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Posted: 12 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: notagain



This is exactly why they are just characters in a show, and maybe some of it is borrowed from reality.

It does give us an opportunity to discuss real issues in an alternate universe of IF. 😆



All these characters would either be in jail or dead in the real world 😃

Asad, Ayaan, razia, tanveer, rashid and gaffur for sure.

Oh and zoya would be mince 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#82
mere dil ki baat kahanay kay liya...thank you..
sab nay sab ko dishum dishum kiya..
kissi ko nahi choda..
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Posted: 12 years ago
#83
Fine I accept your point of view about Zoya but what I cannot understand where is the hurry to take decisions so fast---Asad is going against his instincts -- Zoya should talk to him and listen to his point of view instead of just repeating her point of view! She has totally forgotten about her marriage and is advocating Najma's marriage with such urgency! Let the other person talk. Asad is in a dilemna-- should he follow his instincts or should he abide by Zoya's thought process---he has grave doubts on himself and his judgement after the Tanveer saga so he is confused--Zoya should talk to him and discuss these aspects, about his insecurities and feelings for his step siblings and how distressed he is with the situation---it is written all over his face!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#84
Great post Bheegi, as usual. 😊

I'm irritated with Zoya too like many others for being immature, insensitive n impulsive but I won't talk abt that coz enuf has been said on the topic n I've given my 2 cents on a few threads. But I'll definitely talk about the 'punishments' decided for her by few of our forum members as follows:

Zoya deserves to be separated from Asad:
Has Zoya tried to separate anyone??? She has just tried to get Najma n Imran together. She hasn't tried to separate Nikhat n Imran. Nikhat broke the rishta herself n no one fm KV knows the reason. Zoya herself has been a victim of separation n gone thru it so she knows what it is to be separated. So why shd she be separated fm Asad to learn a few things abt life???

Zoya deserves to be thrown out of KV:
KV members are her life n family. Just as they have provided her shelter when in Bhopal she has also done a few things out of her way like saving Najma fm goons n saving Dilshad fm the attacker. It was risky but Zoya dint bother coz she loved Najma n Dilshad. So shd they throw her out coz of her recent behaviour??? If that is so we all need to be thrown out of our houses at some point of time for misbehaving, arguing, being immature n insensitive like Zoya with our family members.

Zoya doesn't deserve to be Asad's wife:
This is probably the harshest n weirdest punishment. By that logic Asad doesn't deserve to be Zoya's hubby. Did she deserve that slap? Did she deserve to be told that she doesn't deserve parents? Did she deserve to be told that her parents dint have the time to teach her tameez n tehzeeb n zimmedaari ka ehsaas n aas paas ke maahaul ki kadra karna n all that blah blah? Did she deserve to be insulted n humiliated n not be trusted? Asad dint deserve Zoya then AT ALL.

Of course Asad realised what a jerk he was n apologised for his behaviour. Asad n Zoya are both flawed characters. They are still an adorable couple made for each other (n also mad for each other)

So if the above mentioned punishment is what she deserves then what abt Asad n Ayaan? What abt Rashid n Ghaffur? I'd rather not talk abt Razia n the one and only Tannu.


Edited by nautanki_anu - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#85
very nice post dii am so agree with u i hope ppl stop bashing my poor zoya 😔
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Posted: 12 years ago
#86
Agree to every bit of your post
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Before we judge Zoya, we have to remember a few important facts.

1) Zoya is not all knowing; in this case, us, as the audience are. She does not really know anything except Imraan and Najma loving each other. She also does not know Imraan or Haseena Bi that well, she has no idea what lengths Haseena Bi (HB) could go to. What she sees is herself helping two lovers, one of whom happens to be the best friend she loves like a little sister, get together.
Also, Dilshad asked Zoya to find a husband for Najma, and Zoya sees Imraan as someone who could make Najma happy, the way Asad makes Zoya happy.
Her exposure to Imraan and HB is very limited. She has seen Imraan stand up for Najma, but she has not seen him keep quie with Nikhat. Also, while HB seems to be irritating and obviously not the best MIL, we have to remember another important point here.

2) Family dynamics. Zoya has never lived in a joint family, she has no idea about what occurs in one, and people can't expect her to. She grew up in the US with Zeenat and Anwar as basically the only family she knew. Then she came to India and lives with the Khans.
The delicacy of this situation is going over her head. Her reaction is actually understandable here, and only, if you know, as we do the whole situation will you see her actions as wrong or creating trouble.
Of course Zoya didn't understand where Asad was coming from. She doesn't understand this relationship that the two households have, and if you notice, throughout the show, so far, she has hardly been exposed to them. Most of her interactions with the other family have been completely superficial. She only knows what she has been told and guessed. In fact if you remember much earlier in the show, she wasn't able to comprehend the consequences of making Asad and Ayan meet up. Her familial experiences are very limited, and thats why she is unable to understand this situation.
She is only thinking of 'her' family, Dilshad, Najma and Asad. She doesn't understand the bond Asad shares with his other siblings, and until the Ghaffur track plays out, she wont be able to do so.

