Point to be noted - Page 6

Originally posted by: delena90

I know enough. Do not presume to know what i read or don't read.

If you cannot appreciate that people are going to disagree then don't post topics where people are going to question the very ideology of what you have said.

i have courage to bear, bt what u r saying is wrong... any ways im quiting here.. have a gud day

Originally posted by: KaBhi-FAN

if u believe that ur holy buk is written by man u can bt dnt say anythng about my religion esp when u r 100 percnt wrong.. i havent said anythng wrng abt ur religion n also expecting the same from u

I am an ATHEIST and believe in NO RELIGION. And I haven't insulted the Quran,

Originally posted by: delena90

You would never wear doesn't mean others won't.

. Girl "you want to wear doesnt mean others hav to" u know i really dont want to mak a religion lesson here. as a muslim bg serial they should respect a minimum what my religion say about clothes. Please dont tell me tht we can wear short skirt in muslim religion PLEASE.i f u want to wear short skirt you can its your choise but dont tell us tht muslim religion allowed tht because its false. Allah see what is in your heart nd your intentions its true but when you wear a short skirt what is your intention ?

Originally posted by: delena90

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The Vedas said this even before Prophet Mohammad existed. In fact all religious text had some form of science in it. But it still remains that they were all written by MAN.

you knou need to survey things as i can'texplain everything n u said na u have muslim freinds tell them yto say anything about quran i m sure they will help you

Originally posted by: delena90

I am an ATHEIST and believe in NO RELIGION. And I haven't insulted the Quran,

. DeAr delana you said tht the quran was wrting by a man LOL its definitly tht u dont know anything about the muslim religion nd its revelation nd its ascension. Please speak about your opinion but never about religion tht u dont even know

This thread seems to have become too personal.

I think everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Muslims believe in the words of the Qu'ran. And the Qu'ran along with other Islamic books, states what a Muslim can and cannot do, i.e. they cannot drink alcohol, dress showing their skin, having sexual realtions before marriage etc. These are not opinions. These are what is written in Islamic books. People however, choose whether to follow it or not. But Muslims know that the words of God cannot be changed.

@delena90, I have nothing against you. I think you're entitled to your opinion. Islam however existed since the beginning with Prophet Adam, the first man created, but God made it clear with Prophet Muhammad, and that's when the religion of Islam was perfectly formed.
I know you're an athiest and therefore you don't believe in any of this, but Muslims do believe in the Qu'ran, otherwise they can't be a Muslim. And if the Islamic books prohibit a Muslim from doing something, then it means it is forbidden, there's no two ways about it. People are either ignorant about their own religion or choose to be ignorant about it, but it doesn't mean what they do is actually allowed in the religion and I'm sure many know this but don't care. Unfortunately we can't pick and choose what we believe in a religion, you either believe in it or you don't. We can't make it up as we go along with it.
But you are right in the sense that God won't just look at someone's clothes, but it is a factor and it is clearly stated in Islamic books.
I have friends from many religions, they know they do wrong by their religion, but they don't see it as a big deal so carry on doing wrong, but it doesn't mean it's actually allowed in the religion.
I know you're probably thinking why is this person explaining all this to me when I'm an Atheist lol. But I just thought I'd explain so you understand why others might react strongly to your opinions.

My basic point was that religions do have certain things which are explicitly stated in religious books, but many choose to ignore it, but it doesn't make them a bad person, just that they give other factors more importance, but it doesn't mean the things which they do wrong are actually permissable in their religion.

Hope I made sense.

Originally posted by: mbficoa1987

Agree! Cvs are showing reality--Zoya is a Muslim girl but we can't overlook the fact that she is not a middle eastern girl but an American citizen!
Also, Adam and Eve were naked--they realized their nakedness only after they gave into sin-- it's was their shame that made them wanna cover themselves--and that's why we all cover up now because of the sin in the world--no purity in hearts of people so we can't walk around without clothes but God's original plan wasn't clothes! I have never read in any faith book about God giving clothes to Adam and Eve!

To me it looked like Zoya and Najma were just having a girl time where Najma ended up asking her to show a skirt..and Asad/the priest just happened to be there--it was all just about bad timing..Zoya would never on purpose disrespect the culture or the guest!!! Even I suggest that we should just wait for the episode! Episode hasn't even aired yet and people have started questioning the scene based on SBB/SBS--I love (sarcasm) how the forum has debates about everything but the show--Zoya nay skirt kya mehn liya, another debate has begun! Kinda makes me laugh..anyways..I am outa here!!! :)