Moving on doesn't mean falling madly in love

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Just found out there is a lot of talk in the Forum about Anandi's inexpressive behavior and the way she sends confusing messages to Shiv. Apparently she claims to have moved on and yet does not show any romantic gestures towards Shiv. But does moving on necessarily mean falling madly in love?

Let's look at Anandi's situation. She has been severely abused and brutally hurt by the man who was not only her husband but was also her best friend, childhood companion, confidante and virtually the only man she has ever known. The impact of that failed relationship is massive, and it did take a toll on Anandi's Emotional Quotient. When such things happen, a part of your innocence is lost forever. She did take her time to come out of Jagya's shadow. But when she did, there was no turning back. She had locked his memories and thrown the keys away, moved on with her life and was very clear that she doesn't want him back. But does that mean she was ready for another relationship? NO.

It is at this point that she met Shiv. Perhaps things would have been different if the attraction between the two had developed naturally without the interference of external pressure. But that was not the case: she was pushed into a premature commitment by Dadisa's plans and her dying mother's wish. It was a love marriage for Shiv, but it was an arranged alliance for Anandi. It was not yet love.

Now people who have done arranged marriages will understand what I mean here. When you agree to an alliance through arranged marriage, it's unlikely you will fall in love with the man instantly. There are no fluttering of hearts, no butterflies in the stomach, no going weak on the knees, no romantic spells. What you have instead is an admiration for the man you have chosen as your life partner, respect and trust in him, attraction to some extent and an instinctive feeling that tells you you will be happy with this man. It's these emotions that turn into love gradually------and sometimes, they don't, ending in loveless unsuccessful arranged marriages.

For Shiv, Anandi is the woman he loves. But for Anandi, Shiv is a prospective arranged marriage alliance. She has chosen Shiv with her reason, not with her emotions, and it's absurd to expect Anandi will get all gooey with Shiv at this stage. The transition from reason to emotion has already began for her, but she needs more time. It doesn't happen instantly for first time couples too, let alone a woman who has been so severely scarred in the past. Just because there's a hot hunk around, ready to lay his life for you, does not mean you fall in love madly. Yes you are happy to have him as your life partner, but you don't necessarily go weak in the knees for him, not yet. What Anandi has done is exactly one should do to one's fiance---be transparent to him, share everything to avoid misunderstanding, assure that she is happy and is looking forward to her future him him, and take care of the things he likes.

Yes, there's a couple of things Anandi could have done differently. She could have kept Shiv out of the whole Jagya business and her pains of still struggling with his presence. She could have stopped acting wife to Jagya, at least in front of Shiv. However, I guess she was under the impression that it's best to keep things transparent with Shiv; and when she acted out for Jagya, she was under the impression that she had Shiv's consent, and that both were clear about it. Hence her outburst today---where she again honestly spoke out her position regarding him. SHE IS NOT YET MADLY IN LOVE WITH HIM, but she has consciously chosen him as a life partner.

The sooner Shiv understands it, the better for him. In fact when he agreed to marry Anandi even after knowing that the marriage was for her dying mother's wish, he signed for that deal. So, he has to reconcile with the fact that Anandi will take some time to reciprocate his feelings to the extent he does, or worse never fall in love with him at all. Is it unfair to him? Maybe. But then it's his choice, and it's the choice and risk hundreds of other boys take when they go home and tell their parents that they are in love with a girl and they take an arranged marriage rishta to the girl's house. The girl may agree to marriage---but falling in love madly? That may take a while. 😛


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Very very well said and put on paper . So mature And thoughtful.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Antara!!!
where have you been..!!!
Had I known you opened a similar topic I wouldn't have written what I wrote in a new topic so here is what I wrote in the other post

This is my post to those who think Anandi still did not stand up to mark in their books.


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SOme people have issues, (roll eyes) that Anandi should not have been upset with Shiv because he was 'acting' mahan when she was mahan herself all her life!???

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This is how I see this issue as to Why Anandi was hurt today and does she have the right to do so?



Anandi has been open with Shiv, as much as she could given her background and exposure.

the moment J entered.. she has been very very open about this entire situation. She has constantly been telling him and even in front of his family that she does not have any feelings for him.

Upon asking directly by Shiv, she said that she will nto look back and has moved on. She accepted his friendship.
When she was bit down , Shiv stood by her and she shared her pressures and unhappiness.

Point being she shared that with him.


Even when Jagya was ranting about Anandi letting him meet Nandu...She said that she had sent and SMS to him about it : Showing clearly she wants to be open about Jaggus arrival and everything related to him after their engagement.

Then when shiv said that I am amazed at your thinking, she was disappointed that , he had to hear about this matter from Jagya and not her. She tried to reason that is why she had sent the SMS earlier. Clearly indicating her willingness to be open about everything.

I am not going to blame shiv for taking such an emotional decision and I won't call it mahan as well. He just thought that he is letting go of her cause she is in love with jagya according to him.

What I do not understand is why is Anandi under radar every microscopic way. She was hurt..but she didn't blame Shiv. She just thanked him in the end..what more is needed/?

I mean despite of her clearly saying in words AND ACTION (her going to his house and clearing things up with his family ) the mandir scene, the chimes scene, the appoint with CM, and her saying that she gracefully accepts Shiv's friendship AND the payal which is the symbol of love, with happiness.

