Who is responsible for Ansh punishment?...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Who is responsible for Ansh punishment?

Yesterday Ansh was punished by his step grand mother for being naughty and putting the pin on the sofa making Yash sick with high temprature and discomfort.

Let me tell you up front that I am not here to advocate Gayatri but want to discuss the reasons behind Gayatri's severe punishment to Ansh..

We have seen from the beginning that Ansh is very outspoken and bit stubborn kid. He has been raised by a single parent that is his mother aided by his paternal grandparents.

We also have seen on many occasions that he always speaks out of turn and speaks bluntly to anyone irrespective of their age. This shows of course his witty mind but also that he does not give proper respect to elders.

We have also seen that Aarti as a single parent has given her enough freedom to express his views but at the same time she did not teach him not to speak out of turn. She believes that children should be able to express their mind to anyone freely which is not always advisable.

We have always seen that when Ansh want something he becomes too stubborn up to the limit of irritation and takes the house upside down. Aarti who did not work and had all the free time in the world to attend her son always gave in and have him his ways surrendering to him all the time

Ansh was seen being stubborn with his food and made Aarti run all over the place with a plate in her hands

Ansh was also seen speaking out of turn at the 1st meeting with the new family especially with Gayatri. (That time Shobah had to tell him not to behave such a way)

Ansh was also seen being stubborn with Yash as he wanted to play with him right away with his new daddy. (He was being cute but usually children do not behave like that)

At home also he behaved as brat but the mother and the grandparents did not mind it may be thinking as he does not have a care of a father so he is entitled to little bit extra love and pampering

At the wedding venue also..

Ansh just ran away inside while they were being welcomed at the door and Aarti had to run after him.. and she being a bride.

When Gayatri came with the message from Pa Scindhia about the name changed Shobha and Aarti had to make her wait at the door cause their little prince said so.

During the wedding also he made lots of dhamal and was competing with girls for their father's attention.

During the Gruha pravesh also he made lots of disturbance and Aarti had to accommodate him in many rituals due to his stubbornness.

At the dining table also he made lots of disturbance and every one was annoyed with his techniques and he was absolutely rude with Pankaj when he was trying to appease his anger by pushing his hand away and breaking the glass and then on the scolding of Yash made face at Yash and ran away from the table...

At that point we all were so tired of that clanging noise Ansh made banging the table with the spoon. He wanted attention from all and he just kept on making that aweful noise. All were annoyed and his mother embarrassed at his behavior had to join her palms and ask forgiveness from all for his behavior...
His behavior with the girls to take over their room and pushed them to the floor and then try to put his weight around to take over their room and when he was chased out of the room all of them made a mess of the living room.. So he was held responsible for the mess as Payal and Palak never behave like that.

And every time Ansh misbehaved either Shobha or Aarti had to ask forgiveness for his behavior or have to tell him Ansh do not do that or Ansh did you mom taught you like that? ..

Pa Scindhia who usually tolerated his behavior was also displeased at the mess he made in the living room and at the havoc he created at the dining room and he put the pressure on Gayatri to take the control of the situation.

My point here is Gayatri is responsible for yesterday's incident but I would be bold and say that she is not entirely responsible... Somewhere down the line Aarti and the paternal grandparents are also responsible for the way they have raised Ansh.

Yes yesterday the grief and agony of Aarti made us angry at Gayatri but Gayatri was partially right with her verdict and partially right with her punishment...

Gayatri was not wrong in the aspect of teaching something to Ansh but she was totally wrong in her vicious attitude with the whole incident...

She let her prejudice of that little kid rule her emotions

She also let those two little girls instigate her in punishing Ansh

She let her suppressed anger for this kid overruled her judgment

She let her desire to rule over her DILs overwhelmed her and take out on Ansh

She let her insecurities get heavy on her

She let her prejudice of Aarti and Ansh ruled over her.

She should have ended the lock up when Ansh said that he is terrified and injured and he is sorry and he will do all what she said and should have let him out and make him do uthak baithak but she was stubborn for her own selfish motives and punished the boy beyond his limit.

