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Posted: 15 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

'Marraige is meant to be a beautiful bond which grows and evolves over time .'
That bond is EMOTIONAL AND SPIRITUAL ...........the one that you described . This emotional bond develops over a period of time only , that is exactly what I said in MY post too . And thats the reason I asked , what is this 'I need time' thing , is there any specific limitation to it , a time period to it , a date for it ? No ! The real fact is women like Pratigya and Varsha themselves have no answer for it coz they themselves don't know ! It is a very vague statement ...........I need more time , in which they expect a man to wait like a saint indefinetely for them , 'till they come around' and I find that grossly unfair as when a man gives this same treatment to a woman , she feels horribly insulted . Is the woman going to come around in two years ? I mean , AFTER the marraige takes place ? Or Five years ? Or Three years ? When does 'the time become right ' ? And if she needed Time and this was the answer she was going to give her husband after the marraige , why did she get married in the first place ? She shud have taken Allll the time BEFORE the marraige ! { am talking of a general woman here] . Once u give the commitment that means you are ready .
Infact even when a woman is 60 and her husband is 65 she finds that the bond is still evolving . The exploring each other is still there . That mystery never ends. But because the bond is still evolving , she has not procrastinated love making , having children , various levels of marraige . She is pragmatic enough to realise that the evolving involves all this too , you cannot seperate the two .
My POV purely . It is from a pragmatic POV that I talked .



In case of Pratigya - Krishna context, its only a day since the dark clouds over their marriage seemed to have subsided. So If you think that that she would say 1- 2 -3 - Go is not gonna happen. 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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men are from mars women from venus ...........did anyone read the book.?.........men women have diff perspectives ......to any given situation,they behave diff in an identical situation...................to give urself up be it husband or wife.......is something v special.............it's not an assignment that has to be completed in a time bound manner...................this is what separates us from other species..............
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Posted: 15 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: lighthousepier

Maahii,

Thanks for your thoughts. You are right Sex is not just about marriage and marriage is not just about sex. But a marriage without sex is like a teabag without tea leaves - you can add all the hot water, milk and sugar you want but it still comes out empty
QUOTE=-Maahii-]I respect yr opinion. However, I choose to disagree, simply because marriage is NOT just a certificate to allow consummation. - You bolded the wrong word - it is the JUST that you should have emphasized. There is a difference between a roommate and a spouse!
Marriage is meant to be a beautiful bond, which grows and evolves over time. - Relationships and feelings grow and evolve over time (and sometimes deteriorate over time - Prats better be careful because by the time she is in friendship/ in love/ in lust over Krish, he may be fed up with her). Marriage starts the day you take your vows and get married.
Light

Beautifully said Light ! Marraige starts the day you take your vows and get married ! This is precisely what I was saying all along !
It is all very well to say "it is Not just a certificate to allow consummation ' . Well , we heard what it is 'NOT" . But then what is it ? A certificate to procrastinate consummation indefinetely ? Of course its not about consummation alone , we are all adults here and we totally agree on it ...........our point is , consummation , emotions , the children that come later , the responsibilities all are a part of marraige and if one of these parts is constantly procrastinated the marraige starts failing ! For instance having children is a very personal decision but if a woman keeps telling a man NOT NOW , NOT NOW , I have my career to focus on etc , at a certain point he may get frustrated as he wants kids and may leave her ! Its the same with sex ! First I did not have with u coz I regarded u as my enemy , now I won't have with u coz I want u FIRST to become my Dost ! { Pratigya] And after the Dosti na ........I still need to 'understand u more' ! This is unlimited and never ending and seriously , I feel the man is the victim here . If this same treatment a man gives to a woman ..........for instance he tells her aFTER marraige ........Hey , lEts be friends ! I need time ha, to touch u or find u desirable ! U understand na darling ? The woman will EXPLODE and say what the hell , u think I am some toy ? I have my self respect , U think Im gonna wait indefinetely till YOU come around , U sick mcp ? Im GOING !😆😆😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: SAM2U



In case of Pratigya - Krishna context, its only a day since the dark clouds over their marriage seemed to have subsided. So If you think that that she would say 1- 2 -3 - Go is not gonna happen. 😆

My dear optimist
With your darling Pratigya it is NEVER gonna happen . She will always find some excuse NOT to have a 'real marraige ' . Today it is Dosti , by the time the Dosti ends it will be a second round of Nafrat . When that Nafrat ends it will Krishna's Education . Go get a degree for me , then you will be my layak and THEN we shall see about it , she will say . And So I say , I feel sorry for Krishna .😆😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: nisha2010

men are from mars women from venus ...........did anyone read the book.?.........men women have diff perspectives ......to any given situation,they behave diff in an identical situation...................to give urself up be it husband or wife.......is something v special.............it's not an assignment that has to be completed in a time bound manner...................this is what separates us from other species..............