Family dynamics and values are learned. Each family is different. You can't learn these things with out being in the situation yourself. Heck, I myself don't understand family dynamics with joint families.
As someone who has grown up outside my home country and away from it all, I can definitely understand and relate to Zoya.

3) Zoya has always meddled in Najma's business, she has always stood up for Najma, spoken for her when she was scared of Asad's reaction and tries to look out for her. Najma sees Zoya as someone who will always be in her corner, and hold her hand.
Currently Zoya is only thinking of making Najma happy. She can't stand to be happy if Najma is unhappy, this is why I'm guessing she is pushing for the Najran nikah. She sees this wedding as something which will make both Najma and Dilshad happy, Najma will get married to the guy she loves and Dilshad won't have to worry about finding a groom for Najma.

4) Zoya doesnt truly get the in-laws concept. She has never experienced the situation herself, Dilshad is like a mother to her, and Najma like a sister. She has not been exposed to what a Desi marriage is truly like. We saw it from her wishlist. Zoya was, like any other young Desi girl, living in between two cultures, a western and desi one, looking for the perfect guy. She has not considered the 'in-law' situation and its not as important to her. She wants a good partner for Najma, the way Asad is a good partner to her. Also, she still hasn't had to consider it, Dilshad and Najma to her, are not her in-laws. She has for long, considered them her family.
She has dismissed HB because she truly doesn't get the relationship, the dynamic. She thinks that as long as Imraan and Najma are happy, everything is hunky dory.
Someone who isn't exposed to in-laws won't be able to understand their significance, if you've grown up in a desi culture, its something you get exposed to, even if you live in a nuclear setup, but a lot of my friends who I know have lived in a set up without being exposed to this type of relationship don't understand the importance.

5)This brings us to my next point, Zoya has always spoken up for what she believes in. Its to an extent, a cultural thing, us expecting her as the 'Bahu' of the KV to keep her mouth shut. We have to remember though, she's grown up in New York, and her values, and ideas are impacted by both Indian and Western culture. She stood up for Mariam, and now she sees herself standing up for Najma's feelings. We sympathised with her in the Mariam track because she was standing up for what was right. We have to remember though, that Zoya is under the belief that she is helping Najma. If we had been unaware of what was going on in the other household, we probably would not have bashed Zoya as much.
We actually see a beautiful portrayal of cultural concept here, our personal cultures make us who we are. Zoya grew up alone and independent as a result, but also outspoken. No one ever stopped her from speaking out. We see someone who is on the brink of two cultures, and trying to balance both. This is what attracts me to Zoya as a character the most.

6) Zoya's exposure to marriage is limited to what she has witnessed between Anwar and Zeenat. Our idea of marriage and love comes from what we are exposed to as children. We learn from what we grow up observing. Se has not grown up in a dysfunctional family, and she probably never had to deal with extended family. Her idea of love is also probably a slightly westernized one, Zoya has always been a romantic at heart. We see her portrayed as someone who views love as something which can conquer everything.
Her first dealing with love is with Asad, and well, in he end everything seemed to work out for the two of them. She honestly believes Love conquers all, and shes so happy she has found her one true love, and wants the same for Najma.

I'd like to end by saying that, Zoya here was neither wrong nor was she right, she was simply doing what a number of us, including myself would have done in this situation. No one is always right in real life, but just because we are not right doesn't mean we're wrong, no situation is black or white, usually its grey. I honestly love the portrayal of this character, because to me, she is just a good person, who can make mistakes, who doesn't always come out on top, some one who stands up for what she believes in.

I don't actually find her all that annoying, but I relate to her in many ways, because she is imperfect, just like every other person I know.

If you've found Zoya's character annoying from the start, the chances are you'll never like her, and thats fine, all of us are entitled to like whichever character we like.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#88
Brilliant post! I wonder why people are bashing someone for just being her self. Yes, she was annoying but she wasn't out of character and she's not good enough for Asad or that she should leave KV (are you freakng kidding me!??) is utter bull shit.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#89
Good one...

On the flip side, if Z had not pushed for the meeting, Nikhat would still be in her la-la-la land where she believed that Imran loves her but just cant stand against his mother. This will shake her from the misconception of love and let her move along in life.

Look at the bright side...Nikhat has been saved from a life of misery.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#90


Farhan does seem like a real character- he is Imran's older brother. I feel Nikhat might get hooked up with him but how and when would she meet him?
Will Farhan's entry create the J track between AsYa? Hope not because Asya are beyond that stage in their relationship. The only benefit of Farhan could be busting Imran's true nature. Farhan might know of his one night stand etc...and if he is Zoya's friend, tell her his brother's true colors? Am I being too optimistic?

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