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Posted: 12 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: chicksoup

Dear Rocker,

Thanks for the reassurance. I am a huge Gul fan too.🤗

May I present my counterpoints.

Every second person who tries to commit suicide has at least attempted it once before. Meaning when you attempt once you're likely to attempt again. :

50-50 that Humeira might attempt it again. What would be her motive if so? She has already made the decision to let Ayan go- andf nothing is going to affect her more than this. So, I really don't expect her to go that route. In fact, I want her to grow stronger as a person with this experience behind her.😊

Rape can never be regarded as anything less than soul scarring. It's commonality does not reduce it's impact.

The commonality does not reduce the impact- that is why Mariam wanted to commit suicide. She did not want to live the rest of her life with her rapist- that in itself is a good message- SHE WANTED TO FIGHT THE SYSTEM- she was proving a point by taking her life (though I don't approve of her methods at all.)

Actually, I think Gul kind of highlighted this with Humeira's track- she almost got molested and yes, the reason was she had been foolish and unsuspecting- the message was clear- be careful about social networking. Gul might not repeat a similar message, I feel. I doubt if it will be about Mariam getting justice and Zoya or Asad delivering it for her.

If this was going to be a romantic comedy then Mrs Gul should not have bitten off more than she can chew:

Do tell me if you have watched Gul's first iconic show- the one which was aired on the channel that closed down. This is the exact comment I hear from fans of that show- and well, Gul did disappoint them. (And I keep wondering why they expected that in a rom com.)

I am not trying to prove myself right- just asking you to keep your expectations from a romantic comedy a little less, lest you feel cheated at the end of it.🤗


I apologise in advance chicksoup, but I am genuinely confused... Is QH a 'romantic comedy'? I believed it was a social and family drama. It was pitched as such. Moreover, not to offend anyone but the show is at times way too disturbing, intense and hard-hitting for it to qualify as a romantic comedy. I believe that the makers need to make this point clear so many of us stop having expectations from the show and move on to other pastures. I for one, am not watching an Indian romantic comedy, based on a Muslim family that is replete with misogyny. It does not even make any sense 😕

P.S. Just to make my allegiance clear, I am no one's fan 😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: Aalia_A


I apologise in advance chicksoup, but I am genuinely confused... Is QH a 'romantic comedy'? I believed it was a social and family drama. It was pitched as such. Moreover, not to offend anyone but the show is at times way too disturbing, intense and hard-hitting for it to qualify as a romantic comedy. I believe that the makers need to make this point clear so many of us stop having expectations from the show and move on to other pastures. I for one, am not watching an Indian romantic comedy, based on a Muslim family that is replete with misogyny. It does not even make any sense 😕

P.S. Just to make my allegiance clear, I am no one's fan 😳


aalia good question..
dont want to compare .. but if you see in BV every damn serious issue will be given a closure with the story to the point what its required .. not like jumping on touching every damn issue and leaving it like that by ending it with some comedy here and there .. this is one of the few bad points with Gul's CVs.. and QH is definitely not a romcom .. its a social drama i guess . ( not sure about its genre ) ..

I guess TM made it clear that GUL if is willing to touch those issues should handle it as it should be and give it a proper closure.. this was only for GUL ( as we already knew her expertise in this particular things ) ..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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aalia good question..
dont want to compare .. but if you see in BV every damn serious issue will be given a closure with the story to the point what its required .. not like jumping on touching every damn issue and leaving it like that by ending it with some comedy here and there .. this is one of the few bad points with Gul's CVs.. and QH is definitely not a romcom .. its a social drama i guess . ( not sure about its genre ) ..

I guess TM made it clear that GUL if is willing to touch those issues should handle it as it should be and give it a proper closure.. this was only for GUL ( as we already knew her expertise in this particular things ) ..


Hey thanks for replying. Well I am not acquainted with Gul's previous shows or her creative style, I dunno if that's a blessing or a curse 😳

I guess what irks me most is senseless comedy thrown in straight after mind-blowing serious tracks. As a viewer it really puts me off. I have been watching QH on and off for a few days since the only character I could kinda relate to in the show - Zoya - has had her credibility put through the grinder recently. I would maintain that romance is a major track for the show but not the whole show and that is why other factors too need to be paid as much attention to as the romance track. That is why Rockerchic's thread struck a chord with me. Cheers.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: Aalia_A


Hey thanks for replying. Well I am not acquainted with Gul's previous shows or her creative style, I dunno if that's a blessing or a curse 😳

I guess what irks me most is senseless comedy thrown in straight after mind-blowing serious tracks. As a viewer it really puts me off. I have been watching QH on and off for a few days since the only character I could kinda relate to in the show - Zoya - has had her credibility put through the grinder recently. I would maintain that romance is a major track for the show but not the whole show and that is why other factors too need to be paid as much attention to as the romance track. That is why Rockerchic's thread struck a chord with me. Cheers.


QH is not a romcom but that's the genre that Gul does best.

With her previous show it was all about love and romance and it was good. No doubt that romance and love stories are good.

My point is from the get go QH has been about serious issues. Gul wants to move away from her comfort zone. And that's what drew me to it. If it was another rom com i wouldn't be here.

While she wants to touch up on these things i only hope she does justice.

Thanks you two for understanding where I'm coming from!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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good post...

even I couldn't understand how Zoya was so unaffected by the burial...it didn't make sense...at least Asad was shown recollecting it in his room...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#56
Good points.
The show should not tackle serious issues if they can't play it out realistically. I couldn't believe that Asad didn't insist on a doctor seeing Zoya, she was drugged and buried after all!! and Asad and Zoya coming down to breakfast/ dinner after their ordeal like normal, with no time to recover.
These shows are fictional but shouldn't be absurd, unrealistic and slap dash.
Hope this show doesn't get dragged into the shambles like Hitler Didi and Phir Subha Hogi which now have the usual time jumps, killing characters and bringing them back fiasco!
It will be such a shame for KSG who portrays Asad's restrained character excellently.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rockerchic


QH is not a romcom but that's the genre that Gul does best.

