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birju4baby

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Posted: 15 years ago

#11

Once again I do not understand your take on Pratigya holding back right now ... and Woman wanting to hold back in general ...

I felt like applauding Krishna today for his BLUNT and INNOCENT questions. Why wud I marry u if I wanted just a friend .I have Chandu and Tunna. I wanted a WIFE .

Pratigya did not say let us just be friends... She said let us be friends first .. big difference .. just friends and friends first ... Offcourse Krishna wanted a wife ... but depends on intrepretation of wife .. A wife is not just for physical relations ... A wife is a friend,caretaker,confidant and so many more things ... and first step to get there is to start with friendship ... especially a relationship which started on such rocky note as Pratigya and Krishna

Those questions are oh so NOT stupid as I read somewhere else , they are very very real questions and Pratigya should indeed dwell on them . . He is uncomplicated , he knows what he wants .She is the one who makes things complicated

I agree Krishna is uncomplicated ... he is a man after all and he knows what he wants ...But sometimes uncomplicated thinking can lead to impulsive decision which is not good either.. like when he tried to force him on Pratigya ... ...Pratigya is educated and a thinker ...She analyzes and overanalyzes ..Most educated people do that ... she wants to get there one step at a time because maybe she really wanted to fall in love with Krishna before doing it .. You can call it complicated ... I call it thinking and using your brains ... SHe herself has confessed that she is not in love with Krishna right now .. but is willing to take steps towards it ..So many girls get married in India without being in love and gradually fall in love but their marriages are not like Pratigya-Krishna's marriage ... they have the support of all their families ... Most of the time their would be hubbys have not threatened or pushed them into marraige

My friend in the other forum said today nowdays it is the trend of serials to show girls marrying but not consummating their marraiges for a longggg time. I personally feel it is the Faaltu feminism trend...........meaning , feminism comprehended in a wrong way . These girls marry like lightning but after marraige start doing hazaar nakhras . The nakhras r

I need more time.

I am not yet ready .

Let us first be friends.

Let us understand each other in the 'real ' sense first .

These questions sound so deep , so modern , so much the IN THING nowdays. But I would like to point out that

Well I have not seen this trend anywhere .. Girls are as interested in physical relations as boys but again most girls who get married do not have their lives turned upside down like Pratigya's was ... I cannot see how a Girl who is forced into marriage(not Pratigya) can have ahappy relationship .. Cracks will show up if either party enter into physical part without any proper understanding

When the guy asks how much time do u exactly need , these girls have no answer to that .They themselves don't know. In reality , the 'right' time is actually when one fine day the girl feels like 'IT" .😆 That means its wholly on HER terms and conditions , when SHE is in the mood , and the man should have no say in the matter EVER . But it is amusing to note that these same girls , if asked to wait by a MAN in the same way after marraige , if the man tells them I am not ready yet , Lets wait , GET SO ROYALLY MIFFED that they run to maayka and file for a divorce coz their feminst genes flare up .
Again I dont know any such Girl who will run away to her Mayka and ask for a divorce because her hubby asked her wait(wait... not refuse) .. If a Guy wants more time to understand ... A Girl shud understand ... but then Guys are different than Girls .. To Guys consummation is no big thing .. For Girls it mean much more ... Girls are more sensitive,emotional and their EQ is way higher than boys ...
The bottom line is that most Girls who get married already have the stars in their eyes about their hubby ... and probably have much better viewpoint of their husband as compared to Pratigya and Krishna ... So they are already at trust level with their husbands ..which makes it easier for them to enter into a relationship
Now coming to Pratigya holding sex back from Nitin ... I dont think she would have done that .. Reason she already liked Nitin before marriage(Like most girls)... Nitin was what she wanted in a Guy .. educated , sophisticated ... Plus Nitin agreed to marriage even after he knew about Krishna's intentions ...

Pratigya is not a bulb that you can switch on or off .. I can totally understand her inhibhitions right now ... and to Krishna's credit ... he loves Pratigya so much he is willing to wait for it ... it sounds filmy but that is what make Krishna a real man .. that he gives respect to his wife's wishes ..

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 15 years ago

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birju4ever

The only part I agree with u in is Krishna loves her IMMENSELY indeed that even now he is waiting . The support of families that u talked of , now she has it .For whatever reasons both familes r currently NOt bickering . Everyone talks of her greatness and her thinking but i see an uncomplicated , simple man , puzzled by it all , waiting and waiting and waiting for her to come around . The first part I understand , She really HATED him , was under a big misunderstanding . But now what problem is there ? In Nitins case , kya woh usko jaanti thi ?Infact she had confided to Arushi ki he simply doesnt stir her on ANY emotional level . And honestly , after seeing Jagmohan's wifes ROOP in the hospital scene when riled , I am sure , this friendship thing wud have NOT been acceptable on any level by them , however educated they may be , had they found out Nitin was sleeping on a sofa till she was 'ready ' .

Purely My POV of course .

Also , Just as Pratigya is not a bulb that can be switched off or on , neither is Krishna that he shud be 'OFF " as a man till madam wills it .It goes both ways . In my opinion she shud file for divorce .

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birju4baby

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Posted: 15 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
birju4ever
actually ... it is not birju4ever .. it is birju4baby .. my favorite television couple

The only part I agree with u in is Krishna loves her IMMENSELY indeed that even now he is waiting . The support of families that u talked of , now she has it .For whatever reasons both familes r currently NOt bickering .
Not really .. Amma misbehaved her the moment she put her step in that house ... ANd she cannot just trust Sajjan Singh's on and off behaviour ... would you trust someone who changed 360 degre like Sajjan has ..

