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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

Yes Ria, I agree with you!
It seems that people in this forum are so biased towards Ansh because of his cuteness that they fail to see his failings or Aarti's faults as a parent, whereas they do not seem to like Payal or Palak that much because of the few times they acted out of line. Every misbehavior by Ansh is apparently okay, because "kids behave like that", but whenever Payal or Palak misbehave, it's suddenly a horrid thing and they are horrible children.😕 I don't get this bias...is it that we Indians, so used to living in a male-dominated society, tend to favor boys over girls even in TV shows, and forgive boys their mistakes more than girls? I hope that's not true, because Payal and Palak are no worse than Ansh.
It's true that Payal and Palak need to learn manners, but they do have discipline. Had they not been instigated against Aarti by Gayatri and Bua before the marriage, I think they would have been a lot friendlier towards their stepmom and stepbrother, but they feel insecure, and naturally when Ansh hurt their father, they felt defensive and angry. Any child would at that age. Heck, I probably would too if I was in their position. We saw from previous episodes that they are slowly warming up to Aarti because of her warm and loving manner, and it may take some time, but if Ansh also behaves right with them, I don't see any reason why they would act manner-less.
Anyway, I just want to make a point that if Ansh is not at fault for his misbehavior, then neither are PayPal. All three are children after all, even if PayPal may be a few years older.


You know, when one of my relatives had a baby a few months ago, someone told her that she needs to accept one thing: People are going to constantly tell you how to raise your child and criticize you for a variety of things... That's true and it's weird to see it happen with fictional characters as well.

Ansh is supposed to be around 5-6 years old, correct? There are kids these age who are reserved (like Payal and Palak) and there are kids these days who talk and play childish pranks (like Ansh). I don't see what exactly he's doing that is horrible.

I haven't seen any Payal/Palak bashing myself on this forum and they definitely don't deserve it. However it seems ridiculous to criticize Ansh for being a child. He's not even half as bad as the kids (and even adults in some cases) on other shows.

At least everyone is on the same page that Gayatri went too far with her punishment.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I think people get bit more angrier at Palak and Payal because their behavior comes as a reflection of Gayatri or Buvaji.. also being bit older Palak is more agressive as she thinks she needs to protect her sister from all. Also in absence of their mother they just picks up everything from other people and Gayatri more closer to them as they do not have mom they pick up her attitude

But what we forget here is that Payal and Palak are not so rude when they are away from Gayatri...
Like their behavior at the mall... They were pretty good with Aarti... Then at the wedding venue they made faces at Aarti during the Ganesh puja..
Also on the 1st day of the school aarti was able to help them with their dressing once uniforms were found..
But I think Palak and Payal behaves like this in front of Gayatri knowing Gayatri does not like Ansh or Aarti and to come in her grace or to make her happy naturally their behavior changes when she is around but they are too young to know this pattern..
and all like Ansh as he is talkative witty and Aarti is behind him so they forget his faults as they would feel to find fault with Ansh is to find fault with Aarti and people do not want to do that.. So Ansh becomes cute and Payal Palak vicious...
But they are all children and the way they behave reflects their upbrining or the behavior of their elders as children learn from watching what their parents do and not by what their parents say..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Its true that Ansh needs to be taught a little more strictly, but he's so young for god's sake! Locking him up in a room, not letting him go when he's hurt - thats disgusting. What kind of punishment is that for such a small baccha? Yes Ansh deserved to be punished. But that most certainly isnt the way! She would never punish Palak Payal like that if they ever behaved that way. If any of her own sons had behaved that way when they were young, I'm damn sure she wouldnt have done that to them. Then why Ansh? It's only because she is prejudiced against him. And to react on that prejudice and lock him up in a room, is just wrong. She got scared when Vidhi said that Papa S is coming home - she wouldnt have gotten so scared and let Ansh out that time, if she didnt know what she was doing was wrong. She knew her husband or even Yash would be mad at her - thats why she wanted to hide it from them.

I was furious when I saw that episode! It was just sooo wrong on sooo many levels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Eva, I feel it's total disgrace on woman's character (Aari) for allowing such injustice to Ansh and for Gayatri to perform such.. being silent is a severe form of abuse.


So learning from this horrible experience Aarti herself needs to be bit strict and teach her son what is the right behavior and attitude and how he should conduct himself in public so that no others can dare to teach or touch her son in anyway...

I disagree with the above, cause you don't have to be strict to succeed. Strict parenting can lead to anger, depression, bullying other kids, they become more rebellious, and it doesn't help the child to learn self-regulate.

It is said that I can concur the world with one hand, if my mother hold the other hand.

