Redemption - Qubool Nahain Hai

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Posted: 12 years ago
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First and foremost, I would like it respected that several threads have been created by forum members promoting this redemption track. I feel that since my post is not in support, that it has as much right to be here as that of any other post on this forum. It is important for people who are fans of the show, KSG, Asya, that this post is designed to highlight some very serious concerns and horrifically poor treatment of what is really meant by redemption particularly in situations that we witnessed this week.

Monday's episode for me was like a punch in the stomach (no pun intended). If Zoya had been slapped, the PH and the CV slapped me in the face with this incident. Shaken, I had to compose myself and wonder, how can I even continue to watch this show knowing what I see is so very wrong.

Everyone is entitled to redemption, so what can be done at this point for the writers to salvage this story that could make this scene palatable for us. Although it will no longer hold the magic...can we even bring ourselves to stomach this romance again?

In the redemption scene I wrote (see below)

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3422516

there were key elements...Asad would acknowledge what he was wrong not by learning the truth but by the sheer acts alone...that did not happen. Instead, his mother told him what happened and pangs of guilt swept over this face...evidently he had to change his clothes before he went to see Zoya (perhaps he needed to take a cold shower to cleanse himself of the sweat of guilt...who knows).

Entering into the room, the most redeeming scene was witnessing Zoya stand her ground with her words of "you've insulted me enough me enough" But to make it worse, what he heck was the Mitwaa background music playing in the background? There is nothing romantic here...it is sad and tragic situation where a young girl has been demeaned to the lowest level possible.

Then to make matters worse, instead of the flowers (not that is the answer but what is typically given after an episode of this nature), Asad brings her some bitter coffee in a mug - Some people are oohing and ahhing that it was his mug, but seriously people they have many mugs in black in the house...we have the same mugs..I assure, you cannot tell which one is yours unless you put a mark on the bottom - they are made by Correlle!

The whole apology scene is so reminiscent of the honeymoon period of the cycle of abuse where we see the loving contrition where the man is remorseful, apologetic...and he goes out of his way to be kind, tranquil and loving..and all of sudden every naive young viewer will think - o, it is all right now.

And Zoya, like a typical victim now thinks she is sole source of the abuser's emotional support when she says "I understand you" and takes ownership of the whole situation with "I'm sorry." (What was that for?) What the writers gave was one of the most psychological victimizing moments perpetuating an illusion of interdependence - he depends on her forgiveness, she depends on the "real" man coming back. (And that annoying Mitwa track keeps playing in the background!)

Granted Asad said "I'm sorry" but it was so matter-of-fact without any heartfelt thought...no, I should never have hit you, it was wrong"...just a bit of mumbling under his breath...and then in response to those cruel worlds..."I didn't mean it." (But at the time Asad, you did).

It was heartbreaking to watch her joke around and make light of the episode of her mistreatment ..just heart wrenching to see how they (the writers) have made light of such a serious issue...it could have been handled with so much depth but simply doled out to us as a matter-of-fact apology in a bitter cup of coffee.

Writers, you have sorely disappointed me. You have killed the magic of what could have been a wonderful jodi. I realize this is a show, but we cannot suspend our principals aside and accept that all is well between two characters. For to accept a story with warmth and enjoyment, we have to take it for what it is worth and no tragicially relationship can be built on this type of treatment.

Redemption on my end. Qubool Nahain Hain. I challenge you to do better.

Edited by Laila2009 - 12 years ago

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Rockerchic thumbnail
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Laila darling you go girl 👏

Gul Khan or was it Nissar, in any case, some time ago, she said that TV characters do not reflect real life and they are larger than life and things are exaggerated.

Well clearly Ms Gul doesn't know where to draw the line.

Asad's anger is not the problem. He can be angry. But it was the screen play. It was very poor. We know that it never stops with one slap and it's the beginning of physical abuse.

Clearly Gul didn't do her research well.

She is just projecting it as something normal when it isn't. She isn't going into the psychological aspect of it.

Knowing that zero thought has been gone into writing the story, i feel it's a waste of time for me to look for logics.

In her previous show the male lead pushed the female lead from the first floor. I knew what i was in for when i tuned into this show.

I've learned it's better to selectively tune out most things because Gul will not change her style of story telling.

So i've sort of tried to understand why Zoya didn't walk away (assuming the slap didn't happen) - http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3427332

Asad. Well he needs hell a lot of character development for me to actually like him.

Edited by Rockerchic - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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UNRES

Yesterday's episode was a tight slap on our face also. Though I knew Gul has no brain, still I expected something more. Thought she learned something from her previous mistakes! But I was wrong again.

Asad was feeling gulity but for what? because then he came to know that he slapped her for wrong reason, He was not ashamed that he raised hand on a woman! So pathetic!

Background music Mitwa Ishq pe zor nhi! Kidding us!?! A girl is crying, she is insulted, slapped by a man. There nothing like "ISHQ" exists!

I can't expect more from this creative team! Sorry!

And Laila, I watched that episode twice! But sorry, I didn't feel he was really sorry for what he did.