When Aarti came and wanted to release her son she emotionally blackmailed her and let Ansh and Aarti suffer as she wanted to keep the stamp of her authority over her DILs

And she wanted to let Aarti feel the pain of her son's difficulties comparing the pranks of 5 years old kid to the sufferings of her 30 years old son where as her son has so graciously forgiven and dealt wisely with the whole incident but her vicious nature was not satisfied with no punishment and she wanted to take revenge on 5 year old kid.

Also after releasing him she did not leave her taunting and emotional blackmail up to the last moment and acted like a victim who is afraid to lose her son due to the manipulation of DIls..

So learning from this horrible experience Aarti herself needs to be bit strict and teach her son what is the right behavior and attitude and how he should conduct himself in public so that no others can dare to teach or touch her son in anyway...

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adigaag thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Alzheimers for me as of now...Yes Ansh is a brat but children's at this age are...that does not mean they should not be discplined which Aarti finally did by telling Ansh to apologise in front of every body...Aarti also has flaws in her style of parenting...Ansh will take time to learn...But my main concern is Gayatri here...If she has Alzheimers, then she needs to be treated soon...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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tho yash is naughty...he is just a kid...
he really doesnt dersves that sort of punishment ...
only thot of gayathri schindiya(difference between paylak and ansh ) ..is responsible...and she has an fear that ...arthi mite not concentrate..on paylak...becoz of ansh ...is also responsible..i guess🤔
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Gayatri said it best when she noticed that Aarti was wearing the heels because Ansh made her wear them.

"If you continuously pamper your children, they will make you dance to their tunes".

Even before they moved out of the house, Ansh was being loud and obnoxious simply because he did not get his way.

And people have quickly forgotten that Ansh also blackmailed Aarti into making Yash apologise to him for reprimanding him in front of everyone even though Ansh was the one who broke the glass and was constantly screaming.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Eva, brilliant analysis and I completely agree with you!
I will NEVER condone Gayatri for what she did and will never advocate child abuse for punishment, but it's true that Ansh needs to be dealt with more strictly. Gayatri went about it the wrong way for her own selfish, egoistical motives, but she did make a good point that Ansh needs to be punished for his mischief.
People keep saying kids are mischievous at that age, but where should we draw the line for mischief? Let me tell you guys right now that I have a younger brother who is five years old, the exact age of Ansh, and he is nowhere near as devilish as him. It's true that my brother has both a mother and father, and both of them have dealt with him strictly and lovingly since infanthood, but a child does not necessarily need both parents to turn out disciplined. Look at Payal and Palak. They may not be the best behaved children in the world, but they know not to disrespect elders. Payal may have stuck her tongue out at Aarti twice before the wedding, but that was out of insecurity and fear of a stepmother more than disprespect toward elders. On the other hand, Ansh blatantly insults Gayatri whenever he gets the chance, and Aarti hardly does anything except gently chide him.😕
I constantly compare Ansh with my own brother whenever I watch PV, and let me tell you that discipline is not wrong when it's done suitably. Locking up children in a room or abusing them is not discipline. Proper discipline helps the child realize that he or she should not repeat bad behavior again, because it is wrong...the child himself apologizes without being told to, because he feels bad. Ansh did not feel any remorse for creating a disturbance at the breakfast table, and both Aarti and Yash reinforced that superior quality of his by sweet talking him and gifting him. I'm not saying Yash shouldn't have given him a gift, but it should have been done out of love, not as a form of apology, because I honeslty did not think Yash did anything wrong by reprimanding him. Children should not be taught to be egoistic at such a young age, that they should not be reprimanded in front of everyone.
Anyway, YES Gayatri was wrong in locking up Ansh, but was she wrong in thinking that he should be punished? No. Aarti should be the one punishing him, because she is his mother and knows best how to teach him good behavior in a suitable manner, but she is not doing her duty in that. She has spoiled him far too much and this incident will not be the first in the serial if Aarti does not teach Ansh some manners soon.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Strange, but I don't think Ansh needs to be dealt with more strictly. Yes, he pulled the stunt with the pin. But he wasn't aware of the consequences. He meant it as a prank. Aarti is not lax at all, she just has a different style. And from where I stand, it doesn't seem to be any less effective then Scindya's choice of style.
Right now, it seems PayPal are in need of lessons more than Ansh.
I don't understand how being more 'strict' is going to solve behavioural problems. A child won't do anything wrong for fear of punishment, and if the threat of punishment is removed, what then? Like PayPal exhibits with their behaviour, no punishment = free reign to misbehave.

