Gul Khan, what are you playing at?

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Any of you guys read Twilight? Liked it? I'm sorry I didn't. I thought Bella was crazy in New Moon! I mean it's fine when you can't get over someone who means so much to you, but commit suicide just to have a vision of them? Something definitely went wrong there. And what did Stephanie Meyer say?

It's a book for the teenage audience.

Is that what she wants to teach the teenage audience?

Another book that I grudgingly admit I read because of the hype, 50 Shades of Grey. Put aside the sex, Grey tortured Anastasia! Yes, he loved her, but I kept wondering why on earth she stuck it out with him! Was she some sort of masochist? I couldn't believe her! Well, at least THIS book was aimed for adult women. But Women nonetheless.

From brilliant pieces of literature about feminism, Jane Eyre, Pride and Prejudice, Emma, Harry Potter (to some extent) how did we end up with stuff that promotes girls/women to curl up and die if something goes wrong, or accept all sorts of torture just because they love a man?!

So what does this have to do with Qubool Hai?

I'm not calling Asad Christian Grey. Hell no! Or Edward for that matter! It's just an observation of how these books (and Mills&Boons stuff) have actually inspired people to make stories about tortured souls who mess with the only girls that love them. And the girls, because there's this 'unexplainable pull', cannot let go even for their own sanity. Am I the only one thinking that after coming so far in feminism, people are starting to backtrack?

So my message for Gul, or CVs of Qubool Hai. (I really would like to email this to her, it's a genuine question) Who is your audience? Teenagers and young women, mostly. What are you showing them? That a guy can hurt a girl as much as he wants, (and I'm not talking about the slap, because I agree, that was an emotional, in the moment thing) humiliate her in front of everyone, shout at her, blame her for everything, but the moment he says 'sorry' she should let it go? Fine, maybe she should. But what if he keeps repeating the same mistake? She should just quietly stand by and watch? The moment he says 'I love you' and takes you on a date, everything is fine? And Zoya, someone from New York City, accepting all this silently? Girls should silently accept the torture that's inflicted upon them?

My 16 year old cousin sister gushed to me over Skype telling me 'Oh, he's taking her on date? So romantic na? I would pakka forgive him.'

My reaction:...

Her: what?

Me: So if a guy treats you like Asad treated Zoya, and then takes you on a date to make it up to you, you'll forgive him?

Her: Yeah, I guess so why not? I mean, he's sorry.

Me: *Thinking to myself* When I get back, I will make sure she never sets her eyes on that show!

I am honest! Is THIS the kind of effect this show is having on teenage girls? Maybe it's just my cousin, she's bonkers anyway šŸ˜†. The thought even then scared me! That girls around the world are accepting to being mistreated over and over again, as long as the one they love showers them with 'gifts'. But do they end up having that emotional security at the end of the day? No. Do they end up having a proper relationship? No. Who's the one that gets hurt? Them.

I mean Qubool hai has reached such peaks, and is that the message you want to give your girl fans? That being treated unfairly is normal? I'm sorry. I adore KSG, and think he's a brilliant actor. But if this is what you portray on the show, I'm not going to be a hypocrite and recommend the show to people, when I will never recommend Twilight or 50 Shades of Grey solely because of their story. In fact, if Zoya keeps putting with Asad's shenanigans, Gul might just lose out on a lot of viewers instead.

So please, CVs, think before you direct future episodes. Where is it going? What effect it's having on people? Please, don't join the trend in taking the world back to the early 19th century.

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Jahapana6packs thumbnail
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I see where u are coming from but then again its called fictional for a reason dont u think?
If people take these shows so seriously and start implementing in real life then they should pretty much not make anything for entertainment. Like... No human can fly so showing superman fly might affect childern who love superman coz they might think they can fly and attempt it :/ ? So whose fault will it be here? Defo not the makers of SM.
Idk if I make sense or not but if people take these so seriously then I think they should do something abt it rather then saying to stop making these to makers.. NOT coz I love watching asad being a prat to zoya . Such a bas***d he is!! but ya so not for that reason, its coz saying this to anyone is not gonna change anything Coz All entertainment world shows something or the other thats wrong now they cant change all can they?
thats why I say people should Not take drams seriously esp Indian dramas!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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BRAVO! šŸ‘

You got the point across!

Well written, and I fully agree with you!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Okay im a girl too and i dunno why but i hv a serrriooous problem with feminists and all this feminism...these days things hv bcm MUCH better for woman...woman hv sooo many rights..they jus need to reach out for them..but we jus dnt seem to be crying now do we?? I mean im pissed off with asad too..but lemme ask u if u luvd smbdy wud u actually let smthing cm in btw u..once u see smbdy regret for it or be sorry or wish he hadnt done it...i mean i agree he jus keeps on running in circles...but thts jus 1 flaw...theres so many things he luvs in her too...or does to make her happy...all in all im pissed with wht the cvs r doing too..but i think bringing the feminist out into u wnt do u any good itll jus frustrate u
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jahapana6packs

I see where u are coming from but then again its called fictional for a reason dont u think?
If people take these shows so seriously and start implementing in real life then they should pretty much not make anything for entertainment. Like... No human can fly so showing superman fly might affect childern who love superman coz they might think they can fly and attempt it :/ ? So whose fault will it be here? Defo not the makers of SM.
Idk if I make sense or not but if people take these so seriously then I think they should do something abt it rather then saying to stop making these to makers.. NOT coz I love watching asad being a prat to zoya . Such a bas***d he is!! but ya so not for that reason, its coz saying this to anyone is not gonna change anything Coz All entertainment world shows something or the other thats wrong now they cant change all can they?
thats why I say people should Not take drams seriously esp Indian dramas!



