraan and Najma are happy, everything is hunky dory.
Someone who isn't exposed to in-laws won't be able to understand their significance, if you've grown up in a desi culture, its something you get exposed to, even if you live in a nuclear setup, but a lot of my friends who I know have lived in a set up without being exposed to this type of relationship don't understand the importance.

5)This brings us to my next point, Zoya has always spoken up for what she believes in. Its to an extent, a cultural thing, us expecting her as the 'Bahu' of the KV to keep her mouth shut. We have to remember though, she's grown up in New York, and her values, and ideas are impacted by both Indian and Western culture. She stood up for Mariam, and now she sees herself standing up for Najma's feelings. We sympathised with her in the Mariam track because she was standing up for what was right. We have to remember though, that Zoya is under the belief that she is helping Najma. If we had been unaware of what was going on in the other household, we probably would not have bashed Zoya as much.
We actually see a beautiful portrayal of cultural concept here, our personal cultures make us who we are. Zoya grew up alone and independent as a result, but also outspoken. No one ever stopped her from speaking out. We see someone who is on the brink of two cultures, and trying to balance both. This is what attracts me to Zoya as a character the most.

6) Zoya's exposure to marriage is limited to what she has witnessed between Anwar and Zeenat. Our idea of marriage and love comes from what we are exposed to as children. We learn from what we grow up observing. Se has not grown up in a dysfunctional family, and she probably never had to deal with extended family. Her idea of love is also probably a slightly westernized one, Zoya has always been a romantic at heart. We see her portrayed as someone who views love as something which can conquer everything.
Her first dealing with love is with Asad, and well, in he end everything seemed to work out for the two of them. She honestly believes Love conquers all, and shes so happy she has found her one true love, and wants the same for Najma.

I'd like to end by saying that, Zoya here was neither wrong nor was she right, she was simply doing what a number of us, including myself would have done in this situation. No one is always right in real life, but just because we are not right doesn't mean we're wrong, no situation is black or white, usually its grey. I honestly love the portrayal of this character, because to me, she is just a good person, who can make mistakes, who doesn't always come out on top, some one who stands up for what she believes in.

I don't actually find her all that annoying, but I relate to her in many ways, because she is imperfect, just like every other person I know.

If you've found Zoya's character annoying from the start, the chances are you'll never like her, and thats fine, all of us are entitled to like whichever character we like.


very well summarized. You have covered all the points we all have been discussing in the last 12 pages👏
bheegi thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: mottali

Good one...


On the flip side, if Z had not pushed for the meeting, Nikhat would still be in her la-la-la land where she believed that Imran loves her but just cant stand against his mother. This will shake her from the misconception of love and let her move along in life.

Look at the bright side...Nikhat has been saved from a life of misery.


yes, the bandaid has been ripped off...it hurts initially but ultimately heals the wounds😊
bheegi thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sujataraje

@sangi-so farhaan can come for nikhat..and nikhat can get married to same haseena family...height of stupidity...😆

imraan nazma break up😆
then what i mean where story will go...??? shireen will have gala time and nazma shedding tears and dilshaad again seeing nazma suffering from heartbreak😆

is there possibility that both sisters might get married into same family????..i doubt marriage can not happen in QH so easily😆


a lot of people are predicting that...that will bring the sisters closer and they can be a united front against HB😆
Depends on Gul's budget😆...if she wants to continue with HB family or not
GoodGoneWrong thumbnail
20th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 500 Thumbnail + 7
Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: bheegi


exactly Rivs...Zoya has not seen Lalita Pawar movies either😆

But I bet she has seen Debra and Marie...They are my western version of ILs from hell...
bheegi thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 12 years ago
Just saw this spoiler on tumblr- posted by Oishi?

Credit: OISHI

Zoya Becomes A Detective!!!!!

Asad who was restless after his fight with his brother Ayaan and the effect of the broken relationship on Nikhat goes to Ayaan and offers to break off Najma€™s wedding. However, like true brothers they realize that their feelings for their €œone family€ are really strong and so they embrace and make up.

After this the preparations for Nazma and Imraan€™s wedding is carried out in full scale. While the preparations are on Zoya, despite being busy with the preparations, will suddenly notice something fishy about Imraan€™s behaviour. She wonders if he is having second thoughts about marrying Najma.

Maybe Zoya will notice him becoming restless after a phone call. She does know that it will be Tanveer who is calling to blackmailing him about the fact that she is bearing his child.

