DOTW - SRGMP Contests: Who should judge? - Page 11

Originally posted by: juggyE

Rahul bhai,

Looks like both of us posted at the same time. As long as its not someone as ridiculous as our first "choice" - Daler paaji - I HAVE in the past and still will take any celebrity as a judge. The others that you've mentioned here did make ridiculous statements but let me assure you, almost all of these celebrities have appeared as a judge in the previous schedules and nowhere did they act like what we saw in C2005 (yep, even HR😆)...

aab judges bhi public decide keregii 😕...😆

yaar yaha per hum baat ker rahein public yaa phir judges will decide contestents aab public bhi judges decide kernae lag padi tu phir to

"ho jaayegii balae baalae " 😆 😆( dilaer mehandi style 😉)

body language..wasnt it prasoon joshi..i think he had problem with himani?pandit jasraj found nothing wrong with nihira's body languge...

Originally posted by: gauri_2

Bumped...why is no one thinking in the angle proposed below😕 Most of the people agree that public usually votes for qualities other than singing....then let's just give the public those choices and let them vote on them while judges decide the winners. Sab ki khushi hai iss mein....per yahan to koi dhyaan hee nahi dey raha iss per😭😭😭

Charades/chatbuster/dolly..bataao kya khayal hai iss odea key baarey mein😊

gauri_2

tumhari baat per chalo gaur kerti ho 😆

nice to meet you .shayad we have not met before 😊

Originally posted by: dolly

aab judges bhi public decide keregii 😕...😆

yaar yaha per hum baat ker rahein public yaa phir judges will decide contestents aab public bhi judges decide kernae lag padi tu phir to

"ho jaayegii balae baalae " 😆 😆( dilaer mehandi style 😉)

yaar, ab judges aasman se tapak kar aane wale toh hai naheen. batao- tapak kar ayenge? naheen na? public nahee toh Gajji, Gajji nahee toh Zee, kisi na kisi ko toh appoint karna hee hoga. phir? ab koi appoint karne wala pasand nahee aye, toh phir mei appoint karta hoon. yeh shayad theek rahega. kyoon?😉

Originally posted by: sonal_07

agree with dolly on reality show point.First lets see what is reality show any way.On reality shows you place ordinery people on a extraordinery set!!.A person who is nothing becomes famous just like anything.The only difference is in india and western reality shows ., which our producers copy them.they are more materalistic and we are more emotional.When we look at these contestents we see ourselves.Its almost like watching a movie where you see a hero who is poor and in 3 hours can have beautiful rich wife 😆.something like that happens in these shows.Atleast we like to see it that way.meaning instead of voting for candidate based on his/her talents for which the show is based on we look for other facters ..which donot have anything to do with music.Then whats the point of conducting the show if in the end you are not getting "the best" 😕

haha... whatever gives one the idea that judges do any better a job at picking "the best"? and what is the definition of "the best"? someone u find "the best"? someone i find "the best"? someone that some good pandit who is locked up in some room for umpteen years and has a narrow appeal finds "the best"? chalo, let's pick one of those tin-pot dictators. they certainly think they know what is "the best" for everyone.😉

btw, loved ur "hero who is poor and in 3 hours can have beautiful rich wife" line. waise, what is the gripe here? that poor heroines dont get handsome rich guys in 3 hours? i think grass is always greener on the other side 😆 😆

What do we get eventually of a Talent Hunt show? Is it just the winner? As Ankita pointed out earlier Sanjeevani was never a winner. Karunya, not a winner, but getting more opportunities than Sandeep...

The objective of Talent Hunt show is to get a platform to a talented singer where he can start off from with brighter chances to make it big. And so I will again say that what we get from a show like this is not just the winner. What is the point of getting the best singer as the winner who just is lost in anonimity because the platform was not visible enough for him/her to break through? This has happened in the past - its only after the public voting came into picture that all recognize these singers lot more and hence helps them to start off with an advantage. So, the show that promotes talent to make it big is indeed the talent hunt show.

Audience participation is core to give these singers that platform. As for the sponsorships - well the sponsors will also go for something that is more successful, not just in terms of money they get in return but also in terms of giving better known singers to the industry. Last 10 yrs of SRGM(P) was a different story as there was not any other show of the type. But today when there is an II and a FG, the sponsors, the organisers and most importantly the singers will definitely get attracted to that format whole lot more.

Bottomline - result of a talent hunt show is just not the winner. The result is getting us talented singers, winner or not - who have a better chance to make it big... Have judges to identify the talent in a more systematic and musical approach; have audience to promote the singers and have them start with a better visibility. And most importantly - winning the talent show is not end of the struggle. As Nihira said - 'this is just the beginning of a new struggle'. Atleast equip them with some recognition when they start off this new struggle!

Originally posted by: charades

Well said Rahul...But you cannot have cake and eat it too ...

I still would probably depend more on that someone who is locked up in some room for umpteen years and has a narrow appeal as that someone is whom you call today a Legend and a well respected one.....

Same happens even in real world...

If you have good score on credit history file you will get better percentage on loans...

The one with bad score even though gets the loan, have to pay the price for not improving their Credit score...

Now u tell me among public and judges who's score is high according to your agency😉 ......

FYI

I have scores of all the 3 major agencies 😆😆

yaar, there we go again- using objective quantitative score type methodologies to judge music. btw, do u really need someone who has the qualifications of a miss world (and who has spent umpteen years grooming herself) to judge beauty? yes? no? dont know about u, but i sure can tell who i find beautiful. dont need mommy or some aishwarya rai to tell me what works for me. nor some fancy marksheet where we have tallied scores for nose, eyes, throat etc. down to the 5th decimal place 😉 J/K

aside from that, we keep conveniently glossing over other points-

1. who appoints those judges? in the course of these discussions, they seem to magically appear like manna from heaven. makes me feel i am watching some epic where we have folks with all the wonderful traits we so desire.

2. whose definition of "best" do we want to work with?

3. dont we have so many judges who have appeared on the show, most of whom have proven to be disasters from time to time? what do u think their "hit-ratio" is? better than the public?

4. it is a fallacy to think that the public erred in the case of c2005 and emaet. nihira and hema might be the only examples, but here also i can argue why they were not the best choice, but that wld invite massive wrath. point is- if public did fairly well in those challenges, why the gripe against having public votes.

5. the kind of judges we seem to want are no different from the professors in college- they can judge people on technical merits which often have very little to do with complete personality, the kind which gives rise to soulful/ appealing music.

6. to judge music one needs to have the ability to appreciate music, not necessarily be trained in those areas. in fact, the best judges are at times very removed from the field. they do not carry any baggage of sur, taal and all the mumbo-jumbo narrow tunnel-vision syndrome. and ability to appreciate music is an innate trait we all possess for the most part. dont need no big-time judge for that.

more to follow if needed...😉

Originally posted by: chatbuster

yaar, ab judges aasman se tapak kar aane wale toh hai naheen. batao- tapak kar ayenge? naheen na? public nahee toh Gajji, Gajji nahee toh Zee, kisi na kisi ko toh appoint karna hee hoga. phir? ab koi appoint karne wala pasand nahee aye, toh phir mei appoint karta hoon. yeh shayad theek rahega. kyoon?😉

rahul yaar...judges abhi bhi appoint ho rahein hein...wasae ager judges tum appoint kerogein tu baaki ka tu pata nahi lekin mereko koi problem nahi...bilkul sahi rahega 😉