I don't mean to compare the children, its just that they represent the different parenting styles, so its a little difficult not to.
Edited by Charishma - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Eva I don't think Aarti should be held responsible anyways. She was raising with Dubey's, for whom Ansh is only ray of hope in their lives. Aarti has to cut slack on some parenting, in joint family mom doesn't get their way all the time that is a fact. Running around with food is most natural when we raise kids with inlaws.
Lets count when he misbehaved, let go of first day After all the hectic ceremony and mom not with him, first thing in the morning I think some reaction was natural. After first day he said sorry and understood his mistake.
Ansh is most behaved later, playing with plates and spoon afterward on dinner in natural for any kid, he was emersed in music they were creatingm as soon as he realize he is creating distraction he said sorry and behaved agin.
For pin episdode, he told his reasoning. Kids do that when they are insecure, sharing his only parent is hardest. He was wrong and obviously didn't understood the extent of his prank.
He has been on his best behavior since then and all credit goes to Aarti for making him understand where and what he did wrong. Strictness always doesn't work.
Aarti is already strict on him, she made him confess in front of all. She is making him go by bus, don't call dadi "Moti dadi", respect others and everytime he comes he is improved.
On the other hand, Payal Palak are always rude when Yash is not around. They instigate the fight today, tell me any four year old who when challenged by 5-6 year old kids will reject them. They are scared today that stem mom will scold but had no remorse for what they did.
We might have been upset by Ansh behavior for few episode but right now I see no fault in him.
I feel Aarti is teaching him every moment they are together. I feel Payal Palak need teaching they are more loud and devils.
I think he has pure heart just like any 4 year old.
Edited by bbbccc - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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No child deserves to be locked in a dark room full of junk where he/she can easily get hurt, especially for a prolonged amount of time.

I know there are people who are outraged by Ansh's behavior but I really don't think he's that bad. Sure he's blunt sometimes and loud but what do you expect from children? But I digress

What Ansh went through was a dose of child abuse. I don't know how it works in India but if this happened in the US, social services would definitely have intervened.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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aarti uses the authoratitive parenting style while gayathri wants to use the authoritarian...

gay3 was wrong for punishing him so severely because that could've traumatized him at such a young age.. and he did apologize so whats the big deal! bacha hi tho hai! if anything, yash has the right to punish him, not gay3.. my mom doesn't punish my cousin's (older or younger or babies) when they fight with me; instead it's up to me as to how i want to deal with them... because i'm old enough!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Charishma

Strange, but I don't think Ansh needs to be dealt with more strictly. Yes, he pulled the stunt with the pin. But he wasn't aware of the consequences. He meant it as a prank. Aarti is not lax at all, she just has a different style. And from where I stand, it doesn't seem to be any less effective then Scindya's choice of style.
Right now, it seems PayPal are in need of lessons more than Ansh.
I don't understand how being more 'strict' is going to solve behavioural problems. A child won't do anything wrong for fear of punishment, and if the threat of punishment is removed, what then? Like PayPal exhibits with their behaviour, no punishment = free reign to misbehave.

I don't mean to compare the children, its just that they represent the different parenting styles, so its a little difficult not to.

Children do require some punishment though. You're saying that one should never punish children, and that's also not right. I have taken developmental psychology and other such courses like that, and punishment is necessary in some cases while calm explanations are advised in others, but definitely punishment is required for a child's good upbringing.

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