Shyam and his so called Lust factor - Edited*

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I don't know after seeing yesterdays episode where Shyam babuwa was playing all cupid cupid for Arhi, I somehow have a strong desire to write something about him. I have watched most of the episodes of IPKKND (but let me confess I have skipped scenes of Shyams monologue, Shyam-Babuji conversations, couple of Gee-Gee moments and khushi-Shyam hug 😳).

I have come across numerous analysis, OS, FF, SS where Shyam is all about Lust. Is it so? I could not pin point a scene in IPKKND where Shyam was lusting after khushi. (If anyone is feeling otherwise, please let me know the scene.).Let me pen down my own reasons..

Lust means having a string sexual desire towards someone. I have never felt the motive of Shyams loitering outside his marriage is lust. I have not felt he is lusting after khushi. I feel that he is strongly attracted towards khushi from the first sight for some unknown reason (the same way arnav fell for her. please don't hate me for this comparison. I could not stop mentioning it 😳). The thing called love at first sight, is it just because of lust? Some strong pull towards a person, may not always because of lust.

All the while he was staying in Gupta House, Was there any display of so called lust towards khushi? No. He was smitten by her, by her innocence, by her sweetness and by her craziness. But nevertheless he was a gentleman in front of her (as far as I can recall). He is just a psychopath who wanted to make her his own no matter what. 'Making her his' does not mean physical relation only. If he wants physical relation only he does not have to take the risk of marrying her. He wants khushi's love. Lust can be a motive for this obsession, but not the only one. And there was no indication from CVs side that Shyam villain-ism is riding on lust factor.

While we were expecting a Arhi confession of love, what did we get? Shyam Confession. what an irony! Alas whatever he said in that confession is true. He thinks he is in love with her and Shyams insane mind just imagine khushi is reciprocating his love. I would say his attraction should be better describes as a lewd and psychotic one but not something with lust.

Now after marriage, his first interaction with khushi is "How can you do this to me and my love?". What the! He himself is married and whats the logic behind saying those lines to khushi. Those words are from an insane mind where everything is good and rosy between khushi and him. Worldly logic does not apply in his imaginary world. As per him khushi is upset with him because he is married to Rani sahiba. He never sees anything bad in the current situation. In his eyes, whatever sin he does is to make khushi only his and is fair in his eyes. All is fair in love and war. But is there any indication of only lust here? beats me!

In the Shyam-Khushi car conversation, It was evident that he is worried that arnav will do something to hurt khushi. He was all boasting 'if Arnav does something bad, tell me', i will deal with it. Imagine any of khushi's friends(who knows all the behind the scene story) saying the same lines to khushi!. It will just be interpreted as a genuine concern and protectiveness towards khushi. But Since it is coming from the villain, the entire sentence is meaningless and evil. Shyam is the only person in the world other than arhi who understands ASRs current hatred towards Khushi.Hmm. Here also I don't see any lust. Just a vain attempt to touch her mind.

Holi color fiasco..I read couple of posts describing Shyams touch as lustful. Is it really so? It was a ploy to mark her, mark her as his own by painting red. Shows the same obsession and possessiveness he displayed since beginning towards khushi, not lust. His attraction towards khushi bear all the strong traits of extreme obsession. Just because he stands at the wrong side of morality, We are not calling it love.

I am not sure if i have posted it somewhere... But I see that in someways, Arnav's and Shyam are just the opposite sides of the coin or may be better describes as the yin yang. both having strong, powerfull and yet equal feeling towards khushi. One riding on the path of protection and other one on the path of destruction. And all started at first sight.
On a lighter note, our Arnavji is smitten by lust most of the time than Shyam. 😳. think...think...😉

Edit:-
Shyam mentioned that when he is with anjali he thinks of khushi. Is it lust? I feel it is a morally wrong behavior, a lewd one. Not lust. He sees khushi may be because of the attraction and obsession he felt towards her, may be not because of the physical attraction.

One point to add, there was lot of times when ASR was with la (either hugging her or holding her close) and then thinking about khushi all the while. Isn't it the scenario same as Shyam? When Shyam does it, it was Eek moment and when ASR does it, it is Rabba ve..Lol. It is all about Perception baby.. Perception changes everything. 😆.

Both ASR and Shyam were in a relation ship when they met khushi and fell in love. La and Anjali. ASR took the decision to break up with la but Shyam decided to continue. It is the choices that makes you the villain.

From the beginning of IPKKND, it is shown that, Shyams obsession for khushi is eclipsing his Goodness, slowly and steadily, just the way, khushi's obsession is slowing bringing out ASRs Goodness from eclipse. May be, once the eclipse is over, when he get over with khushi's obsession, Shyam's goodness will start shining. May be CVs will give him a path of redemption in future. Nice Characterization by CVs though.

Ok.. I know i have done the unthinkable by siding a little with the Villain. Don't roast me for this blasphemy. Would love here someone bash me logically. Note: I don't condone any of Shyams actions, just the way I don't condone ASRs actions.