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Posted: 15 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: nisha2010

men are from mars women from venus ...........did anyone read the book.?.........men women have diff perspectives ......to any given situation,they behave diff in an identical situation...................to give urself up be it husband or wife.......is something v special.............it's not an assignment that has to be completed in a time bound manner...................this is what separates us from other species..............

It is not an assignment to be completed in a time bound manner............then it is an assignment to be procrastinated indefinetely ?😆😆😆😆 No time frame , nothing , simply the rude answer , that currently I am not interested , Dunno when I will be , till then lets be friends ? And hey , I thought that LOGICAL THINKING also seperates us from other species ?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000


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do you think that basis of marriage is getting physical?...................you'll b surprised to know the times ppl have*** in a year................and is it if the wife needs time then husband will keep on approaching her..............any sensible person will back off........thats' what logical thinking............logic... 😉

and really if u get time read d book it's lovely............... 😃
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Posted: 15 years ago
#88

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

My dear optimist
With your darling Pratigya it is NEVER gonna happen . She will always find some excuse NOT to have a 'real marraige ' . Today it is Dosti , by the time the Dosti ends it will be a second round of Nafrat . When that Nafrat ends it will Krishna's Education . Go get a degree for me , then you will be my layak and THEN we shall see about it , she will say . And So I say , I feel sorry for Krishna .😆😆



My dear Sweety Kool,

You are showing to much of a Pessimism, Let me tell you what this means, from the Latin pessimus (worst), is a state of mind which negatively colours the perception of life. Value judgments may vary dramatically between individuals, even when judgments of fact are undisputed. The most common example of this phenomenon is the "Is the glass half empty or half full?" situation. The degree in which situations like these are evaluated as something good or something bad can be described in terms of one's optimism or pessimism respectively. Throughout history, the pessimistic disposition has had effects on all major areas of thinking.

Philosophical pessimism is the similar but not identical idea that life has a negative value, or that this world is as bad as it could possibly be. It has also been noted by many philosophers that pessimism is not a disposition as the term commonly connotes. Instead, it is a cogent philosophy that directly challenges the notion of progress and what may be considered the faith-based claims of optimism.

So we are debating the same thing with two different point of view. My POV is Strictly based upon the the story line of Pratigya, whereas your are mixing Kirya's situation with generalized perception of marriage and the process thereafter.

Nonetheless this thread has generated a lot of very good points for and against. So chill and see if Partigay takes several years or not to consummate her marriage.😍





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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: nisha2010




do you think that basis of marriage is getting physical?...................you'll b surprised to know the times ppl have*** in a year................and is it if the wife needs time then husband will keep on approaching her..............any sensible person will back off........thats' what logical thinking............logic... 😉

Really ? Well , what to say , I will store this bit of news in my mind , thank you for telling me the facts .😃
Of course it goes without saying that I don't agree with this explanation AT ALL . We must agree to disagree dear .And No I don't think the base of marraige is physical alone........thats NOT what this post is about . It is about the hypocrisy of certain women with so called feminist views . That when the same treatment is meted out to them , they feel insulted , their Atma Sammaaan receives a jolt .
I think we MUST agree to disagree dear .😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: nisha2010

men are from mars women from venus ...........did anyone read the book.?.........men women have diff perspectives ......to any given situation,they behave diff in an identical situation...................to give urself up be it husband or wife.......is something v special.............it's not an assignment that has to be completed in a time bound manner...................this is what separates us from other species..............

Nisha
to give urself up be it husband or wife - She became his wife the day she married him - the act of marriage, of making a commitment to another person before God is "taking on the assignment" (to use your analogy).
this is what separates us from other species - what seperates us from other species is our ability to reason (and apposable thumbs) our ability to make decisions and to make commitments - with that comes responsibility and accountability - to follow through on our decisions and to fulfill our commitments
If she doesn't want to/ is not ready to be his wife she should divorce him and if she is making the second decision (and commitment) to remain married to him she should be his wife. Otherwise she is reducing herself to being either a servant or a freeloader- and degrading both marriage and women
My POV
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