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Posted: 13 years ago
@Indu: :) I love reading thoughtful reflections on the episodes, it's a pleasure! I'm so glad that these AU threads are moving so fast nowadays and we've barely started the show...To me, it feels like so much has happened already in such a short amount of time.
Excellent points/questions about Yash and Aarti's similarities in terms of the repercussions of their personal losses! It's natural that they would remember their former spouses, but the way they hold on to those memories makes me feel as though, like you said, they haven't found someone to truly fill that void in their lives. Aarti has a support in her mother (yeah, I'm going to keep calling Shobha her mother) but she doesn't have anyone to fully open her heart to so that she can heal...And she doesn't want to trust a man after what has happened to her, either. Yash is surrounded by a very, very thick fog of memories, and I think he doesn't even want to try stepping out of that fog - it's only when someone else jolts him out of his world that he responds to reality and his other relationships...it's like he's essentially a living corpse without Arpita, until his daughters come to him, and then he seems to come to life again. Even they can't fill the role of a healer and companion, though. The problem with both of our dear protagonists is their devotion to a person who has left them...
Your last 3 sentences are pure beauty! I love this silent bond that they have unknowingly created over time...it's like their relationship transcends time...they were meant to collide and be each other's balms and healers...
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Posted: 13 years ago
one good thing that's come out of the name change thing is that aarti and shobha have realised the true colours of mr and mrs scindia.. poor aarti... till now she was only worried about what kind of person yash is.. now i'm sur she has started wondering about the family too... i wonder if shobha too will start thinking about this...
also i have a feeling gayatri and surya pratap will try to send off ansh to boarding school since it seems to be a tradition there.. this is going to be a major point of discord between aarti and her in laws..
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Posted: 13 years ago
@ Gosh Borna, it might sound like you scratch my back and I scratch yours, but I love reading my thoughts woven in your sentences. There's such clarity. I am glad yours and my times entwine in this thread. It has been a pleasure interacting with you. I am not a night person, so my time in the thread will always start after the first 15+ pages๐Ÿ˜Š


<<The problem with both of our dear protagonists is their devotion to a person who has left them...>>

They both are loyal to a fault. They feel they are maligning their former partner's memory by giving so much as a thought to the present one. So when Arpita's mother says to Yash, "You'll forget Arpita in due course," he gives a start and his eyes pain some more. It's like, "Why is she saying that ? Am I giving out this impression? Can't they see how much I still love Arpita? Do my actions give wrong signals to others?" So he tries to justify. Aarti can't bring herself to tell Ansh that he has a papa now and still holds onto the now-redundant wedding card----till her mother comes to her rescue.
They are both in a uniquely abusive relationship with their ex-spouses, wherein they themselves are the judge, the jury, as well as the victims.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: kunataanya

one good thing that's come out of the name change thing is that aarti and shobha have realised the true colours of mr and mrs scindia.. poor aarti... till now she was only worried about what kind of person yash is.. now i'm sur she has started wondering about the family too... i wonder if shobha too will start thinking about this...
also i have a feeling gayatri and surya pratap will try to send off ansh to boarding school since it seems to be a tradition there.. this is going to be a major point of discord between aarti and her in laws..


Yes Kunataanya, the mask of falsity of the "mahaanta" persona was off today and the reality was exposed to the mother/daughter duo. I want to see Shobha and Aarti's interaction post marriage also...God knows Aarti will need her the most then

As for your second point, even if they try to pull off that stunt, they'll have to face Yash, who is very much aware how close Ansh is to his mother and how much the kiddo is looking out for his papa.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: InduG64

@ Gosh Borna, it might sound like you scratch my back and I scratch yours, but I love reading my thoughts woven in your sentences. There's such clarity. I am glad yours and my times entwine in this thread. It has been a pleasure interacting with you. I am not a night person, so my time in the thread will always start after the first 15+ pages๐Ÿ˜Š



<<The problem with both of our dear protagonists is their devotion to a person who has left them...>>

They both are loyal to a fault. They feel they are maligning their former partner's memory by giving so much as a thought to the present one. So when Arpita's mother says to Yash, "You'll forget Arpita in due course," he gives a start and his eyes pain some more. It's like, "Why is she saying that ? Am I giving out this impression? Can't they see how much I still love Arpita? Do my actions give wrong signals to others?" So he tries to justify. Aarti can't bring herself to tell Ansh that he has a papa now and still holds onto the now-redundant wedding card----till her mother comes to her rescue.
They are both in a uniquely abusive relationship with their ex-spouses, wherein they themselves are the judge, the jury, as well as the victims.

