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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sadhana_pr

Thanks for commenting😊. And no worries,firstly they were not 'my' words and secondly not everything is judged on right and wrong😛
Coming to ur post,wonderfully written👏. And very deep perspective. I am not speaking from personal experience of loss and I pray no one here is. Thus I can stick to the context of the show. I completely agree that everyone deserves to be happy and lead a normal life,but since when did our Arjun Rawte start belonging to the common category of 'everyone'😉. Jokes apart,everyone also deserves to have a life free of tragedies. Fate violated this right of his. And the cruelty of fate could violate the happiness right too. It is not the individual in question,it's his wicked destiny which prevents him from carrying on.
And secondly,I agree Roshini would want him to be happy,but if things were to go her way she would have never left him! So we can agree that her choices don't really have much of a say in Arjun's life,unfortunately. But even if she wants happiness for him,which gospel tells that it can be found only by replacing the relationship which was lost? I loved ur line that moving on does not really mean finding a new partner-for me Arjun would have moved on the day he finds not love but peace. With himself,with his life. And I too would not accuse him of betraying Roshini if he did find love. But assuming that his love for Roshini was not something which could not last a lifetime,I would find him to be loving two people at the same time. Not sure of what to call that😛


Honestly dear..I would have said the same thing few years back too..I don't know its the culture or mindset or simple bollywood movies 😆 fault that we tend to think like that...
If Roshini would have died in an accident, would you have said same thing too...
Roshini not leaving him..well that is destiny..her life was meant to be only that much...
Its not wrong when they say that dukh batane se kam hota hai..Its very true...Arjun havenot even shared his pain with anyone..not even with his best friend (becoz technically his bf is dealing with his own pain too). I am not saying him sharing his pain with everyone but we need that one person (any close friend) whom you can tell what you feeling at that time..
When he takes revenge from Sikander, do you think he will find peace..maybe or maybe not...
He needs a partner who can provide him "understanding" love or "patience" love, who can give him time ...who can understand this fact that there was someone in his life who is not replaceable yet make a new place for herself...Its easier said than done but a strong support is what Arjun or anyone needs at this point. I want to say hatts off to those people who accept someone knowing their past...Every human being including someone like "Arjun" can fall in love again if give time (which is biggest player here) and patience and that's how he can find happiness...
I know its getting too boring for you but I really liked your topic..thats why I could not stop myself from writing again..
Thanks for listening to my bakwaas..
take care 🤗
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Carrie-


So true!

I always wonder once Sikander is vanquished just how will Arjun get through each day? The reason for his existence is solely Sikander.Take him out the teflon coated Super Cop is just a shell of his former self.
Yes,when you are done trying to make someone pay for your loss,you begin to feel the magnitude of the loss. The tragedy will finally sink in..
I was sure they planned to kill him at the end of the series.But Mr Malhotra himself clarified that Arjun will not die.Then what?How?

I am completely in the dark about Shaleen's comments on Arjun's end!! What? where? when?.Thanks in advance😊

Methinks he will strive for the rest of his life to make sure no other Arjun is separated from his Roshni by any cretin like Sikander.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: laila1994

"You think your pain and your heartbreak are unprecedented in the history of the world, but then you read. It was books that taught me that the things that tormented me most were the very things that connected me with all the people who were alive, or who had ever been alive."
James Baldwin

"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone."
Rose Kennedy

Thanks dear😊. I was researching for a project and came across many lines which seem as if written just for Arjun. Feel free to share more!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@shaleenrocks. I am not bored at all,rather enjoying this😊. I try not to have rigid opinions and discussions such as this are not to prove my view,it is to form my view.
Coming to the first point-I would have said the same thing as long as Roshini's departure was by a force beyond their control. If it was a breakup or something...my views might change😉, I am not sure if it is the cultural influence speaking here coz I do not see any moral contradiction here. It is more of a conceptual issue. I may be an idealist in assuming that some relationships fulfill you in all aspects such that there is no room to make a new place. But yes,wanting to be a support for someone is not wrong. When you have someone walking beside you,your battle becomes easy. But when you have none beside you,yet your feet move,your battle becomes great..And the strength of your soul can see you through it.
And now I find myself to be quite a sadist!😛 As for me,half the appeal of Arjun as a character would disappear the day normalcy returns to his life.As he being a lone warrior makes him rise above everyone else,the eyes burning with unspeakable pain was what caught most of our attention.. The last visuals on the beach from the first episode was symbolic of this. The rest of ETF standing with confusion and compassion while Arjun walks past them. He had a purpose even if he did not have a destination. And he walked it all alone.
Thus, for me the day Arjun finds solace in someone,shares his pain with someone,'moves on',he will cease to be Arjun. Because,Arjun Rawte is not living in the past,he is the past! So I would be happy for him if he gets over it,but that would also be the end of the Arjun I recognize.
Edited by Sadhana_pr - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Edited by -Carrie- - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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So TRUE.
Everyone says we understand ur pain and all that. But actually noone does. Cause to understand that they have to in his or her situation.
And we easily advice people to move on. But if it was that much easy to move on than he or she would have already moved on. U don't have to advice that.
Jispe bithti hai sirf wohi janta hai.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sadhana_pr