May be because the actor was unable to make me feel that Asad was sorry. Otherwise I have eye problems!



Edited by I_Dont_Know - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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She can do better than that, a girl that goes back to her life after being treated like a piece of shit as if nothing happened really sends the wrong message. If she had an ounce of dignity and self respect she would make him heavens and mountains before she gives him another chance to redeem himself.

Here desperation reeks out of her, if she is so bat crazy after this guy then she deserves to be treated like a door mat.
Edited by TheBoss - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@leila i totally understand ur pov

but read this post dear...u might feel better
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Posted: 12 years ago
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A biiig qubool nahin hai to this redemption too!

Even though I knew this was coming,I am utterly disappointed,appalled,enraged ,livid and fuming at the seams!
They had so much to work with here,where they could have, at the very least tried taking the u turn on Asad's character to at least attempt at trying to mend the broken pieces,if not together, but at least to the point where the cracks are more closed in to fit to the opposing pieces that had completely broken off by taking up this golden opportunity to give,if not heart felt , but a more significant,meaningful redemption at the very least to try make up for the horrendous,unacceptable form of violence shown.Instead, what do we get?
A pathetic,half baked attempt at a measly,muffled,under the breath sorry, which a big ego was holding back at the core along with a bitter mug of black coffee...which God only knows how it seemed to have done the trick and worked wonders on our leading lady who is the very soul reason of our stand... and bingo...we've got everone else going all ga ga,in La La land ooohing and aaahing away at this display of sheer ridicule!
Not even a sign of Guilt or remorse was on this man's face or body language or even a ounce of shame in his eyes.He couldn't even pinpoint his mistake here either by himself...hence Dilshad had to come in here as the catalyst again to open his veiled eyes and mind.Just wher was that inner turmoil,the turmoil and anguish of his conscience at the very thought of even physically hitting a woman like that?
Even the thought of him putting his mother's upbringing to shame wasn't even present.I for one sure didn't see any of that in today's so called episode of redemption!
What disheartened me further more wa sZoya's reaction at this lame excuse of an apology...instead of standing her ground,or putting Asad in his place she was making light of the situation by going into this uncalled for comedy mode...Seriouly dnt see what was the need for to chuck that in as it had no place at that given time,aiding ferther more to making the situation look like a total and utter joke!
Zoya had only days ago been physically and verbally abused by this man and this is the reaction we get from her!Now for me this is the first major sign of the assasination of the charcater of Zoya.No woman such as hersel,f who is self respectful and righteous would behave in this manner,which only forces me to rethink alot about her initial character skectch...respectful,courageous,outspoken,intelligent,simply diluted away to,silly,stupid,dumb or plain thick skinned.
They must really think that we are mugs to accept this bizzare load of bull that got chucked our way just for the heck of it.
Sorry guy's if I'm sounding like a broken record,repeating the same stuff but I am majorly peeved of today!
EDIT this thread has severy right to stay open so that we all, that stand against this redemption, can get the chance for our voices to be heard!
Edited by shaz2009 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Dude that was not redemption! whats with the whole 'mein sirf sorry kehnay aaya tha, sympathy lenay nahi!' - that was just ridiculing the very act of 'trying' to gain redemption coupled with a cup of coffee he prepared 'his' way not even her way!

I Just cant believe they are leaving it at that! It's wrong on so many levels!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Very well said and honestly was this the best they could do? I wonder if that could even be considered "redemption" he literally mumbled about the slap and most of the focus was on the "you don't deserve a mother" it was almost like the CV's were trying to underplay it. He didn't say anything that could be remotely considered apologetic about the slap. And what's worse Zoya was laughing literally 2 minutes later, like really? It's almost her trying to make him feel better as you also mentioned. What a shame! Was the slap even necessary when all he was gonna give her was his usual apologetic face and then finish it off with his rude words. As you said Qubool Nahi Hai!! And the CV's have readily moved on to the next issue on hand, since from what we have seen this wasn't one to begin with. A bitter cup of coffee and a half baked apology (sincere or not) was NOT enough.
Edited by AdhooriSi - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Yes I agree. Like before there's no redemption. What we got in the name of remorse is kinda abrupt and to be honest MITWA moment did not work with the situation at all. It was wasted.
I would much rather have Asad punishing himself for slapping Zoya and honestly I expected him to FEEL
for slapping her even before his moms clarifications. I wanted to see the turmoil between his feelings for her( its there and earlier it was shown quite clearly)and his duty for his family.I was not so bothered by the slap although it was horrible but I guessed it was another way of showing him to be an MCP and dark man. But I expected a better redemption and Z a little stern for a while. Nothing like that happened. Is this because he is going to hurt her even more or redemption is not something the PH ever consider showing us viewers. I know I want redemption and many others did too.
Edited by trina2010 - 12 years ago
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But since you've already made me come out of my non-thinking zone.

Asad was sorry because he hit her without a reason. Not because hitting someone is wrong.

Can it really get more pathetic than that?

That's a sure sign of physical abuse tendency.

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