@Indu: Haha, perhaps it does seem like that, but I really feel the same way about your comments, Indu! ๐Ÿ˜† But hey, we're just carrying out an engaging and thought-provoking conversation...If I find a comment of interest that could be expanded upon, I can't help replying! And then I end up writing an essay, LOL.
Seriously though, there are so many people in this forum who articulate themselves so beautifully that it's difficult not to respond - and you're one of them...It's been great talking to you so far! Here's to many more analytical conversations in the future! *steals a glass and some of Prateek's shagun to "fake-drink"* Looking forward to them!
See, this entire loyalty issue is extremely interesting! When I watch all these Hindi films and shows, and even old Bengali films, love is portrayed in such a way that it seems like an eternal bond between two people...Most often, first love is what is depicted...And the lovers vow to love each other for eternity...Sometimes when a loved one dies or ends up marrying another person, the one who is left alone usually remains alone...Yash and Aarti are two such people who probably intended to remain alone like that. If we didn't know that they were the lead pair, would we be rooting for them as we are now? (That's a rather pointless question: I'd still say yes, probably) Maybe a better question to pose would be: Is it a crime to "move on"? That's naturally how many people would feel at first: as though they're being unfaithful to their first spouse or love. That's what we're seeing here with both Yash and Aarti although they express this feeling in different ways.
The desperation with which Yash speaks out against any hint of him moving on and extracting himself from the tight web of memories he has constructed always unsettles me a little. In the interaction with Arpita's mother, that desperation made me feel scared and sad for him at the same time...How is he ever going to let go? That was my initial thought. Maybe this is going to end up being analogous to trying to hold water or sand in your hands: the harder you try to hold on, the faster it seems to slip away.
Aarti, on the other hand, seems so numb at this point. If I said that Yash seems like a living corpse all the time, Aarti is also walking through these marriage rituals like a lifeless being. It's like all her energy has been drained due to the emotional strain ever since the news of the rishta reached her...It hurts to see her like this, honestly.
Gosh, we have two people who appear to be so different in temper and demeanor, but at the core, they're quite similar in certain respects. I have to applaud the entire PV team yet again, especially the director and Gurmeet and Kratika for bringing out all of these emotions in their portrayals of Yash and Aarti.
They're indeed victims and inflictors of that pain as well, even though it's all a subconscious process. The way you've described it is too good...
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: kunataanya

one good thing that's come out of the name change thing is that aarti and shobha have realised the true colours of mr and mrs scindia.. poor aarti... till now she was only worried about what kind of person yash is.. now i'm sur she has started wondering about the family too... i wonder if shobha too will start thinking about this...
also i have a feeling gayatri and surya pratap will try to send off ansh to boarding school since it seems to be a tradition there.. this is going to be a major point of discord between aarti and her in laws..

Wow, I didn't even think of the boarding school aspect! You're right about it being an issue of contention for Aarti and the Scindias, kunataanya...That's going to be another thing to watch out for: Ansh's ordeals in that household. The poor child is going to have to adjust to just as much as his mother, if not more.
Now that Aarti has actually heard and seen the sorts of things that her in-laws strive to uphold, I wonder how she's going to take it and how these things will affect her relationship (or lack thereof, for the time being) with Yash. Sooo many things to watch out for. All this is making my head spin.
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Posted: 13 years ago
@all guys grt analysis going on.
Keep it up.
I am loving it.
All ur superb discussions always makes my day.
Dis show is indeed getting successful day by day in gaining extreme reactions from d viewers.
Credit goes to d cv's.
Hats off to dem.
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Borna
<< Seriously though, there are so many people in this forum who articulate themselves so beautifully that it's difficult not to respond - and you're one of them...It's been great talking to you so far! Here's to many more analytical conversations in the future! *steals a glass and some of Prateek's shagun to "fake-drink"* Looking forward to them!>>