Shiv, took a wrong decision and well she is upset but honestly, I do not understand why there is still HOSTILE feelings about Anandi.

The truth is , Anandi is much more than what she was telling today to Shiv.
She stood on her feet LONG before Shiv made a grand entrance. She had gotten a name and identity even before shiv came. I am sure if Anandi would not have done that, shiv would not have noticed Anandi at all...

The only truth is, Shiv helped her get over her emotional turmoil. To which she is thankful and so are we.

So please GET over yourselves and stop blaming Anandi because she sneezed the wrong way. !!!

It is amazing that the people who say Anandi did not open up her mouth and were blaming her , today blame cause she actually opened her mouth and said things she was supposed to say!???
I am surprised at this biased behavior...Kahe tho mushkil chup rahe tho mushkil

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Posted: 13 years ago
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As usual excellent logical post Antara👏👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Antara👏👏👏👏👏 You are back after such a long time...and what a post to mark teh come back😳 BANG ON as usual!

Will give detailed comments later!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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It is am amazing post. Also anandi did come far with shiv by allowing few liberties like allowing him to put bangles and anklets. She also fed him which is a close act done by and for close person. As in the written update thread pointed out by khushi and others she showed her right on shiv by fighting with him only.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great post Antara...Loved every bit of it and seconded!

Here is what I replied to Suchi

Totally agree with you Suchi...Shivjee had it coming...Kudos to Ajee

But I do not agree with one line...''she thanked him in the end'' do you believe it was thanks ya kataksh 😆 ...he bhagwan aisa thanks kisi ko na mile

This serial is much more to ground level, reality and not filmy ki tujhe dekha to ye jaana sanam...😃 real life mein everyone thinks and takes time...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Absolutely agree with you Suchi. It's amazing how both of us think alike.😛 I think a lot of people who are complaining about Anandi's apparently unresponsive behavior are either new watchers of BV and hasn't really been there when Anandi went through her worst phase and hence doesn't understand why she is the way she is; or are still rosy eyed about how marriages work out !!

Not every marriage starts with a man and a woman falling madly in love with each other. There are umpteen number of marriages in which decisions are made on the basis of reason and instinct, and not just love. In fact, in my own case too, it was my husband who had first fallen in love with me and proposed marriage through family. When I agreed to him, I admired him and liked him, but to be honest, I was not madly in love with him. Then the more I saw him, and began admiring his positive qualities, the more deeply I fell in love. I was fully in love before our marriage happened, but it was a gradual process, and I am glad that he was patient. What I made sure is to let him know I was happy with him and that selecting him was my conscious choice. I think Anandi has done that too--especially in her temple talk with Shiv. Yes, initially it was a forced alliance, but that temple talk cleared it that she was now into it by her own choice and that she was happy---"main dikhati nahi hoon, par khoosh hun main".
How absurd is it to expect that she will say ILU to Shiv, or hug him, or blush in his presence or get physical with him!!!!!!

Regarding her actions hurting Shiv, I think Shiv must be a little more vocal if he feels hurt. He should quit playing the mahan atma and bare his mind if he feels affected by Anandi's sacrificial nature. I guess it's absolutely justified on Shiv's part-----not everyone can keep a straight face and serve tea to your spouse's pregnant wife; that requires a completely different element. Shiv must speak his mind out, for if he keeps consenting with Anandi and then feel hurt, it's damaging for their relationship, and also misleading for Anandi too, who operates under the impression that Shiv is okay with her actions.


Edited by woman11 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I would not blame Anandi nor I would say Shiv is at fault.

I would say both are wrong in what they did and both are right from where they stand.

She thought he understood how much his presence in her life means to her without her ever giving an indication about this and she thought he was rejecting her so that she can go back to J.

He thought he was doing this to see her happy because he loved her more than he loved himself.He did it keeping her happiness in mind and not knowing that her happiness lay with him.This happened because he didn't communicate with her.


So my perception about this incident - It is a result of miscommunication leading to a misunderstanding where neither of the are at fault.



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Posted: 13 years ago
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exactly antara... Anandi said it today that , she expected too much of him. The thing is Anandi miscalculated. She has seen this wonderful man Shiv who always did the right thing and supported her so she thought well he understands... cause he always did!

Lack of communication , and I believe from Shiv's side this time lead to this. If only shiv had shown disapproval like Choti Ma did. And would voice out that, he feels jealous or insecure (which I do not think he has) or that he is not sure about Anandis feelings for Jagya completely. talked more on that topic, this situation would not have arisen.

That topic was not discussed much between them ( just the temple scene, where he had asked her directly)

If only Shiv would have talked again to Anandi about what Jagya said as Anandi has shared her feelings...Then this would not have arrived.

Shiv, I think, his male ego came in between. He had once said to Anandi that, its the time now , if you want to move back then you are free.. and she didn't, so his ego ( I dare say) was not agreeing to ask her again to clear his doubts.

I think this is what the voice over said too. And the situation rightly portrayed so... that when the male ego meets with a woman's self respect there are sparks that are bound to rise.



BUt all in all it was good. Choti Ma is now ok : ) I am glad Anandi said what she said :)

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