Pointing Fingers? Double Standards Much? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Laila2009

Sounds like traumatic flashbacks for you there 😆 So far I don't see it.

Originally posted by: Rockerchic

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iske baare mai jitna kam kahenge utna behtar 😆

Originally posted by: -ForeverYours-

Oh sweet lord...! And now I'm supposed to get back to my work without shuddering every two seconds.

*Let the Famous 4Lions Flashbacks Begin*

Originally posted by: -ForeverYours-

Well thought out rebuttal, (do you have that love/hate relationship with debates too?) kind of busy will try to address the flaws soonish provided I have the time!

Originally posted by: Rockerchic

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iske baare mai jitna kam kahenge utna behtar 😆

Originally posted by: princessjojo

Awesome post Shweta!! But I disagree at least to a certain extent.

Let me start with a little background. Neither Asad nor Zoya is my golden boy/girl. I'm a fan of their jodi, that's it. Secondly, I never knew who KSG was till this show- so, while I'm impressed with him, I'm no KSG bhakht. I'm also mighty impressed with Surbhi.

Also I thought Asad was wrong in leaving Zoya behind without an internal battle. I was not impressed with the epiphany moment. He simply walked away while Dilawar gave him life lessons with an arm across with shoulder, telling him how he'll eventually get over this tragedy while Asad just listened on without enough emotional struggle and pleading. I did not want him to physically fight anyone off but I wanted him to have an internal battle. That particular scene/event in this story so far is a sore point for me. Realistic but not at all satisfactory.

Now coming to today, I still think Zoya is immature. So I guess I'm not a part of the gang that is constantly anti-Zoya or anti-Asad. When someone is at fault, he/she is at fault. She does not handle situations as best as one can. The girl just does not understand the gravity of her actions and that is a major turn off to me. I love the rest of her. I love her spirit, love her resilience, love her attitude, love her for always helping others out. I loved her scene with Maryam when she packed her clothes and money-I was in tears. It was the best scene for me. But I cannot love her for her immaturity and the 'sense of adventure'.

-It just does not matter to her that she has cost Asad to lose a business deal-she just doesn't get it that she might be causing financial loss to a guy who is supporting her lodging and food while she lives in his house without as much as cleaning her plate after each meal. Her goal is to get a sorry about of him without thinking of the implications.

-She says no in her wedding at the last minute. I'm a believer in better late than never. So she did well. But she simply does not accept the gravity of what she has done. She is constantly rationalizing and excusing herself with 'Mr. Khan, aap mere reasons nahi jaante'. Lol. Kaunse reasons?? You said a 'no' and contemplated running away even before you had any idea that these people are dangerous. The fact that they were actually dangerous and threatening only reinforced what you were contemplating- to run away. That rationalization, that blame-shifting is not attractive. (That does not change the fact that her reason to run away is none of Asad's business).

-She made a huge mistake by staying back at mangalpur. So if we really want to go to the seed of the drama, she has started it all. But for now let's leave it. Let's get back to the present and let's forget that Dilshaad was shot (because I think that the shooter is either from Razia/Mamu or from Firoz or from some unknown business rival Asad has and has no relation to Maryam). She has no right to keep Mariyam without informing Asad especially in light of the fact that they had just escaped not only death, but a brutal death. She is oblivious (or wants to be) to the fact that this is not NYC but India. She is culturally insensitive and she is too grown up to be excused for that. When she found Maryam in the front yard, she should mad an effort to find a more neutral solution than to simply and impulsively hide Maryam despite Asad warning her not to do so. Because, if after being buried alive, after being under the threat of swords and guns, after knowing how society works in parts of India, one still does not understand how serious these mangalpurians are, then I don't know what to say. Just like I expected Asad to have an internal battle or immediate epiphany about needing to save Zoya that day, the same way I expected Zoya to have at least some internal conflict, some guilt before hiding Maryam in the store room without a second thought to Asad's warnings earlier in the night. Life is about cost and benefit. Is the benefit of saving Maryam worth the cost of risking Asad, Najma and Dilshaad? I wished she had been shown to at least ruminate over this. The shooting may not have been by Dilawar's man, but the risk of such an incident by him was very real..even before Dilshaad brought Maryam beck.