*Cheers to you too*
**And a bong same to you double toast* *
***And a triple toast to all the master analysers and word wizards of this thread***

"Three toasts Indu, isn't that too much together?" So what, after all I'm watching a show concerning three families, three brothers, three children, three bahus, three...Now I've had three too many๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜†


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Posted: 13 years ago
@Indu: LOL, Indu! That's hilarious! I love it. The number 3 holds a high regard in Indian culture, doesn't it? All these threes...and I could even make a crazy comment and say that Kratika's been saved (?) from having a triple identity crisis! First Smriti, then Aarti, and the latest...Arpita. Hahaha, the poor woman just can't get a break from all the Arpita-associations, it's hilarious. I've been watching my favorite offscreen Gurmeet-Kratika interviews and Gurmeet just keeps bringing "Arpita" into everything! He certainly understands his character as well as Kratika understands Aarti! ๐Ÿ˜† Ever since the freaking launch of the show! Oddly ironic, that...He was teasing Kratika about her onscreen name and asked, "Aarti? Arpita nahi?" to which she said, "Arpita aapki ex-wife ka naam hai." In retrospect, that's just a crazy coincidence unless the story had been planned out with details that far in advance and the actors knew about it (which I highly doubt). In these interviews about the bachelor's party, too, Arpita pops up again, courtesy Gurmeet and Kratika's reaction was too funny: "I swear...*gives him a look that says "I'm not convinced about this...Of all the excuses in the world, this one again?"*" ๐Ÿ˜†
Oh, those two crack me up...they laugh at themselves up AND they make each other laugh, too! Such good times, and what are we stuck with? Polar opposite moments in the actual episodes! Promo 4's relationship status has never looked more distant...
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Posted: 13 years ago
Indu and Borna very interesting discussion regarding Yash and Aarti's freedom of expression to decide things for themselves which seems will b possible only after marriage when finally they will b sharing one common room ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ...
I was saying the same thing last night that so far only others hv taken decisions for Yash and Aarti assuming thats the best for both but noone from Scindias or Dubeys really bothered to ask Yash or Aarti regarding their decisions or wishes ...
And Yash-Aarti so far r doing everything for other's happiness ..Yash getting married for his kids and family ka happiness ..Aarti getting married for Ansh and Shobha's happiness ...Yash attending bachelar party for his brothers ka happiness ... Aarti has no say in her own name-change tamasha since she is asked to keep quiet for Arpita's parents ka happiness ...Yash too has no say in it since Arpita's mom gave him the kasam
Its high time Yash and Aarti talk and take decision on their own because in future these two will hv to stay together ...its their life ..they hv the right to decide how they want to spend it ...๐Ÿ˜Š
One interesting point Borna made is how in films and TV Serials only first love is shown to b eternal and true lovers promise to live with each other forever and mayb thats why as a viewer we too r used to see such fairytale love stories of first time true love and so its actually difficult to accept few harsh facts shown in a remarriage when two people r giving chance to their life for the second time ...none of us really know how the feeling is when one is about to marry again keeping behind his/her first love and first marriage memories because none of us really experienced it in both fiction as well as real world ...๐Ÿ˜Š...
I hv seen posts being made questioning how can Yash be so stupid remembering only Arpita and cannot love Aarti ...why is he marrying then ... or questions like how can Aarti still dream about that Prashant ..why is she marrying then ... But not once we r actually putting ourselves in their place and then trying to imagine the situation ...Is it so easy for us to actually forget the first love and move on instantly๐Ÿค” ... we all know Yash and Aarti will eventually move on because the show is basically trying to prove this myth wrong that true love can happen only once or in life second chances dont work ...the purpose of the show is to project that true love can happen second time as well ...giving second chance to life is no sin especially when its destiny's wish๐Ÿ˜ƒ ...but the process of moving on from first phase of life to second phase is the most difficult step for a person and thats what the drama is trying to show by capturing every minute details of the complexities that one goes through in such situations ๐Ÿ˜ณ...

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