Everyone talks of her greatness and her thinking but i see an uncomplicated , simple man , puzzled by it all , waiting and waiting and waiting for her to come around . The first part I understand , She really HATED him , was under a big misunderstanding . But now what problem is there ? I
Now there is no misunderstanding .. she is willing to take the next step .. She cannot just jump into bed ..
what really shud have happened was Pratigya shud have told Krishna about her reasons of misunderstanding .. but then again that conversation could have gone either way ...and I am not writing this Serial..

n Nitins case , kya woh usko jaanti thi ?Infact she had confided to Arushi ki he simply doesnt stir her on ANY emotional level . And honestly , after seeing Jagmohan's wifes ROOP in the hospital scene when riled , I am sure , this friendship thing wud have NOT been acceptable on any level by them , however educated they may be , had they found out Nitin was sleeping on a sofa till she was 'ready ' .

Again Nitin sleeping on SOfa would not have happened because that would have been like a proper arranged marriage where a Girl already is on trust level with her husband .. SO many girls who get married cannot even spell love by the time their marriages are fixed and they are actually married ..

Purely My POV of course .

Also , Just as Pratigya is not a bulb that can be switched off or on , neither is Krishna that he shud be 'OFF " as a man till madam wills it .It goes both ways . In my opinion she shud file for divorce .

If Krishna is feeling so bad about being off .. maybe he should go and get divorce ... and get another one ... Krishna will very easily get divorce on this basis ..

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 15 years ago

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Originally posted by: birju4baby

If Krishna is feeling so bad about being off .. maybe he should go and get divorce ... and get another one ... Krishna will very easily get divorce on this basis .. The only problem being He loves her and WANts the marraige .........It is the one who Does Not Love at all and feels forced in the marraige that shud be the one filing for divorce .

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birju4baby

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Posted: 15 years ago

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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

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Sam

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Posted: 15 years ago

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Originally posted by: birju4baby

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 15 years ago

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well birju4baby and optimistji thats precisely my point ............Where I guess we fundamentally disagree .This One step at a time business .......we don't do it after marraige , it is before marraige .And In UP Bihar etc where such arrange marraiges r pulled off , these things hardly r there . If one really really believes in these things , it shud be shown on all levels but in that Jagmohan s case we see Pratigya going by the Indian standard book . For the life of me I cannot understand why she wud allow Nitin to touch her body just bcoz he is a very well mannered , polite guy [ I mean so are many guys in the university campus] . otherwise what she knew of Nitin , what big TRUST LEVEL was there ? Infact Dadi had once rightly pointed out that today they r acting maganimous [ about not minding about Krishna in the engagement] but later who knows they may fling this on our faces and make demands . Well we never got to see it but her words were words of experience . My point is this..........Do all this Before marraige , once the marraige is done , honestly , while doing it , remember that if the guy does it , one feels hurt as a woman .

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Sam

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Posted: 15 years ago

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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
well birju4baby and optimistji thats precisely my point ............Where I guess we fundamentally disagree .This One step at a time business .......we don't do it after marraige , it is before marraige .And In UP Bihar etc where such arrange marraiges r pulled off , these things hardly r there . If one really really believes in these things , it shud be shown on all levels but in that Jagmohan s case we see Pratigya going by the Indian standard book . For the life of me I cannot understand why she wud allow Nitin to touch her body just bcoz he is a very well mannered , polite guy [ I mean so are many guys in the university campus] . otherwise what she knew of Nitin , what big TRUST LEVEL was there ? Infact Dadi had once rightly pointed out that today they r acting maganimous [ about not minding about Krishna in the engagement] but later who knows they may fling this on our faces and make demands . Well we never got to see it but her words were words of experience . My point is this..........Do all this Before marraige , once the marraige is done , honestly , while doing it , remember that if the guy does it , one feels hurt as a woman .

Marriage with Nitin was totally a normal and typical Indian style of arranged marriage. Whereas the circumstances leading to Kirya's marriage was not. Her agreeing to marry kirshna was to rid her family from Krishna's daily harassment and off-course the misunderstanding created by Angad's kidnaping, beating Nitin resulting in further humiliation of her and her family played a major roll in agreeing to marry Kirshna.

But see when she found out about the facts not only she felt bad. Now she is trying to lead a normal married life with Krishna. If they continue on the same path, soon she will want herself to fulfill her Patni dharam.

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 15 years ago

#19

If u think so optimistji .

Me thinks she demands far too much . Forget Krishna , in reality , no guy , even educated will tolerate it .He will get fed up .It looks nice on TV thhough .😊

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damon_biteme

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Posted: 15 years ago

#20

It is really intresting to read both the point of views. I agree with Kools on one thing trust in a marriage takes time. Just because our parents have found us an educated, cultured and well mannered man doesn't mean that the level of trust is there. To trust someone you have to know some one and i really don't think in arranged marriage girls really know the groom. Most women who marry into arrange marriage consumate their marriage quite early not because they trust their husband at certain level but it is the most basic way of bonding.

I just wanted to ask one things why does she want to start with friendship? Does she want to know him. well she has been with him for quite sometime and she knows him. Trust him well that takes years. I can think of only one reason, she wants to the friendship because she is in a confused state of mind and as she mentioned it to her mum she doesn't have the reason she married him for. She doesn't know where to go from there but she knows she is married whether she likes it or not. So she is hoping buying time will get her used to the marraige and won't feel awkward around Krishna

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