With her previous show it was all about love and romance and it was good. No doubt that romance and love stories are good.

My point is from the get go QH has been about serious issues. Gul wants to move away from her comfort zone. And that's what drew me to it. If it was another rom com i wouldn't be here.

While she wants to touch up on these things i only hope she does justice.

Thanks you two for understanding where I'm coming from!


'Qubool Hai is a Muslim Social Drama in the "Rom Com" zone.':
So, we can expect- drama, romance and comedy.

Rocker,
It is not that I don't get where you are coming from, I was just trying to show you that Gul IS ALREADY dealing with social issues in her own way.

NEVER compare QH to BV, I beg you all.

BV is the best show- even Nissar Pervez admires the director of BV-but it does not have the pull that a 4 Lions show has. The thing about QH is there is SOMETHING FOR EVERY ONE. Unfortunately, you cannot expect EVERYTHING that YOU want. Gul cannot satisfy ALL THE TYPES of audience ALL THE TIME- some want only romance and comedy, some want only romance and drama- it is a potpourri of all these genres.

Rocker,
If you watched the previous show you might get the point I am trying to make-.

Aalia,
I guess what irks me most is senseless comedy thrown in straight after mind-blowing serious tracks. As a viewer it really puts me off.

This was the same complaint many had with Gul's previous show. If you are expecting a BV kind of narration- I really hope you will not be disappointed.

For me, I enjoy QH much more than BV - because it makes me laugh. And I think to make someone laugh is the most difficult thing.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hey I do agree with u!!😊
Hope Gul wont disappoint!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: Rockerchic


Why would i get offended? 😆

Au contrary your post has proved the point I was trying to make, alarmingly so.

Every second person who tries to commit suicide has at least attempted it once before. Meaning when you attempt once you're likely to attempt again.

Let me assure you it's not as simple as realising "Oh i was wrong" If it was so India wouldn't have nearly as many suicide cases as it does.

well said.I won't say anything more about the suicide issue but want to say something about Humaira chatting with that guy on internet and going to meet him and getting almost raped..this was also an important social issue they have raised but i did not like the closure to it.. Ayan going and beating the guy and saving Humaira was good.. but it would have been best if they showed Humaira coming home and at least sharing what happened with her with Nikhath and saying something like no one should talk on the net and blindly trust the other person and go and meet the person... or even Ayan could have said that line to Humaira on a serious note after he flirted with her asking why she thought she was chatting him and all that ... this will not take much of the episode time and it would give the right message and right closure to the track

Rape can never be regarded as anything less than soul scarring. It's commonality does not reduce it's impact.

As for Zoya, well my main problem is that she seems to have gone back to square one. I never said she had to be shown weak quite the opposite to actually show Zoya grow out of it would have been more impactful. And drugged or not even if she cant remember it her body can.

@Blue - I refuse to settle for less.

If this was going to be a romantic comedy then Mrs Gul should not have bitten off more than she can chew.
Agree here again. If this is just a romantic comedy or a family drama, then don't show tracks highlighting the social issues. If they want to show them do it in a sensible way giving the right message.we are not bashing Gul and the creators... QH is really wonderful and it has all the right ingredients to make it a successful, and unique story.. And we do connect with the social issues as well and its good they are incorporating them.. but in some places the right touches and right closure doesn't happen and we are left with something missing feeling.. Qh is very good and compared to other shows its very well portrayed but we want it to be EXCELLENT..and it can happen just with the right little extra touches here and there.

Hence i believe differently.

You see i'm a fan of Gul Khan and being so I think this is more than a shallow romantic comedy.

The ability to send a social message while keeping the audience still interested with romance is what I except from Gul. 😊

Cheers.
RC


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: chicksoup


'Qubool Hai is a Muslim Social Drama in the "Rom Com" zone.':
So, we can expect- drama, romance and comedy.

Rocker,
It is not that I don't get where you are coming from, I was just trying to show you that Gul IS ALREADY dealing with social issues in her own way.

NEVER compare QH to BV, I beg you all.

BV is the best show- even Nissar Pervez admires the director of BV-but it does not have the pull that a 4 Lions show has. The thing about QH is there is SOMETHING FOR EVERY ONE. Unfortunately, you cannot expect EVERYTHING that YOU want. Gul cannot satisfy ALL THE TYPES of audience ALL THE TIME- some want only romance and comedy, some want only romance and drama- it is a potpourri of all these genres.

Rocker,
If you watched the previous show you might get the point I am trying to make-.

Aalia,
I guess what irks me most is senseless comedy thrown in straight after mind-blowing serious tracks. As a viewer it really puts me off.

This was the same complaint many had with Gul's previous show. If you are expecting a BV kind of narration- I really hope you will not be disappointed.

For me, I enjoy QH much more than BV - because it makes me laugh. And I think to make someone laugh is the most difficult thing.


Chicksoup, I'm sorry kinda new to this all... What exactly is "BV"? 😕 And regarding QH being described as a social drama in the rom-com zone... That really is one hell of a creative mish-mash. No wonder audience expectations are all over the place...

Well, I'm keeping my expectations subterranean at the moment... But I still stand by my words. Those forced comedy tracks ruin it for me. And I was glad to see that other more devoted viewers of the show shared those sentiments. Hence I posted my thoughts 😳

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