Media has a HUGE impact, and when the audience is young the impact is greater because younger minds have greater plasticity! And although, I agree its fictional and its all in good fun... but you cannot ignore the impact it has. It may not have an impact on you, me or any one person... but collectively it does. And honestly, if Gul is making a popular show like this... why not encourage a progressive thinking society where women are equally as strong. Women in the past have struggled to get here and now we take it for granted.

Please don't take this personal in anyway... I just have an opinion.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Can I please stand up and applaud!

Sensible post. I completely agree with you. I had written somewhere else that Gul Khan's heroes seem to be chronic abusers - emotional, psychological and physical and its frightening how the women forgive them so easily!

And her men never really go down the redemption path other than maybe a sorry or two. There is no guilt, no self loathing for the way they treat their women. Arnav was a sterling example and now Asad is as bad!

And the worst is that all it takes is a smile and a few words of love and the woman is back to be tortured and abused once again :-(

The scary part is that television and movies do impact audiences and shape and influence impressionable minds. Why do you think they are used for directing public opinion?

I remember a serial called Shaktiman that came in for a lot of criticism cos a small child jumped out of the window trying to fly like Shaktiman. So reel life, unfortunately does impact real life.. and there enough young women who will believe that as long as the guy is good looking and offers a few words of love every now and then, its ok to get manhandled and abused.

In fact with some convoluted logic may just find the manhandling macho and attractive,, sic...

This is the 21st century, I am sure we can find storylines that are not so retrograde or at least which do not show women eager to put up any and everything in the name of love.

Its insulting to women to assume that their brains, sense of self worth and self preservation goes for a hike when they fall in love! SO much for Star's "NAYI SOCH'! :-))
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Posted: 12 years ago
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gul khan's almost every show is like this.. she always always shows women getting abused by the male lead either physically or emotionally.. and all the attention is given to the male lead.. the female lead always become the sacrificial lamb.. the female lead never gets the justice to the torture she had to suffer from the villians in the show.. gul is woman, and she is showing woman being treated like a doormat... i cant believe she never changes.. she always take the same route...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jahapana6packs

I see where u are coming from but then again its called fictional for a reason dont u think?
If people take these shows so seriously and start implementing in real life then they should pretty much not make anything for entertainment. Like... No human can fly so showing superman fly might affect childern who love superman coz they might think they can fly and attempt it :/ ? So whose fault will it be here? Defo not the makers of SM.
Idk if I make sense or not but if people take these so seriously then I think they should do something abt it rather then saying to stop making these to makers.. NOT coz I love watching asad being a prat to zoya . Such a bas***d he is!! but ya so not for that reason, its coz saying this to anyone is not gonna change anything Coz All entertainment world shows something or the other thats wrong now they cant change all can they?
thats why I say people should Not take drams seriously esp Indian dramas!



It's called fictional for a reason, I agree. But media, shows like these, books, everything has an impact on people's mind! And showing Superman flying.. children know it's impossible. But the fact that a guy treats a girl like Asad treats Zoya isn't! It happens! While teenagers are dating.. girls get put through tonnes of shit sometimes!! And especially after watching stuff like this.. I guarantee you that girls WILL end up thinking it's alright to be treated like that.. simply because they don't get to see her stand up for herself..!!

People shouldn't take these dramas seriously. But subconciously or conciously, they do. They try relating to the main character. Always.. hence we get so attached to a book, or show.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Totally agree with you.
It does have a bad impact.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: StonerGirL

Okay im a girl too and i dunno why but i hv a serrriooous problem with feminists and all this feminism...these days things hv bcm MUCH better for woman...woman hv sooo many rights..they jus need to reach out for them..but we jus dnt seem to be crying now do we?? I mean im pissed off with asad too..but lemme ask u if u luvd smbdy wud u actually let smthing cm in btw u..once u see smbdy regret for it or be sorry or wish he hadnt done it...i mean i agree he jus keeps on running in circles...but thts jus 1 flaw...theres so many things he luvs in her too...or does to make her happy...all in all im pissed with wht the cvs r doing too..but i think bringing the feminist out into u wnt do u any good itll jus frustrate u



Yes, I agree. Asad has done a lot for Zoya. But the fact that he apologizes and repeats the same mistake again, the way he emotionally tortures her, the way he doesn't even BOTHER to listen to her, the way he can easily see cause tears in her eyes.. overrides any thing nice he's done for her.

If I loved somebody, I'd make excuses, true. But, when he doesn't mend his ways, how much should I kill my self respect just to stand up for him?

And yes, women have many rights in the world. But the media is still hell bent on portraying them as the victims. And we are! Women, just because of their lack of physical strength, are victims in some cases. But in this one, it's about the emotional trauma he keeps putting her through which she keeps accepting! That's what's getting to me.

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