Pointing Fingers? Double Standards Much? - Page 2

Originally posted by: -ForeverYours-

Lol! I'm glad you see my point but you let something slip: I never said he was wrong for not standing up and fighting in the forest. I said he was wrong for not having that moment of truth, that epiphany, that realization that he needs to save her earlier. I could care less if he acted upon it to be honest it's the feeling that mattered and the fact that he didn't feel that and realize it until much later is what I'm holding him guilty for.

LOL..Maybe he's just a slow guy 😆 ..takes him time to decipher all that..especially concerning Zoya because she's annoyed him enough and maybe for a moment he thought 'if she dies..I'll be at peace again' and then it hit him.. 'hang on..do I really want that peace?'.. 😆 it reminds me of the statement.. 'I don't really hate you..let's just say if you were burning in a fire and I had water, I'd drink it. In front of you.' Bet Asad felt like that when she was annoying him.. and vice versa..!!

Ohk.. jokes apart..but when they dragged him away he kept looking back at her didn't he? Maybe that was his realization? I thought it was.. and he was confused as to how he should act. So as soon as they dropped him off he ran back to her..

Brilliant post! 👏

Originally posted by: Sanaa629

LOL..Maybe he's just a slow guy 😆 ..takes him time to decipher all that..especially concerning Zoya because she's annoyed him enough and maybe for a moment he thought 'if she dies..I'll be at peace again' and then it hit him.. 'hang on..do I really want that peace?'.. 😆 it reminds me of the statement.. 'I don't really hate you..let's just say if you were burning in a fire and I had water, I'd drink it. In front of you.' Bet Asad felt like that when she was annoying him.. and vice versa..!!

Ohk.. jokes apart..but when they dragged him away he kept looking back at her didn't he? Maybe that was his realization? I thought it was.. and he was confused as to how he should act. So as soon as they dropped him off he ran back to her..

First - WORD.

Well if he had that sudden tube light moment I can't argue/debate with you here since I didn't watch that episode in great detail myself. I kept forwarding and skipping chunks because it was time consuming and the direction of the whole thing sucked..I mean if you look at it in reality.. he had five minutes before her organs quit responding and in that time he was successfully driven to the highway/bus stop whatever.. successfully ran back with few minutes to spare to look and cry for her until he got external help?? And that too from people whose son had been kidnapped?? Looked like time had taken a break for these people..

I know at the end of the day it's a TV series..and I'll accept it.. but this particular bit..entertaining as it was went over the top...Now if they had simply put a plastic sheet over her before covering her..it would give him much more time since she'd still have that bit of extra oxygen to breathe in.. but anyways..That's my rant over..

Originally posted by: Rockerchic

First - WORD.

Second - Res. Its late but i have a lot to say on this.

I hope against all hopes this forum doesnt become a hero obsessed fanbot zone.

Bas.

Originally posted by: Laila2009

I disagree with your post for several reasons.

First and foremost the actions of Asad at the time of Zoya's burial were brilliantly conveyed. To assume that he did not care or was unwilling to do something is a matter of perspective. A lot of us see that he did what he could do at the time and that he planned on rescuing her. He kept looking back - and in my view taking note...a lot of people on the forum discussed it at length with you but you are entitled to your view here.

Second, while Zoya does have a heart of gold and the viewers here do know that, she is not living in her own house - and the writers have shown her with that wisdom that she cannot overstep her boundaries for a good cause. That shows a mature but helpless person and Thursday's episode did convey it. Zoya did however, put the lives of the family in danger.

Asad did wrong by not telling his mother everything...but why didn't Zoya call Asad the moment Mariyam showed up at the house? How come she never said anything to Dilshaad? See, these things don't make her appear smart, they dumb her down and I don't like the way the writers show that goodness has to be presence in the absence of intelligence and good choices. And this is what the viewers were trying to express. I don't see them as disliking Zoya as a character, simply how she is being portrayed to them and they give good facts and points. So do understand where they are coming from.