Asad has his own set of faults. Not informing Dilshaad of the fiasco is his big one. If indeed the shooter is Dilawar's man, Zoya shares equal blame if not more in causing this drama.

Originally posted by: princessjojo

Awesome post Shweta!! But I disagree at least to a certain extent.

Let me start with a little background. Neither Asad nor Zoya is my golden boy/girl. I'm a fan of their jodi, that's it. Secondly, I never knew who KSG was till this show- so, while I'm impressed with him, I'm no KSG bhakht. I'm also mighty impressed with Surbhi.

Also I thought Asad was wrong in leaving Zoya behind without an internal battle. I was not impressed with the epiphany moment. He simply walked away while Dilawar gave him life lessons with an arm across with shoulder, telling him how he'll eventually get over this tragedy while Asad just listened on without enough emotional struggle and pleading. I did not want him to physically fight anyone off but I wanted him to have an internal battle. That particular scene/event in this story so far is a sore point for me. Realistic but not at all satisfactory.

Now coming to today, I still think Zoya is immature. So I guess I'm not a part of the gang that is constantly anti-Zoya or anti-Asad. When someone is at fault, he/she is at fault. She does not handle situations as best as one can. The girl just does not understand the gravity of her actions and that is a major turn off to me. I love the rest of her. I love her spirit, love her resilience, love her attitude, love her for always helping others out. I loved her scene with Maryam when she packed her clothes and money-I was in tears. It was the best scene for me. But I cannot love her for her immaturity and the 'sense of adventure'.

-It just does not matter to her that she has cost Asad to lose a business deal-she just doesn't get it that she might be causing financial loss to a guy who is supporting her lodging and food while she lives in his house without as much as cleaning her plate after each meal. Her goal is to get a sorry about of him without thinking of the implications.

-She says no in her wedding at the last minute. I'm a believer in better late than never. So she did well. But she simply does not accept the gravity of what she has done. She is constantly rationalizing and excusing herself with 'Mr. Khan, aap mere reasons nahi jaante'. Lol. Kaunse reasons?? You said a 'no' and contemplated running away even before you had any idea that these people are dangerous. The fact that they were actually dangerous and threatening only reinforced what you were contemplating- to run away. That rationalization, that blame-shifting is not attractive. (That does not change the fact that her reason to run away is none of Asad's business).

-She made a huge mistake by staying back at mangalpur. So if we really want to go to the seed of the drama, she has started it all. But for now let's leave it. Let's get back to the present and let's forget that Dilshaad was shot (because I think that the shooter is either from Razia/Mamu or from Firoz or from some unknown business rival Asad has and has no relation to Maryam). She has no right to keep Mariyam without informing Asad especially in light of the fact that they had just escaped not only death, but a brutal death. She is oblivious (or wants to be) to the fact that this is not NYC but India. She is culturally insensitive and she is too grown up to be excused for that. When she found Maryam in the front yard, she should mad an effort to find a more neutral solution than to simply and impulsively hide Maryam despite Asad warning her not to do so. Because, if after being buried alive, after being under the threat of swords and guns, after knowing how society works in parts of India, one still does not understand how serious these mangalpurians are, then I don't know what to say. Just like I expected Asad to have an internal battle or immediate epiphany about needing to save Zoya that day, the same way I expected Zoya to have at least some internal conflict, some guilt before hiding Maryam in the store room without a second thought to Asad's warnings earlier in the night. Life is about cost and benefit. Is the benefit of saving Maryam worth the cost of risking Asad, Najma and Dilshaad? I wished she had been shown to at least ruminate over this. The shooting may not have been by Dilawar's man, but the risk of such an incident by him was very real..even before Dilshaad brought Maryam beck.

Asad has his own set of faults. Not informing Dilshaad of the fiasco is his big one. If indeed the shooter is Dilawar's man, Zoya shares equal blame if not more in causing this drama.