@shaleenrocks. I am not bored at all,rather enjoying this😊. I try not to have rigid opinions and discussions such as this are not to prove my view,it is to form my view.
Coming to the first point-I would have said the same thing as long as Roshini's departure was by a force beyond their control. If it was a breakup or something...my views might change😉, I am not sure if it is the cultural influence speaking here coz I do not see any moral contradiction here. It is more of a conceptual issue. I may be an idealist in assuming that some relationships fulfill you in all aspects such that there is no room to make a new place. But yes,wanting to be a support for someone is not wrong. When you have someone walking beside you,your battle becomes easy. But when you have none beside you,yet your feet move,your battle becomes great..And the strength of your soul can see you through it.
And now I find myself to be quite a sadist!😛 As for me,half the appeal of Arjun as a character would disappear the day normalcy returns to his life.As he being a lone warrior makes him rise above everyone else,the eyes burning with unspeakable pain was what caught most of our attention.. The last visuals on the beach from the first episode was symbolic of this. The rest of ETF standing with confusion and compassion while Arjun walks past them. He had a purpose even if he did not have a destination. And he walked it all alone.
Thus, for me the day Arjun finds solace in someone,shares his pain with someone,'moves on',he will cease to be Arjun. Because,Arjun Rawte is not living in the past,he is the past! So I would be happy for him if he gets over it,but that would also be the end of the Arjun I recognize.



Yes i have fallen in love with same Arjun as you...your lines "last visuals..." awesome 👏
I guess we were talking from two different presceptives..me more towards real and u more towards reel...
Reel arjun: if Arjun dies at the end of series (even i would hate it and maybe cry) ...but will i consider injusticitable ending...no he fulfilled his mission and he is gone...
Real arjun: if I would have bren riya/sakshi i will provide him immense care, affection and love and try to pull him out the deep shell that he will go into after Sikander is dead..
Trust me reality is stranger and completely different than fiction..
Some things that we see in fiction, we might not be able to apply in reality..
Recently i got to know about someone...they had been married for 8 months and husband died due to heartattack one day in office..the wife had not even taken chuda(red bangles) that punjabis wear at wedding that symbolizes newly weds when husband died..
She is not moving on right now but later somewhere down the line if decides to, was her relationship not fulfilling or at that young age she have to bear punishment of being alone..
Isolation is curse my friend..its biggest punishment..u maybe be able to cope ur sorrow alone and u become great...it might happen in fiction and sounds great but in reality..there is no worse feeling than being alone when u lose someone..u know what kind of thoughts u get...at one point u feel u have nothing left in life..its very depressing..u thank that one person through out ur life who pulled u out of that hole by listening to u or standing for u at that time, be it a friend...somewhere down the line u moght need someone who can be ur companion...
Finally in the reel world, i will agree to all ur points but in real world i will still stick to mine...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: shaleenrocks



Yes i have fallen in love with same Arjun as you...your lines "last visuals..." awesome 👏
I guess we were talking from two different presceptives..me more towards real and u more towards reel...
Reel arjun: if Arjun dies at the end of series (even i would hate it and maybe cry) ...but will i consider injusticitable ending...no he fulfilled his mission and he is gone...
Real arjun: if I would have bren riya/sakshi i will provide him immense care, affection and love and try to pull him out the deep shell that he will go into after Sikander is dead..
Trust me reality is stranger and completely different than fiction..
Some things that we see in fiction, we might not be able to apply in reality..
Recently i got to know about someone...they had been married for 8 months and husband died due to heartattack one day in office..the wife had not even taken chuda(red bangles) that punjabis wear at wedding..
She is not moving on right now but later somewhere down the line if decides to, was her relationship not fulfilling or at that young age she have to bear punishment of being alone..
Isolation is curse my friend..its biggest punishment..u maybe be able to cope ur sorrow alone and u become great...it might happen in fiction and sounds great but in reality..there is no worse feeling than being alone when u lose someone..u know what kind of thoughts u get...at one point u feel u have nothing left in life..its very depressing..u thank that one person through out ur life who pulled u out of that hole by listening to u or standing for u at that time, be it a friend...
Finally in the reel world, i will agree to all ur points but in real world i will still stick to mine...


Bang on! I was absolutely talking about the reel world-specifically Arjun's world. Would never open my mouth to pass judgments on real people in their real world. Who am I to do so?😉
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Posted: 12 years ago
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A friend shared this Batman quote,and as it has been happening lately- Acp Arjun Rawte was all that came to my mind😛


" You can't fight fate, and you can't survive alone... I can't help but notice that almost seems like a definition of who I am... A person who's trying to do both."
Edited by Sadhana_pr - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sadhana_pr

A friend shared this Batman quote,and as it has been happening lately- Acp Arjun Rawte was all that came to my mind😛



" You can't fight fate, and you can't survive alone... I can't help but notice that almost seems like a definition of who I am... A person who's trying to do both."


you are right!!!!
Arjun Rawte is all that comes to mind when I read this quote!!
Fate has it's own way of laying things out for us...and the worst part is we never know
what's going to happen! and you can't fight fate as the quote says...and neither can you survive on your own. Doing both things at the same time...who better that Arjun Rawte himself.
It's a great quote... thanks for sharing!
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