Zoya will sense that something is wrong in Imran€™s behavior as he will be acting nervous and tense. She will follow him in true detective style and we will have to wait and watch to find out if she gets to know about his relationship with Tanveer. Knowing Zoya we will see that she will not rest till she finds out all about Imran



so, all those bashing Zoya hold your horses...Zoya is after Gul's alter ego :)

armaanasadksg thumbnail
Explorer Thumbnail Commentator Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 12 years ago
I dunno why but i dnt feel bad for nobody but asad in this show...AT ALL TIMES...zoya is seccond...i dnt think any siddiques can ever have my sympathies...cuz each and every one of em is SELFISH...including ayaan...and nikhat (bcuz if ppl expect her to have asads support and sympathy im sorry but when assad need support and sympathy and everyone was against him...nikhat was the top in all she was the first to blame him accuse him over for a STRANGER...and i cannot forget tht sorrryyy) Asad isnt god soo ppl shud stop expecting him to be one...all QH characters need to realize asad dsnt HAVE to do anything for u guyz if he dsnt want to so instead of being ungrateful abt it plzz realize wht he goes out of his way to do for u...(NIKHATS HOUSE) sooo stop burdening him to a point where he breaks!

ya nikhats SITUATION is sad..but uhm i wudve liked it better if she spoke the truth and NOT acted selfless...JUST MY OPINION...im not a big sucker for selfless ppl..IM SORRY...i dnt believe in inflicting pain on urself...
she shudve spoken the truth and then been like I LUV IMRAN AND THTS THE TRUTH BUT IF NAJMA AND IMRAN LUV EACH OTHER THEN THEY CAN MARRY...
Ayaan- LETS NOT TALK ABT
he is big headache for me
GoodyTwoShoes thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: bheegi

Just saw this spoiler on tumblr- posted by Oishi?


Credit: OISHI

Zoya Becomes A Detective!!!!!

Asad who was restless after his fight with his brother Ayaan and the effect of the broken relationship on Nikhat goes to Ayaan and offers to break off Najmas wedding. However, like true brothers they realize that their feelings for their one family are really strong and so they embrace and make up.

After this the preparations for Nazma and Imraans wedding is carried out in full scale. While the preparations are on Zoya, despite being busy with the preparations, will suddenly notice something fishy about Imraans behaviour. She wonders if he is having second thoughts about marrying Najma.

Maybe Zoya will notice him becoming restless after a phone call. She does know that it will be Tanveer who is calling to blackmailing him about the fact that she is bearing his child.

Zoya will sense that something is wrong in Imrans behavior as he will be acting nervous and tense. She will follow him in true detective style and we will have to wait and watch to find out if she gets to know about his relationship with Tanveer. Knowing Zoya we will see that she will not rest till she finds out all about Imran



so, all those bashing Zoya hold your horses...Zoya is after Gul's alter ego :)

has oishi posted this????? it sounds more like prediction...but i would be happy if it comes out true😆
bheegi thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: armaanasadksg

I dunno why but i dnt feel bad for nobody but asad in this show...AT ALL TIMES...zoya is seccond...i dnt think any siddiques can ever have my sympathies...cuz each and every one of em is SELFISH...including ayaan...and nikhat (bcuz if ppl expect her to have asads support and sympathy im sorry but when assad need support and sympathy and everyone was against him...nikhat was the top in all she was the first to blame him accuse him over for a STRANGER...and i cannot forget tht sorrryyy) Asad isnt god soo ppl shud stop expecting him to be one...all QH characters need to realize asad dsnt HAVE to do anything for u guyz if he dsnt want to so instead of being ungrateful abt it plzz realize wht he goes out of his way to do for u...(NIKHATS HOUSE) sooo stop burdening him to a point where he breaks!

ya nikhats SITUATION is sad..but uhm i wudve liked it better if she spoke the truth and NOT acted selfless...JUST MY OPINION...im not a big sucker for selfless ppl..IM SORRY...i dnt believe in inflicting pain on urself...
she shudve spoken the truth and then been like I LUV IMRAN AND THTS THE TRUTH BUT IF NAJMA AND IMRAN LUV EACH OTHER THEN THEY CAN MARRY...
Ayaan- LETS NOT TALK ABT
he is big headache for me


i do agree that Asad takes his responsibility as older brother more seriously than any of the SM kids. They just remember him during crisis. Asad def needs to first think about his KV family first and become selfish in that respect
bheegi thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sujataraje

has oishi posted this????? it sounds more like prediction...but i would be happy if it comes out true😆


yeah, i was wondering why i didn't see it on IF...

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".