Edited by -Aarya- - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yes Helloaamir...
I woud totally agree with you. I was completely outraged watching that episode and Gayatri's treatment toward Ansh and Aarti..
If I was in Aarti's place I would either break the window and free my son as my MIL asked me not to open the door.. (trick her words) or rather call the locksmith and open the lock. I would not let my 5 year old son suffer in the darkroom till the evening.
Yes I would not mind it for 15-20 minutes till he says sorry and is ready to take punishment but locking him up without food and light no way...
I would not cry outside his door and then get terrified if he does not answer..
but these are Telly shows and they bring all these issues with more drama then what happens in reality..
Which mother would allow her 5 year old kid to be locked up to satisfy an ego of her mother in law... when the kid is screaming of being terrified of dark... of being injured and bleeding... nope I would not be that mother... I will rather take the punishment and insult myself then let my son suffer.
But they want to expose this happenings and things in a dramatic way they did this way.. but in reality it is not possible for a mother to let her child suffer thus..
Edited by evasumi - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Gayatri can punish him because he is her grandchild. However she shouldn't interfere when when the father or the mother of the child has already resolved the issue. Gayatri should only punish him when she is watching the children and they misbehave at THAT time.
She had no right to right to punish yesterday (?)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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well i am totally agree with TM ...gayatri was not right by punishing ansh on that way...but should be handled strictly..
ansh sometimes behave too annoyingly
but payal and palak never behaves such annoyingly..and they sometimes are rude with aarti but that's from a feeling of insecurity but did anyone notice when gayatri asked to take the icecream from aarti they took it..but i noticed whenever ansh is asked by arti to show some respect to elder he usually denies..and aarti have to make him convinced by pampering him...

sorry..i can't always justify ansh's misdeeds
Edited by aru_86 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: evasumi

Yes Helloaamir...

I woud totally agree with you. I was completely outraged watching that episode and Gayatri's treatment toward Ansh and Aarti..
If I was in Aarti's place I would either break the window and free my son as my MIL asked me not to open the door.. (trick her words) or rather call the locksmith and open the lock. I would not let my 5 year old son suffer in the darkroom till the evening.
Yes I would not mind it for 15-20 minutes till he says sorry and is ready to take punishment but locking him up without food and light no way...
I would not cry outside his door and then get terrified if he does not answer..
but these are Telly shows and they bring all these issues with more drama then what happens in reality..
Which mother would allow her 5 year old kid to be locked up to satisfy an ego of her mother in law... when the kid is screaming of being terrified of dark... of being injured and bleeding... nope I would not be that mother... I will rather take the punishment and insult myself then let my son suffer.
But they want to expose this happenings and things in a dramatic way they did this way.. but in reality it is not possible for a mother to let her child suffer thus..



I know! Aarti just sat there and cried - such a typical TV bahu thing to do. Not realistic at all - seriously. Which mother would just sit there and cry, even after she is not able to hear the voice of her baby anymore! She just sat there saying - I cant hear Ans's voice anymore he is not responding! Well do something about it!!! And she definitely should have stood up to her MIL. She should have said that was unacceptable. She should have told her FIL about it. Something so that cruel heartless woman would learn her lesson and not dare to do something like that in the future. You should be an obedient and respectful bahu but you have to maintain all of your relations. Motherhood is the most important relation of all. She broke that to be an obedient bahu. She better learn her lesson and get a backbone!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I think a lot of Artis inability to manage Ansh comes from the fact that she herself was an orphan. She's never lived with her parents let alone Grandparents and a joint family. Even with her first In-laws, they might have been indulgent towards her because of their guilt on how their son treated Arti plus Ansh being replacement for the son they disowned.

This is the first time that Arti and Ansh are both being exposed to a joint family and the discipline and responsibility it entails, not to say anything about putting others before yourself.

Arti has to learn from Vidhi about how a DIL is expected to behave in the family and from Paridhi on how to manage different people. But she needs to lean most that her son's constant demands on her time need to be limited now and he and she both need to adjust. She is as selfish as Ansh in putting her needs before the demands of family and Ansh in a way is taking her as a role model.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: aru_86

well i am totally agree with TM ...gayatri was not right by punishing ansh on that way...but should be handled strictly..
ansh sometimes behave too annoyingly
but payal and palak never behaves such annoyingly..and they sometimes are rude with aarti but that's from a feeling of insecurity but did anyone notice when gayatri asked to take the icecream from aarti they took it..but i noticed whenever ansh is asked by arti to show some respect to elder he usually denies..and aarti have to make him convinced by pampering him...

sorry..i can't always justify ansh's misdeeds

Yes Aru, I agree with you. Ansh is definitely cute, no doubt about that, but cuteness doesn't mean the child can be allowed to misbehave without being made to feel sorry. Payal and Palak's misbehavior arises from insecurity, but they are good kids at heart and so is Ansh, but Ansh needs to learn some discipline, no doubt about it. It can be done gradually and also lovingly, but he needs to learn discipline. However, I don't want Gayatri to teach him discipline because her methods are all wrong. I think Ansh would be more willing to learn from Aarti and/or Yash.
Payal and Palak also need to learn some manners, and this requires Yash to have a talk with them...which he hardly ever does.😕 Someone needs to teach the two girls that Aarti and Ansh are not evil, and as long as Gayatri and Bua are there in the house, that will be hard.

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