Overall, I like Zoya as a character but if they continually dumb her down and I have several incidents that will show you what I mean, then she loses it with me. Also having studied martial arts, that was not karate I saw when she wrested with the guy. Still that was a brave move but it doesn't make me go WOW either. Plus, if you study martial arts, and the person gets away, you do not chase after them...what was she going to do - a citizen's arrest? The guy had a gun. That didn't impress me.

I'm reposting here coz I'm looking forward to replies..

Awesome post Shweta! But I disagree at least to a certain extent.

Let me start with a little background. Neither Asad nor Zoya is my golden boy/girl. I'm a fan of their jodi, that's it. Secondly, I never knew who KSG was till this show- so, while I'm impressed with him, I'm no KSG bhakht. I'm also mighty impressed with Surbhi.

Also I thought Asad was wrong in leaving Zoya behind without an internal battle. I was not impressed with the epiphany moment. He simply walked away while Dilawar gave him life lessons with an arm across with shoulder, telling him how he'll eventually get over this tragedy while Asad just listened on without enough emotional struggle and pleading. I did not want him to physically fight anyone off but I wanted him to have an internal battle. That particular scene/event in this story so far is a sore point for me. Realistic but not at all satisfactory.

Now coming to today, I still think Zoya is immature. So I guess I'm not a part of the gang that is constantly anti-Zoya or anti-Asad. When someone is at fault, he/she is at fault. She does not handle situations as best as one can. The girl just does not understand the gravity of her actions and that is a major turn off to me. I love the rest of her. I love her spirit, love her resilience, love her attitude, love her for always helping others out. I loved her scene with Maryam when she packed her clothes and money-I was in tears. It was the best scene for me. But I cannot love her for her immaturity and the 'sense of adventure'.

-It just does not matter to her that she has cost Asad to lose a business deal-she just doesn't get it that she might be causing financial loss to a guy who is supporting her lodging and food while she lives in his house without as much as cleaning her plate after each meal. Her goal is to get a sorry about of him without thinking of the implications.

-She says no in her wedding at the last minute. I'm a believer in better late than never. So she did well. But she simply does not accept the gravity of what she has done. She is constantly rationalizing and excusing herself with 'Mr. Khan, aap mere reasons nahi jaante'. Lol. Kaunse reasons?? You said a 'no' and contemplated running away even before you had any idea that these people are dangerous. The fact that they were actually dangerous and threatening only reinforced what you were contemplating- to run away. That rationalization, that blame-shifting is not attractive. (That does not change the fact that her reason to run away is none of Asad's business).

-She made a huge mistake by staying back at mangalpur. So if we really want to go to the seed of the drama, she has started it all. But for now let's leave it. Let's get back to the present and let's forget that Dilshaad was shot (because I think that the shooter is either from Razia/Mamu or from Firoz or from some unknown business rival Asad has and has no relation to Maryam). She has no right to keep Mariyam without informing Asad especially in light of the fact that they had just escaped not only death, but a brutal death. She is oblivious (or wants to be) to the fact that this is not NYC but India. She is culturally insensitive and she is too grown up to be excused for that. When she found Maryam in the front yard, she should mad an effort to find a more neutral solution than to simply and impulsively hide Maryam despite Asad warning her not to do so. Because, if after being buried alive, after being under the threat of swords and guns, after knowing how society works in parts of India, one still does not understand how serious these mangalpurians are, then I don't know what to say. Just like I expected Asad to have an internal battle or immediate epiphany about needing to save Zoya that day, the same way I expected Zoya to have at least some internal conflict, some guilt before hiding Maryam in the store room without a second thought to Asad's warnings earlier in the night. Life is about cost and benefit. Is the benefit of saving Maryam worth the cost of risking Asad, Najma and Dilshaad? I wished she had been shown to at least ruminate over this. The shooting may not have been by Dilawar's man, but the risk of such an incident by him was very real..even before Dilshaad brought Maryam beck.

Asad has his own set of faults. Not informing Dilshaad of the fiasco is his big one. If indeed the shooter is Dilawar's man, Zoya shares equal blame if not more in causing this drama.