Again Edited :
In case if you want to read on a perfect reply to this post, Here is a post which made me shut up completely and threw me out of the game, just like the ASR way. thanks to ipkkndfan_29 😉


One more...Thanks to Angels11

Again one more ..Thanks to stafhtad

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well, I feel the same too dear.. Agrees that Snake-wa (😡) is a freaking psychopath, but never I have found glimpses of him lusting after Khushi 😃... Yes he is obsessed about her.. to the point where he is ready to throw away everything else 😆.. but I seriously dont think it is lust 😃 either
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Originally posted by: SereneLady

Well, I feel the same too dear.. Agrees that Snake-wa (😡) is a freaking psychopath, but never I have found glimpses of him lusting after Khushi 😃... Yes he is obsessed about her.. to the point where he is ready to throw away everything else 😆.. but I seriously dont think it is lust 😃 either


thank god...At least one comment.
After posting this, I could not see a single comment on it for so long. I was wondering whether I have earned the unconditional enemity of forum by posting this. thank god...

At least one agree comment. I am happy
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Trying not to agree with you but such a wonderful analysis of Shyam (most posts on Shyam start with a "yuck" or call him a " snake")

My opinion is that Shyam does lust after kushi, even though lot of screen space has not been dedicated in depicting that. The fact that he is married with a wonderful wife ( that he is also intimate with) and yet goes through great lengths to lie,cheat and plot murders just for Kushis's love seems a little hard to believe.If he truly loved kushi would he be intimate with his wife ,maybe not. Even worse is the fact that he now pursues Kushi inspite of her getting married. Obviously all this points to Shyam not having very high moral standards and being definitely lustful .

Hope I could convince you!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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not many bt i cn giv u one instance...wen he was peeping thru gupta house window wyl khushi was practicing 4 her sangeet ceremony...dat luk i tel u was full of lust...😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: arnavluv

not many bt i cn giv u one instance...wen he was peeping thru gupta house window wyl khushi was practicing 4 her sangeet ceremony...dat luk i tel u was full of lust...😡



Yes and when he told Khushi on the terrace that he thinks about Khushi day & night even when he is wid Anjali😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yes ,it looks that way . He has that protective feelings towards her since he saved her from those goons.He genuinely her helped from the miseries due to ASR.,heiped her get the job. Alas he couldn't curb his feelings for her. like pschycotic fool he feels they vl be reciprocated. now he is ready to leave his Rani Sahiba also. He has taken his obsession to a dangerous level. if was not married he wud have been successful in his attempts to marry her? What to do its Devi Mayya''s wish to cheer up the gloomy ASR ,tying him to Sanka Devi!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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amazing analysis... and yes I agree with you in totality...
He has never been shown to stare lewdly at Khushi... his actions just spell smitten ... and yeah, I do not find his stare and lovelorn glances at Khushi any different from ASR's... LOL🤡'
To the topic maker' Tum khud to pitogi mujhe bhi petwaogi...' Ducks on seeing an aiva stiletto that comes flying with full force.
Hey peeps... blame this sree07... I am only agreeing to her not daring to make such claim😳
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Originally posted by: Operaqueen

Trying not to agree with you but such a wonderful analysis of Shyam (most posts on Shyam start with a "yuck" or call him a " snake")


My opinion is that Shyam does lust after kushi, even though lot of screen space has not been dedicated in depicting that. The fact that he is married with a wonderful wife ( that he is also intimate with) and yet goes through great lengths to lie,cheat and plot murders just for Kushis's love seems a little hard to believe.If he truly loved kushi would he be intimate with his wife ,maybe not. Even worse is the fact that he now pursues Kushi inspite of her getting married. Obviously all this points to Shyam not having very high moral standards and being definitely lustful .

Hope I could convince you!



hmmm Since the beginning Shyam was a combination of a lil good and lot of bad. He manages situations well. He keeps the raizadas happy and do not have any intention of breaking that happy puppy husband image in front of Raizadas. It is intriguing sometimes agree. Shyam was also very very supportive of Gupta parivaar in his deceptive days. Agree it may be deception but if you see his interaction with khushi, there is a tinge of truthfulness in it and a tinge of friendship. He wanted to support her, help her and be her love. Check out the initial conversations of Shyam and khushi.

Now, being married and being in love is entirely different. Being married to a lovey-dovey wife does not mean that he is in love. He himself has claimed he married Anjali for money. Isn't it? He was well aware of it and was carrying on with his compromise life until he found her, khushi. There he fell in his love grrr sorry he fell in obsession. Isn't it a valid scenario?

Lets check ASR's past. He was intimate with lavanya, in every sense I guess. Live in does not leave room for doubt 😳. He accepted la for his convenience as he was of his class and was all happy in his compromised life until he met her, khushi. Isn't it the scenario same? Just that there was no bond called marriage.

So both of them had the same scenario and same choices. It is choices that makes you good and evil. ASR decided to fight his feelings initially. Shyam did not. ASR played the hard cookie to crack role and Shyam played the melted butter role. Then ASR lost the battle with his own feelings and broke up with la. Shyam decided to pursue the path of wrongs and deception to woo his love. Shyam wanted to keep both the options to himself. took a wrong road and he is the villain. :). To keep up his compromise life, intimate to hona padtha hai!!!! :)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yeah! Shyam is one freakin obsessive psychopath who was initially attracted to her at first sight and now cannot accept it that she can never be his.
I think his character is actually the most complex one in the show. Till what I have seen from now, he married Anjali for convenience without actually loving her. So when he saw Khushi, he felt like it was love (from his POV) and now he can't stop obsessing about her. I mean that is what you do right, when u feel ur in love with someone.

and now he is hellbent on destroying anything that comes in their path. Now that is serious obsessiveness.

But there is a slight hint of lust too. But it is too vague. Maybe the CV's didn't give much importance to it.

Nice post!⭐️

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